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Title: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 17, 03:52 PM 2013
Procedure: Note the last two columns hit (these must be two different columns).  Wait for a third number (except zero) play the newest dozen.

Example: ..5,1 (wait for the newest number-#31)

Play the third dozen.  Repeat from the beginning each bet.  The
two spin-values before the last outcome must fall on different columns.

Bankroll suggestion: 200 units per one
unit base bet, 400 units per two unit base...

Progression suggestion: 1,1,1,2 (stop)

Win-Target/Stop-Loss: +5%/-50% of original bankroll amount.
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 17, 03:54 PM 2013
Test: Dublinbet Palace Euro Wheel#1-Wednesday, April 17,2013 @ 3:08pm

...12,5,20 (newest spin-value)-trigger

Bet Second dozen:    1.) 27(x)-30

Bet Third dozen:        2.) 33(win)+60
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+30
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 17, 03:54 PM 2013
Test: Celtic Casino American Wheel-Wednesday, April 17,2013 @ 2:16pm

...16,10,18,00,24,27,17,30

Bet Third Dozen:    1.) 33(win)+120
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 17, 03:54 PM 2013
Test: SmartLive Casino Euro Wheel-Wednesday, April 17,2013 @ 2:16pm

...24,25,14 (trigger)

Bet Second dozen:    1.) 11(x)-60

Bet First Dozen:         2.) 7(win)+120
--------------------------------------------
+60
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 20, 05:57 PM 2013
Test: Celtic Casino American Wheel-Saturday, April 20,2013 @ 4:46pm

...5,10,8 (newest spin-value)-trigger

Bet first dozen:        1.) 14(x)-60

...10,8,14 (newest spin-value)-trigger

Bet second dozen:    2.) 29(x)-60

...29,31,35 (trigger).    Bet third dozen:    3.) 34(win)+120
----------------------------------------------------------
break even
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 20, 05:59 PM 2013
Test: Dublinbet Palace Euro Wheel #2-Saturday, April 20,2013 @ 4:51pm

...31,9,8 (newest spin-value)-trigger

Bet first dozen:    1.) 3(win)+120
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: agesta on Apr 23, 02:19 AM 2013
Hi!
I have done 2 tests with my system just flat bets, 100 sessions each
One yesterday and one today
First session 38 wins 62 losses +11
Second session 37 wins , 63 losses +10
Played it with 0.1 euros
Very simular i would say.
agesta
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 24, 07:31 AM 2013
Test: SmartLive Casino European Wheel-Wednesday, April 24,2013 @ 6:25am

...33,11,28 (newest spin-value)-trigger

Bet third dozen once:    1.) 30(win)+120
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 24, 08:28 AM 2013
Test: Celtic Casino American Wheel-Wednesday, April 24,2013 @ 7:18am

...27,16,23 (newest spin-value)-trigger

Bet second dozen:    1.) 36(x)-60

...23,36,23 (trigger)

Bet second dozen:    2.) 25(x)-60

...23,25,13 (trigger)

Bet second dozen:    3.) 14(win)+120
-------------------------------------------
break even
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Chris555p on Apr 24, 10:36 AM 2013
Hi Agesta


I have a question in relation to your post above where it is indicated ....
"I have done 2 tests with my system just flat bets, 100 sessions each
One yesterday and one today. First session 38 wins 62 losses +11
Second session 37 wins , 63 losses +10"

Would you please tell me how come in session one, you had 38 wins
and 62 losses and you end up with + 11units. Same thing with
session two, thanks

Cheers

Chris
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: agesta on Apr 24, 11:03 AM 2013
Quote from: Chris555p on Apr 24, 10:36 AM 2013
Hi Agesta


I have a question in relation to your post above where it is indicated ....
"I have done 2 tests with my system just flat bets, 100 sessions each
One yesterday and one today. First session 38 wins 62 losses +11
Second session 37 wins , 63 losses +10"

Would you please tell me how come in session one, you had 38 wins
and 62 losses and you end up with + 11units. Same thing with
session two, thanks

Cheers

Chris
Hi Chris!
I don`t really now what you mean but i had one more loss in second session and i ended up one unit less.
But it can also be that i forget a game then a played but still it is nice that both session ended in + and very simular.

