I said I've given up roulette for good, and I think i have? Just wasting my time here... ;D
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Place 6 streets: 7/9, 10/12, 13/15 & 22/24, 25/27, 28/30.
Flatbet until 2 hits in a row, then immediately change the streets to: 1/3, 3/4 & 16/18, 19/21 & 31/33, 34/36. (doublestreets could be used here also)
Flatbet until 2 hits in a row, then immediately change the bets back to: 7/9, 10/12, 13/15 & 22/24, 25/27, 28/30.
Keep doing this,...2 hits in a row, then change positions... Progression could be used, but it seemed to work flatbetting.
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As I said: I've given up roulette... I'd be suprised if this system would work (since all my systems have failed so far)...whatever,
cheers
A better way to play this (flatbet) is: after two hits, keep the same bet until fist loss, then change bets... Because many times 4-5 hits in a row happen.
I'm always excited when inventing a new system, now i've flatbetted myself upto +5000 (with 50 unit chips). HA! .... RNG-Funmode^^
Like i said i'm wasting my time here.... (and i'm pretty sure it will fail in other tests)....... Roulette is ......a hopeless game.
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=xTto31E6UVk (link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=xTto31E6UVk)
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 06, 07:30 PM 2013
I said I've given up roulette for good, and I think i have? Just wasting my time here... ;D
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Place 6 streets: 7/9, 10/12, 13/15 & 22/24, 25/27, 28/30.
Flatbet until 2 hits in a row, then immediately change the streets to: 1/3, 3/4 & 16/18, 19/21 & 31/33, 34/36. (doublestreets could be used here also)
Flatbet until 2 hits in a row, then immediately change the bets back to: 7/9, 10/12, 13/15 & 22/24, 25/27, 28/30.
Keep doing this,...2 hits in a row, then change positions... Progression could be used, but it seemed to work flatbetting.
==================================================================================
As I said: I've given up roulette... I'd be suprised if this system would work (since all my systems have failed so far)...whatever,
cheers
I said I've given up roulette for good, and
I think i have? Just wasting my time here.-Ignatus
Never give up. (Maybe a small occasional break.) :thumbsup:
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 06, 10:05 PM 2013
I said I've given up roulette for good, and
I think i have? Just wasting my time here.-Ignatus
Never give up. (Maybe a small occasional break.) :thumbsup:
If there was some sort of hope, perhaps I wouldn't. Now, nothing works. All I do is lose money. All my systems have failed. Tell me WHO is making money playing roulette? ...
why do u have to lose money if u can have RX and play virtually with no money?
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 06, 10:22 PM 2013
If there was some sort of hope, perhaps I wouldn't. Now, nothing works. All I do is lose money. All my systems have failed. Tell me WHO is making money playing roulette? ...
I know couple players which do constantly...but do you know how ???---With money,lot of money.
Quote from: iggiv on Apr 06, 11:55 PM 2013
why do You have to lose money if You can have RX and play virtually with no money?
I won't pay 300$ for that f*king software!:/
You can play in fun mode, if you lose, you refill it free. If you win, just copy and paste the balance to the real money account.
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 07, 03:44 AM 2013
I won't pay 300$ for that f*king software!:/
Rx is about $25. There you go again dismissing advise from people like iggiv who knows his s*it.
In real life...i am up a bit...maybe even. On rx I am probably down $5000. Thats what that f*cking software saved me. Its not your systems its you. You dont take advice.
But we keep trying dear ignatus....we keep trying!
Quote from: Turner on Apr 07, 05:25 AM 2013
Rx is about $25. There you go again dismissing advise from people like iggiv who knows his s*it.
In real life...i am up a bit...maybe even. On rx I am probably down $5000. that's what that f*cking software saved me. Its not your systems its you. You don't take advice.
But we keep trying dear ignatus....we keep trying!
hahaha i like this one ... owned!
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 07, 03:44 AM 2013
I won't pay 300$ for that f*king software!:/
So how much have you spent on weed in the last 12 months?
there you go.....how much have you lost on roulette? more than $29?
RX is an absolute, no brainer, excellent addition to anyone who wants to take roulette seriously.
You can't learn to win with real money.....FACT
You answered your own question, by the way, on why you lose
You guessed RX was $300. You didn't even type "Roulette Xtreme" in Google.
WHATEVER Turner, you are always such a wiseass. Roulette Xtreme won't help you. Since Roulette is a impossible game to win... Those who claim winning are just liars.. every system will fail in the end. I said I've given up Roulette. Still you try to put me down? That is your sadistic satisfaction...Good for you.
People who are successful in life are the ones who never give up or see failures as learnings...just saying :)
Quote from: ander on Apr 07, 06:21 AM 2013
People who are successful in life are the ones who never give up or see failures as learnings...just saying :)
Those who are "successful in life" would never play roulette in the first place! HA HA...xD
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 07, 06:25 AM 2013
Those who are "successful in life" would never play roulette in the first place! HA HA...xD
Andy Revell just called and said that wasn't true :D
This thread is getting out of line. But i didn't expect another turnout. Only what is needed now, someone can prove to me this system won't work, and the circle is complete.
Quote from: Skakus on Apr 07, 05:53 AM 2013
So how much have you spent on weed in the last 12 months?
Less than I needed. ;)
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 07, 06:18 AM 2013
WHATEVER Turner, you are always such a wiseass. Roulette Xtreme won't help you. Since Roulette is a impossible game to win... Those who claim winning are just liars.. every system will fail in the end. I said I've given up Roulette. Still you try to put me down? That is your sadistic satisfaction...Good for you.
Theres no satisfaction in seeing someone fail, especially when you can see its because they dont listen
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Quote from: ignatus on Apr 07, 06:18 AM 2013
WHATEVER Turner, you are always such a wiseass. Roulette Xtreme won't help you. Since Roulette is a impossible game to win... Those who claim winning are just liars.. every system will fail in the end. I said I've given up Roulette. Still you try to put me down? That is your sadistic satisfaction...Good for you.
BRAVO!
In RX of course :thumbsup:
Hey Ignatus I do fair (had a great Christmas run +$375).
In my opinion you track too many numbers. Check out the law of the
third: one dozen will hit twice, one dozen will hit once, one dozen won't hit.
Once you can identify which dozen is hot focus on the repeaters in that dozen.
OK...The circle is now complete. There is nothing more to say. But then I won't play for real, never ever, (Lost enough already) I've given up roulette for good.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 07, 08:13 AM 2013
Hey Ignatus I do fair (had a great Christmas run +$375).
In my opinion you track too many numbers. Check out the law of the
third: one dozen will hit twice, one dozen will hit once, one dozen won't hit.
Once you can identify which dozen is hot focus on the repeaters in that dozen.
That's great proof :) Ok
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 07, 08:30 AM 2013
OK... well Turner I don't know how you play it. Just to prove your wrong, I played now for 5minutes on paddypower, ended up +210 units. Flatbetting. Yesterday as I said I was +5000 units with 50 units chips, also flatbetting.
Place the chips as I said (in the picture), wait for 2 hits in a row.. then let it ride until first loss, then change the positions (to those streets not bet) ....then Repeat: wait for 2 hits in a row, keep same bet until first loss, then change bet.....
Ignatus....I will try for the last time, then I won't bother you again...but I don't know why because it falls on deaf ears.
If I am about to say something stu.pid, there are many better experts than me in this forum who can tell me I am wrong
In fact, I invite them to tell me I am wrong.
Here goes:
don't get so upset when someone who knows a bit warns you of the pitfalls of your idea.
Of course you will win but its plain to see that picking numbers to bet on without considering what has COME and what has NOT COME is rediculous.
Imagine someone tells you to put your hand in a bag full of white balls and one red ball. £10 to have a dip and if you pull out "the red ball" you win £40. Would you just give the £10 and dip in? I think you would. I would ask how many balls were in the bag first.
You can't just go dipping into a game without considering the structure of the game
Selecting loads of numbers (you bet 18 here) is a fo.ols game.
that's what all the i.diots are doing in the casino who pile chips everywhere. I hear them ask each other how they are doing.
They say things like..."badly this week...I'm 6K down. Was 15k up last week.
Of course they are.
They are poking fun in the face of the house edge. The house edge gets mad and punishes them.
You arnt considering how to improve your bet selection.
This is the key (for me anyhow)
Hot numbers/cold numbers
reasonable bet selection (4-6 numbers, perhaps a few more)
don't play the same pattern for long (3 or 4 spins)
don't PLAY RNG!!!!!
Straight up numbers (my preference)
Flat bet (my preference)
don't play just one more time (it will win this time, I'm certain) Stick to the plan.
If you plan 3 times and change....don't play 4. You have left the head and entered the heart.
I know these facts are the way forward but I don't have a system yet. I'm trying...and that's what I am testing all the time (on RX, with real numbers)
I'm trying to pass on what I have learned here in 2 years. I learned by listening and taking notice of the fact I know less than others.
Turner
Just a little toot on my horn:
The house edge is like a moskeeto in a swamp *ull o* alligators. You can't tell the gators apart because they are all the same and are named "dispersion".
Slow down or eliminate dispersion and see what you have.
Also, I'm not convinced BV is rigged. Maybe some day I will be; not yet!
Sam
Thanks Turner, you're right. I had the greatest success with "Juggler" That was hotnumbers... But somehow i didn't continute with that, I went in the wrong direction "Juggler 2" etc...I remember flatbetting 4 hotnumbers with Juggler and the chart went straight up...
I didn't have time to test Juggler enough, perhaps my "best" project so far... but I lost patience when I got a neutral trend for 200 spins...(playing live)...anyway, now im not sure I have the time/patience with roulette at all.
But never say die... Now im trying to learn how to trade Binary Options... (that is one hell of gambling too!) ;)
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 07, 09:59 AM 2013
Thanks Turner, you're right. I had the greatest success with "Juggler" That was hotnumbers... But somehow i didn't continute with that, I went in the wrong direction "Juggler 2" etc...I remember flatbetting 4 hotnumbers with Juggler and the chart went straight up...