Cheers Agesta
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Chris555p on Apr 24, 11:17 AM 2013
Hi Agesta

I was just wondering how the calculation of + 11 was derived.....?

In my case if I'm flat betting and I have more losses than winnings
my overall result is - not +.......

Am I missing something....?


Cheers

Chris
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: agesta on Apr 24, 11:47 AM 2013
Quote from: Chris555p on Apr 24, 11:17 AM 2013
Hi Agesta

I was just wondering how the calculation of + 11 was derived.....?

In my case if I'm flat betting and I have more losses than winnings
my overall result is - not +.......

Am I missing something....?


Cheers

Chris
Hi!

When you win,you win 2 units,when you lose
You lose 1 unit.
37 wins =74 units
63 losses=-63
74-63=11
Cheers
Agesta
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 27, 02:23 AM 2013
Test: Celtic Casino American Wheel-Saturday, April 27,2013 @ 1:18am

...1,1,11,30 (newest spin-value)-trigger

Bet third dozen:    1.) 31(win)+120
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 27, 05:55 AM 2013
Test: Dublinbet Euro Wheel #1-Saturday, April 27,2013 @ 4:43am

...10,27,15 (newest spin-value)-trigger

Bet second dozen:    1.) 33(x)-60

...33,13,0,32,24,20 (trigger)

Bet second dozen:    2.) 35(x)-60

Third dozen trigger active.  Bet third dozen:    3.) 29(win)+120
------------------------------------------------------
break even
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Chris555p on Apr 27, 10:37 AM 2013
Agesta

Thanks for the reply; I see now what u mean.

Cheers

Chris
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 27, 10:50 PM 2013
I've moved the topic to the Main Roulette Board because it
will better serve the Forum.  In my opinion it is an excellent system.
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: agesta on Apr 28, 01:15 AM 2013
Ok!
Thanks a lot! :) :)
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: agesta on May 10, 10:35 AM 2013
Hi!
I have tested  a Little different way of playing my system.
Like this.
I do the normal way with the trigger.
Lets say the trigger was to bet 1 docen it miss, instead of waiting for the next trigger to apare.
i bet the 1 docen and the docen who came instead with 2 units each.
If i miss both bet i lose 5 units like the other way but the hit rate its much better anyway so far.
I tested this with 100 games and the results are.
Loss=16 times
Wins= 84 times
Total+ 44 units
I will do more testing
Cheers agesta
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Chris555p on May 10, 03:56 PM 2013
Hi Agesta

Do u play on real wheel or autowheel or rng....? thanks



Cheers

Chris
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Mudiru on May 10, 06:13 PM 2013
1)Live wheel or RNG? Exactly where do you play and with real money?
2)How many losses in row did you experience? This is very important.




You currently play like this?
1
3
36 trigger bet 3rd dozen 1unit
15 loss now bet 3rd dozen and 2nd dozen with 2unit/2unit
22 win

Quote:
"Loss=16 times      =80units lost
Wins= 84 times      =40 won in 1st step (80units) 44won in 2nd step (44units)
Total+ 44 units"     =124won - 80lost = 44profit
Apparently both steps do a great job and even if you lose you still end in profit. With these results if you would lose 6more times it would mean 22losses 78wins and still end with +2profit. I even covered worst case scenario and still get profit, something fishy here.
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Mudiru on May 10, 07:22 PM 2013
Just did some live wheel tests on the run and come up with a problem:

Just come across this:
13
27
29 trigger bet 3rd dozen
0 loss. what do i bet now? i bet 3rd dozen again and what else?
31 normally i would have won with 3rd dozen but it was just luck
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: agesta on May 11, 02:15 AM 2013
100 spins Unibet rng fun Money
::wLwL:::::::::::wL:wL::::wL:wwL
LwLwwLLwwLL:L:L:wLwwLww
= profit 38 units
When i get a loss in first attempt and then comes a 0 i use atlantis line system ex. then a red odd or black even comes i play 2 and 3 docen.
Then a Black odd or red even comes i play 1 and 2 docen.
The first session was played with autowheel also fun Money.
I will test this with real Money but first i will do more testing,that is something i have learnt here at the forum.from you guys.
agesta
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: agesta on May 12, 05:04 AM 2013
133 spins, autowheel ,real Money.
:wwLL:LwLLL:wL:
L:::wL:LwwL:w
::wLLL:L::wwLL
::L::LL:wLwwL:wwL
LwL::L::wwLwwL::
:ww
29 losses
104 wins
= profit 2 units
Tough ,but no Money lost!
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: ego on May 12, 06:00 AM 2013

I like the LW-Registry very much, very cool.
Now i don't understand the trigger/selection and how you play.