I didn't have time to test Juggler enough, perhaps my "best" project so far... but I lost patience when I got a neutral trend for 200 spins...(playing live)...anyway, now I'm not sure I have the time/patience with roulette at all.
But never say die... Now I'm trying to learn how to trade Binary Options... (that is one hell of gambling too!) ;)
You had a lot of interest with the juggler posts, and praise from respected members. I would of considered I was on a better track from that.
I believe I went in a better direction with some of my ideas. They wernt right, just in a better direction. I gagued that because of the interest taken by some respected members.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks Turner. It's nice you being nice sometimes too^^
Erkin Koray - Cemalim (1974, High Quality) (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=U0gjwpMb-k8#)
lol...Im always nice. Im just more nice some days and less others :thumbsup:
Those who claim winning are just liars..
--You shouldn't call ppl liars..you should instead ask and maybe you become a winner one day.
Your problem my friend is that you see only your ideas...what about others????have you ever
tried any of thousands on this forum....you see....with my 100 /lol/years of experience I have
study every one if there is any potential there.And yes I'm a long term winner/I could prove it with
things but why ????.........therefore don't give up,you should get there and most important don't call anybody a lier......my 2 becoins
Have you ever heard about a "professional rouletteplayer"? I don't think they exist. Professional pokerplayers exist. Not "professional rouletteplayers".... go to wizard of odds and collect your money if you are long term winner? None has claimed that money yet? Because roulette is an impossible game to win long term.
But then i have blue-eyes (that's an expression) I can believe in any thing...
Turner's advice of hotnumbers is the best one so far, when it comes to roulette Agreed. (Sometimes you lose, sometimes you win...)
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 07, 02:03 PM 2013
Turner's advice of hotnumbers is the best one so far, when it comes to roulette Agreed. (Sometimes you lose, sometimes you win...)
Cold numbers also ......and variety!
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 07, 02:03 PM 2013
Have you ever heard about a "professional rouletteplayer"? I don't think they exist. Professional pokerplayers exist. Not "professional rouletteplayers".... go to wizard of odds and collect your money if you are long term winner? None has claimed that money yet? Because roulette is an impossible game to win long term.
But then i have blue-eyes (that's an expression) I can believe in any thing...
Turner's advice of hotnumbers is the best one so far, when it comes to roulette Agreed. (Sometimes you lose, sometimes you win...)
My dear Ignatus,
I like you as a matter of fact/even protected you when all here were attacking you./
Here am sending you attachement/real 5000 DB spins somebodys post here/where am working on a new project.....you can continue testing it my way,and I could bet you any money it will come as a winner after
5000 spins...Turners repeaters you said.......it was tried trillions times in the past and always hit the wall...cycle betting,LB,patience are only way to get there.Suggest you to do above.
There is a little error on spin 273...should be 12x2....but it actually wouldn't change nothing at the end....
you see, That you will find as a winning bet........no RNG OR ANY STUPID RX EXPERIMENTS....that's only
for these that are playing virtually....somethimg like playtech kids.Giving you this as like your persistence and believe you could become a real player......as you may notice didn't offer this to others,even thought they will see it......but what's the use...hope you got what I mean.
OK, Thanks ;) Well there are more blue-eyed people here!! I'm not the only one! ;D
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 07, 02:48 PM 2013
OK, Thanks ;) Well there are more blue-eyed people here!! I'm not the only one! ;D
Tomorrow will send you you corrected attachment from spin 273,as now must be going to casino.
Ignatus, your assumptions are very wrong. And what Wizard of Odds said-- u did not get either.
you are one of many of those brave confused roulette warriors which march to the land of nowhere
and step on the same rack over and over again. I used to be just like this some time ago...
But i am not gonna dwell on this, sorry. Or brag about anything.
All i can advice u -- just try to think independently, sit down, turn on your logic...And stop inventing methods which are supposed to win hundreds or thousands spins in a row. That's basically what Wizard of Odds says. Not literally but this is a main idea.
Aslo some book reading would help u. I already told about this in the forum.
Here's an idea for you Ignatus. Write down
(in notepad or wherever) your interpretations of other people's systems.
(The way you understand how it is to be played.)
That in itself is a new system.
That music video WTF is that about?I use the term 'music'(please forgive me)
OMG that was hard on the ears,and eyes ???
here we go again...
link:://youtu.be/t1bDniBj-C8 (link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=t1bDniBj-C8)
hehe..
Ignatus,
Now am very disappointed with you...you know why????
Sent you attachment yesterday to do some study and work/if you wish/
and can see that you did nothing about....again how I know it ????
Simply because I PURPOSELY did some errors just to find out the truth.
Not only you but over 50 downloads of that attachment and nobody didn't
notice very easily spotted errors there.......Sad and tells me something that am
aware for long now of such happenings,that most of you are only virtual players.
Here is corrected attachment so you can compare it.
Therefore won't waste my time any longer.
If 2CS sees this am sure he will make advantage of it.
"If 2CS sees this am sure he will make advantage of it."
Is that me?
teo
I simply no longer hand-test cold numbers. I might play the system *or real with dimes, but cold numbers leave me cold.
The reason I don't test a lot anymore is because when someone posts a system, everyone *eels the need to "tweak" it and within two pages, it's a totally di**erent system!! In my opinion, *inished systems should be just that--*inished! Anyone who "tweaks" should start his own thread.
So, teo, i* I knew "your" rules, I'd test this.
Sam
teo
I've looked at your sheet. The rules are simple except the "poss. *or triple parlay"
Does that mean you could have but didn't?
Also, how do you decide which street to bet on the *irst time?
Sam
teo, why you put such great hopes in me? I said I've failed with every system i invented so far, and i've given up roulette?
teo
I have looked over the last sheet you posted. I* you are betting *or a street to repeat, your sheet is *ull o* errors.
ignatus,
Do you understand what teo is doing? I* so, explain, please.
Sam
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 08, 09:25 AM 2013
teo, why you put such great hopes in me? I said I've failed with every system i invented so far, and i've given up roulette?
What's interesting is that you won't give up roulette is like your maryjane :LoL: ps how are you VIPER.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 08, 09:12 AM 2013
"If 2CS sees this am sure he will make advantage of it."
Is that me?
teo
I simply no longer hand-test cold numbers. I might play the system *or real with dimes, but cold numbers leave me cold.
The reason I don't test a lot anymore is because when someone posts a system, everyone *eels the need to "tweak" it and within two pages, it's a totally di**erent system!! In my opinion, *inished systems should be just that--*inished! Anyone who "tweaks" should start his own thread.
So, teo, i* I knew "your" rules, I'd test this.
Sam
Sam old boy,
street repeaters in cycle of 12 spins.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 08, 09:17 AM 2013
teo
I've looked at your sheet. The rules are simple except the "poss. *or triple parlay"
Does that mean you could have but didn't?
Also, how do you decide which street to bet on the *irst time?
Sam
Just the idea that could also worh on triple repeat.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 08, 09:17 AM 2013
teo
I've looked at your sheet. The rules are simple except the "poss. *or triple parlay"
Does that mean you could have but didn't?
Also, how do you decide which street to bet on the *irst time?
Sam
triple parlay only signing down.........after first bet of all 12 streets,all winn of 11 +1=12 bet on previous
won street.so previous spin 0- and next after win is virtual search for next bet...therefore 0- w 0-
think this is much more secure and more and faster profit then recently done Lv F..
--YES THERE IS TYPO ERROR IN LAST CYCLE OF 12...SHOULD BE LOSS OF 36 INSTEAD OF 24 PER EACH SPIN
.......Tired of last night play until 6 this morning.Recorrected last cycle
BTW Sam,
there are only one triple possibility so far...spins158.59,60.....while 34,35,36------98,99,100---133,134,135.are all wrongly signed on purpose....Iknew you would spot it.....others more then 50
of them didn't......tells me everything.
why is 0- in row 20 and 24? no win before... :question:
Quote from: RFMAXX on Apr 08, 01:42 PM 2013
why is 0- in row 20 and 24? no win before... :question:
26 won,then 11+1=12 bet on 25,same street...therefore 0-on 26...and 0- after 25,as it is virtual searcher for
next bet.And if that virtual searcher happenned to be same next bet it would be a win of 132 un.or loss of 12.
That someone wouldn't be too confused here are real correct tests for those interested.
Me,am testing it with real money each night...just going now there.
My appology to some for this mess but had to verify something that bothers me for so long now.
thank you for that but i still dont get it.
26 comes after 36. so it is not a winner, because 26 is not in the 12th street.
same with number 1 after 6 in row 25.
do you play double streets?
Quote from: teo on Apr 08, 03:25 PM 2013
My appology to some for this mess but had to verify something that bothers me for so long now.
Still up to your old tricks eh, Teo. :)
oh no its not VIPER again
is it ???
Quote from: RFMAXX on Apr 08, 03:47 PM 2013
thank you for that but i still don't get it.
26 comes after 36. so it is not a winner, because 26 is not in the 12th street.
same with number 1 after 6 in row 25.
do you play double streets?
MAXX
You won't get it!! Well, maybe you will. I* you do, please enlighten the rest o* us!
Samster
Bet 1 unit on each single street. Whichever street wins, use the winnings and bet for a repeat of that street.
Hope that's right?
Quote from: Badger on Apr 08, 06:13 PM 2013
Bet 1 unit on each single street. Whichever street wins, use the winnings and bet for a repeat of that street.
Hope that's right?
Badger, there are no winnings. It cost you 12U to win 12U
Figure out the best bet selection and the best progression and you got your grail.
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 08, 06:53 PM 2013
Figure out the best bet selection and the best progression and you got your grail.
Why the H didn't I think o* that??
Quote from: Turner on Apr 08, 06:31 PM 2013
Badger, there are no winnings. It cost you 12U to win 12U
Turner's right! This must be a joke! A parting shot *rom ignatus.
;D
Sam
haha...
OK
Quote from: Turner on Apr 08, 06:31 PM 2013
Badger, there are no winnings. It cost you 12U to win 12U
There is if your winning street hits again, and again.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 08, 06:56 PM 2013
Turner's right! This must be a joke! A parting shot *rom ignatus.
;D
Sam
Hi Sam.
How the *uck are ya? ....sorry, been wanting to do that for a while now. ;D
Listen, Guys, I have a shiny new computer on the truck somewhere. I will convert this laptop to a remote keyboard and there will be no more *s. I also lost my kwe and some numbers. You don't use the kew much anymore.
"You're a *ueer lookin' Dude"
"Hey, * you. I ain't no *ueer!"
Yep, I *ed up this keyboard good!
Sam
Sam, you still can use this laptop, all u need is a portable USB keyboard for a few bucks
link:://:.walmart.com/cp/Keyboards/4442 (link:://:.walmart.com/cp/Keyboards/4442)
Thanks, iggiv.
@Teo: Your 'Follow The Street' system was just inducted into Project Q.
Congratulations :thumbsup:
Similar subject was being discussed at yahoo answers last week. I can post the link if needed.
Quote from: RFMAXX on Apr 08, 03:47 PM 2013
thank you for that but i still don't get it.
26 comes after 36. so it is not a winner, because 26 is not in the 12th street.
same with number 1 after 6 in row 25.
do you play double streets?
Glad you noticed it/that was my intention/and it's all corrected in my last attachment......this bet suppos to be for real players only.
Quote from: RFMAXX on Apr 08, 03:47 PM 2013
thank you for that but i still don't get it.
26 comes after 36. so it is not a winner, because 26 is not in the 12th street.
same with number 1 after 6 in row 25.
do you play double streets?
ITseems you still don't get it...come 26....you come even on 12 streets,but next bet you are putting 12 won on 26....all on 25.......therefore didn't lose on 26 but won on 25.....132 units....36 got nothing to do with that..as you are always winner on repeat of any street.
Quote from: Skakus on Apr 08, 04:30 PM 2013
Still up to your old tricks eh, Teo. :)
Why tricks,Skakus.......only verifying real players,as am fool of virtuals,RNG,RX and all these /take ppl.money
inventions/---in other words my intentions are very fair and human.
Quote from: Badger on Apr 08, 06:13 PM 2013
Bet 1 unit on each single street. Whichever street wins, use the winnings and bet for a repeat of that street.
Hope that's right?
EXACTLY---And for these blind it never passed D'Alambert 3-the most so far,and rarely that street don't repeats in cycle of 12.......serious players will take it as such...virtuals, if you give them diamonds they will play marbles
with it.
Or you could just play 12 units on the last single street. ie Follow The Last.
Would that not be the same thing?
Regards
Bruce
Quote from: Badger on Apr 09, 09:18 AM 2013
Or you could just play 12 units on the last single street. ie Follow The Last.
Would that not be the same thing?
Regards
Bruce
Base of any bet one can play as one wish....my way is in cycle of 12 spins/course 12 streets/more safer and D'Alambert goes up/down after eacg cycle........so far in 401 spins =2508 units won.
In other words it is not win 12 lose 12 as someone here suggested.Only weekend/beer players,that are afraid to pull out 50 bucks from their pockets can talk thisway.---CARTA CANTA---it's our anectode.
We only tested 8/9% of 5000 spins and going up virtually.......and soon am going for new collecting for real tonight.......and he says lose12,wins 12....what a statement....congratulation.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 09, 01:50 AM 2013
@Teo: Your 'Follow The Street' system was just inducted into Project Q.
Congratulations :thumbsup:
Dear Proofreaders,
---Clinic and hospital I recently finished with it.
If Ibobas,Flatinos,McMonacos,FLATmann,Ilukans,Viles
and who knows how many more/anybody remembers any more/couldn't
enter your clinic so far,that means those were good methods and needn't
any clinical help....therefore prolonge this until we see if this method should
go to doc or not.........My only clinic and new strenght and health gives me every
night entering casino......suggest to all.
CARTA CANTA?
“verba volant, scripta manent†(spoken words fly away, written words are here to stay)
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Badger on Apr 09, 10:53 AM 2013
CARTA CANTA?
“verba volant, scripta manent†(spoken words fly away, written words are here to stay)
:thumbsup:
Specially on the net, it stays forever and no shredder is at hand. It is as well spoken to the whole world.
Hello dear "23213 accounts"
I have DEJA VU... anybody else?
Quote from: Smoczoor on Apr 09, 11:54 AM 2013
Hello dear "23213 accounts"
I have DEJA VU... anybody else?
Sure! Have allready noticed!!
Quote from: Badger on Apr 09, 10:53 AM 2013
CARTA CANTA?
“verba volant, scripta manent†(spoken words fly away, written words are here to stay)
:thumbsup:
CARTA CANTA-means real results are showing the truth,or in poker not verbal say but shoving the cards.
Except that didn't grasp your words.
I did a quick test
1000 spins
ends + 6048 units
highest bet was 4 units per spot
max DD around 1300
I played the last street to hit with 1 unit and got +504 units so I just multiply everything by 12 - that's correct yes?
this way the max DD was only 108 units
very smooth so far :thumbsup:
Quote from: soggett on Apr 10, 04:50 AM 2013
I did a quick test
1000 spins
ends + 6048 units
highest bet was 4 units per spot
max DD around 1300
I played the last street to hit with 1 unit and got +504 units so I just multiply everything by 12 - that's correct yes?
this way the max DD was only 108 units
very smooth so far :thumbsup:
Max drawdown 108 or 108 x12
I must be missing something.
Ive tried every street idea going. I even tried this idea of following the last hit. It hit the wall like any other blind choice selection. Of course it will.
There must be more to it than just this.
What am i missing here?
525 spins tested so far.......no DD at all from the very start.----2868 +
What are you missing here??????
this;
0
w
0.........
whenever only 1 w in cycle =24+.....
2 w in cycle 192 +
3 w in cycle.......much more......depends the sequences of wins.
Quote from: soggett on Apr 10, 04:50 AM 2013
I did a quick test
1000 spins
ends + 6048 units
highest bet was 4 units per spot
max DD around 1300
I played the last street to hit with 1 unit and got +504 units so I just multiply everything by 12 - that's correct yes?
this way the max DD was only 108 units
very smooth so far :thumbsup:
It is a pitty to play on papers, while get a lucky run.
Quote from: Ralph on Apr 10, 07:08 AM 2013
It is a pitty to play on papers, while get a lucky run.
---3 nights in the row am comming home at 7am...playing this from 22 h until
6 in the morning.........nothing lucky with this Ralf..........cycles and 0-w 0- wins here./color]
BTW-never bet more then 12x4=48 per a street......and the winnings are so far
even more impressive then in test.
Soggett
I* you could write some clear rules on how to play this, I would pay Ste* and Nick to put it in my bot and we could give it a real money test.
Sam
Quote from: teo on Apr 10, 07:07 AM 2013
525 spins tested so far.......no DD at all from the very start.----2868 +
What are you missing here? ??? ??
this;
0
w
0.........
whenever only 1 w in cycle =24+.....
2 w in cycle 192 +
3 w in cycle.......much more......depends the sequences of wins.
just realised i did it wrong, forgot about the 0 after a win :-[ :-[
my bad, will go through it again
Quote from: Turner on Apr 10, 06:23 AM 2013
Max drawdown 108 or 108 x12
I must be missing something.
I've tried every street idea going. I even tried this idea of following the last hit. It hit the wall like any other blind choice selection. Of course it will.
There must be more to it than just this.
What am i missing here?
if playing just the last street than 108 units
but i did it wrong, will re-do and then post right results
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 10, 07:21 AM 2013
Soggett
I* you could write some clear rules on how to play this, I would pay Ste* and Nick to put it in my bot and we could give it a real money test.
Sam
Dear Samster,
It seems you can never understand me......but let Sogget explain it to you via pm,please...he knows why.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 10, 07:21 AM 2013
Soggett
I* you could write some clear rules on how to play this, I would pay Ste* and Nick to put it in my bot and we could give it a real money test.
Sam
as per teos wishes I'll PM you
Quote from: soggett on Apr 10, 07:45 AM 2013
ok, if I got it right, and Teo please check
you bet all the streets once and then you bet all your winnings on the street before, ie
we bet all the streets, and number 1 comes
1 - we get a hit, since we bet all the streets we are even, 0 profit
then we bet the 12 units we won from street 1 (11 won and 1 unit wagered) on street 1 looking for a repeater
at the same time we bet all the streets again with 1 unit
this way
if we get a repeat of street 1 we won 132 units - we win 143 units minus 11 we lost on other streets
if a street doesn't repeat we lost 12 units - 12 we parlayed cause the rest cancel each other out
and after a win teo doesn't go for 3 in a row (it says in the attachment - after each win 1 spin is virtual)
I guess if we have 3 in a row we wait another spin?
Teo have I gotten it right?
I had to get my head around it too first
basicaly
Ok....so i put 1u on street 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ,8 ,9 ,10, 11, 12 = 12u
Say...13 hits, i get my 12u back and I am back to zero.
Please!..someone explain why on earth i would do that. I need that explaining before i proceed.
I dont want "read the attachment" or 0-w-0 what ever that is...
Just explain because its actially starting to hurt me.
It hurts you ??????
How do you think I feel when clearly shown and explained in excel,explaining again and again....like unintelligent./should have write i..ot/
Here excel and do some work and study on your own...its all clear...or either you should better start with
craps.
dublinbet few seconds ago
this is rigt?
if this is rigt here is same 60 spins on double streets 38+ VS streets 48-
Quote from: biagle on Apr 10, 09:22 AM 2013
if this is rigt here is same 60 spins on double streets 38+ VS streets 48-
tray it on 5000 spins then you shall find it greatly in advantage of streets......did it all.
To soggett
Ok, Here is a screen shot using dollars. As you can see, I must bet $1 per number on one street as BV will not allow mutually exclusive bets.
Anyway, I bet $3 on each street and the 10 came as evidenced by the marquee. Now you can see I have bet $3 on all streets that did not hit and $12 on the one that did.
Is this correct?
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 10, 10:04 AM 2013
To soggett
Ok, Here is a screen shot using dollars. As you can see, I must bet $1 per number on one street as BV will not allow mutually exclusive bets.
Anyway, I bet $3 on each street and the 10 came as evidenced by the marquee. Now you can see I have bet $3 on all streets that did not hit and $12 on the one that did.
Is this correct?
Sam
from what I understand it should be 39 units on street 10,11,12 (since you are betting 3 per spot)
teo?
soggett
Let me ask it a di**erent way. The 10 won. I place three units on each street and THEN I place an additional thirty-six units on the 10-street?
Sam
I think that you only play all the streets after a win.
Maybe there are not enough triples to justify wasting 12 units.
Like this; the 17 came....
You play 1 unit on all the streets because if you check Teo's spreadsheet,
you'll see there is no loss before the win.
The win from the 12X1 unit bets cancels the previous spins 12 unit loss.
I think I've fried my brain :-\
Sam, I think you play 1 unit on each street PLUS the 12 units from the previous spin.
Badger
My units are three dollars each, so I am playing one unit on each street.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 10, 11:33 AM 2013
Badger
My units are three dollars each, so I am playing one unit on each street.
Sam
Wow Sam!
You win every spin! As long it is NOZ we can bet all if we like.
Quote from: Badger on Apr 10, 10:46 AM 2013
You play 1 unit on all the streets because if you check Teo's spreadsheet,
you'll see there is no loss before the win.
The win from the 12X1 unit bets cancels the previous spins 12 unit loss.
Thanks Badger........and next 0-after win is virtual.
Sam
On the spin that you win, ie when the last street repeats,
you win 12 units from the 1 bet (1 unit on every street),
AND you win 144 units (from the 12 units bet on the last street)
If you look at Teos' Spreadsheet, you will see that he has 0 units
for a loss before a win. This is because the 12 units won on the winning
spin cancels the 12 unit loss from the previous spin.
The next spin after the win, play 1 unit on each street. Then after you
win 12 units you play 1 unit on each street AND 12 units on the last street.
Hope that helps. :thumbsup:
Thanks Teo
Now that I understand, I can do some testing.
Regards
Bruce
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 10, 11:33 AM 2013
Badger
My units are three dollars each, so I am playing one unit on each street.
Sam
when you win on your 3 units/playing al 12 streets/then you put all your
winnings that the previous street will repeat........either lose 36 or win 396 minus 36x9=324=wininng 72 units
Quote from: Badger on Apr 10, 12:46 PM 2013
Sam
On the spin that you win, ie when the last street repeats,
you win 12 units from the 1 bet (1 unit on every street),
AND you win 144 units (from the 12 units bet on the last street)w=132....if lose all 12=loss 144
If you look at Teos' Spreadsheet, you will see that he has 0 units
for a loss before a win. This is because the 12 units won on the winning
spin cancels the 12 unit loss from the previous spin.
The next spin after the win, play 1 unit on each street. Then after youWrong----it is virtual searcher for next spin,therefore 0-
win 12 units you play 1 unit on each street AND 12 units on the last street.
Hope that helps. :thumbsup:
Thanks Teo
Is 12 spins a cycle?
If you win in a cycle, stay on 1 unit
If you lose 12 spins, next cycle is 2 units?
by the way Gents and ladies/K/,
--you can not play this with penauts in real casino.
Last night I hit the 4th.step=48 units on each of 12 sreets=576x 2 euros 1152 euros for 12 spins.,
and that is the highest I reach so far,even in testing mode.My casino limit is 600 euros on a individual street.
Therefore,practically i could lose 7200 if things go bad..........but in three nights I won more then 60% of that
limit........don't think it could possible happen,but since am such player I would probably continue on individual numbers in the streets also......In other words you must come prepared.
Quote from: Badger on Apr 10, 01:21 PM 2013
Thanks Teo
Is 12 spins a cycle?
If you win in a cycle, stay on 1 unit
If you lose 12 spins, next cycle is 2 units?
Ya.....then 3,4......never went over as yet.
OK, *olks........
I'm o** to the doctor's o**ice *or the rest o* the day. Will study this more later.
Yes, I'm going to get me an "eph" Going to go to "Ephs R Us" later today.
Sam
buy yoursel* some cheap USB keyboard when u get an opportunity
:D
Quotebuy yoursel*
**s please do, I'm getting tired o* the missing *'s too Sam
sam try on screen keyboard lol
start > run > %windir%\system32\osk.exe
Fine!! I found one!!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 10, 07:06 PM 2013
Fine!! I found one!!
Great.
I was just about to ask "Who doesn't have about 4 old keyboards in a closet somewhere???"
AD
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 10, 07:06 PM 2013
Fine!! I found one!!
Fantastic! Father sam Finally got the Friggin F key Fixed For a Few oF us Folks this F key Fiasco was Freaking Frustrating
Skakus
I'm Flabergasted!!
Hey, F-Troop..........
Watch this video and tell me if Im doing it right. Parlay Street (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=6hMQ3q3iJTs#)
:thumbsup:
i am gonna drink for that
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 10, 07:06 PM 2013
Fine!! I found one!!
Welcome aboard
with a new keyboard.
we'll spread the word:
u r a real sport
*a**
H** *o *o* *ix th* pr*****
Sam!
How do you fix the ________________(Can't figure it out.)
iggiv
Thanks. I am immortalized in poetry!!
:)
Problem.
How do you fix the problem.
Fixing problem with keyboard.
Put inside a little cord.
Your solution --USB,
this is real way to be.
Ah, problem! Thanks, Skakus..
I now have Microsoft wireless keyboard.
Sam
On one of my older "broken" computers I use an Ebay flexible USB keyboard I got for 4 dollars. It do not need so much input, as it run a bot much or all its running time.
don't get me wrong.
i really like this system. you can make money fast.
but you can lose it even faster. :'(
see this killer perm from casino duisburg.
Quote from: RFMAXX on Apr 11, 01:28 PM 2013
don't get me wrong.
i really like this system. you can make money fast.
but you can lose it even faster. :'(
see this killer perm from casino duisburg.
Killer??? you joking....try again,as instructed in cycles of 12......at the end/even thought hard/it come as a winner....as mentioned,you can not play this with peanauts.
Quote from: teo on Apr 11, 02:56 PM 2013
Killer??? you joking....try again,as instructed in cycles of 12......at the end/even thought hard/it come as a winner....as mentioned,you can not play this with peanauts.
Stick RFMAX numbers in a sheet, show us how its done!
yes. show it.
i noticed another error. when you get zero, the loss is not only -12.
its -24. because you wont get the +12 from another street hit.
teo, please recheck yourself and show us how to win this perm.
Hello teo,
Hope your playing well!!
Could you quickly reconfirm how you are playing. The method very briefly?
Thanks
Killer Perm replayed. Feel free to check for errors
and replay it yourself.
Stopped at MINUS 2400. Nobody will risk this amount of money hoping it recovers.
i hope i am doing something wrong.
Quote from: RFMAXX on Apr 11, 05:50 PM 2013
Killer Perm replayed. Feel free to check for errors
and replay it yourself.
Stopped at MINUS 2400. Nobody will risk this amount of money hoping it recovers.
i hope i am doing something wrong.
Well...they are real spins...I found them and checked them.
Also, looking at the date, its not been data mined until a zero fest was found....like, Monte Carlo 1962 LoL
its a fair request
I just dont get why all the hype.
This is the system, feel free to use it:
add any numbers you want in the green column.
For me, its a losing system in the long run.
Can anyone shade some light into this?
Regards,
Alex
no more hype. it tanked.
I would not be to quick to drive the last nail in the coffin.
Put in a user configurable win target and stop loss.
Sam
Can anyone shade some light into this?
Do not always look at just the long run. Short runs can be very profitable whereas long runs always fail.
See my above post.
This is not a bad idea.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 12, 11:00 AM 2013
Can anyone shade some light into this?
Do not always look at just the long run. Short runs can be very profitable whereas long runs always fail.
See my above post.
This is not a bad idea.
Sam
Sam....are you suggesting (drum roll) hit & run??
I like the graph though ;)
I used graphs while playing online a few years back, it can help to predict when a system is about to start winning again.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 12, 11:00 AM 2013
Can anyone shade some light into this?
Do not always look at just the long run. Short runs can be very profitable whereas long runs always fail.
See my above post.
This is not a bad idea.
Sam
I could,but having painters and decoraters as apartments must be fixed for new tourists by 01.05.......until then very busy here....just thinking loudly.......for these that think they will win testing something continously.......once again ...go to casino and play it...then you will see another picture.
Turner
When I hear people talk about H&R, I'm hearing them say they always win and then leave! There is something to be said logging on, seeing if the numbers are running your way, and then making an informed decision about what to do next.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 12, 01:53 PM 2013
Turner
When I hear people talk about H&R, I'm hearing them say they always win and then leave! There is something to be said logging on, seeing if the numbers are running your way, and then making an informed decision about what to do next.
Sam
Yeah...its gotta hit first before you can run
Quote from: Turner on Apr 12, 02:49 PM 2013
Yeah...its gotta hit first before you can run
Only if your bet hit, you win. Simple but hard to make!
We can try all, it works or not!
--And finally come a loss last night.Not so large as few cycles in the end recover some losses.
But still up enough to lose several more times like this.What is most interesting never been down
in first 120 spins of each night playing...maybe should be ending the session in future play.