Could you explain it more in detail.
Like you have dozen 123 and show where you bet and why.

Many Thanks

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2
2
3
3
2
3
2
3
1
1
2
1
2
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Mudiru on May 12, 06:02 AM 2013
1)You mean 133 spins played, but there must have been over 200spins because you don't always have a trigger right?
2)I see 3 Losses in row which means after 3 losses you can trigger for a SAFE BET AND BET MORE THAN USUAL, like 10u instead of 1 and then 20/20 instead of 2/2 you see?

make more tests, if you never go over 3 losses in row it means at 3 losses in row you have A 100% SAFE TRIGGER!
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: warrior on May 12, 09:55 AM 2013
Is this a 1 dozen or a 2 dozen bet? and explaine how this bet is played please.
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: agesta on May 12, 04:17 PM 2013
Hi guys!
I will try to explain how i play this!
1. Trigger , when 2 different columns have hit and then i play the docen that the hit number has in next spin.
2. This is both a 1 docen and 2 docen game.
3. If the first bet hit wins great ,i win 2 units
4. If that bet lose i play 2 units on my trigger docen and 2 units on the docen that just hit.
5. If 0 hits i would play like atlantis line system, let say black 4 hits in next spin i would play 2 and 3 docen.
I will show you more tomorrrow morning, right now i really most Watch are Swedish guys and see if one of them can beat Tiger in the players championchip
agesta
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Chris555p on May 12, 04:47 PM 2013
Hi Agesta

Thanks for clarficatying. If tomorrow u could include an example as to
how u bet when zero gets hit that would be great thanks.

Cheers

Chris
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: agesta on May 13, 01:52 AM 2013
Quote from: Mudiru on May 12, 06:02 AM 2013
1)You mean 133 spins played, but there must have been over 200spins because you don't always have a trigger right?
2)I see 3 Losses in row which means after 3 losses you can trigger for a SAFE BET AND BET MORE THAN USUAL, like 10u instead of 1 and then 20/20 instead of 2/2 you see?

make more tests, if you never go over 3 losses in row it means at 3 losses in row you have A 100% SAFE TRIGGER!
Hi!
You are right, there was around 200 spins ,but 133 spins there i put a bet.
I will do more test  and get back with results.
I haven`t thinked about your input about just 3 losses in the row
Thanks agesta
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: ego on May 13, 02:06 AM 2013
Quote from: agesta on May 12, 04:17 PM 2013
Hi guys!
I will try to explain how i play this!
1. Trigger , when 2 different columns have hit and then i play the docen that the hit number has in next spin.
2. This is both a 1 docen and 2 docen game.
3. If the first bet hit wins great ,i win 2 units
4. If that bet lose i play 2 units on my trigger docen and 2 units on the docen that just hit.
5. If 0 hits i would play like atlantis line system, let say black 4 hits in next spin i would play 2 and 3 docen.
I will show you more tomorrrow morning, right now i really most Watch are Swedish guys and see if one of them can beat Tiger in the players championchip
agesta

Well i still don't get it ...
I know a march and maybe that is what you do ...

You see column 1 hit the you bet and follow column 1.
If a lose and column 3 hit, then you bet column 1 and 3.
It is a loop or algorithm.
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: agesta on May 13, 02:54 AM 2013
Hi!
Here is live numbers from this morning at Unibet, i would play them like this.
nr.      C       D
25       1        3  no bet 
27       3        3  bet doc 3 with 1 unit, because of 2 different C
27       3        3  hit win 3 units, no bet
5         2        1   bet doc 1 with 1 unit ,because of 2 different C
9         3        1 hit win 3 units, bet 1 doc with 1 unit
14       2        2 loss 1 unit, bet 1 and 2 doc with 2 units each
36       3        3 loss 4 units, bet 3 doc with 1 unit
6         3        1 loss, bet 3 and 1 doc with 2 units each
33       3        3 win 6 unit, no bet
28       1        3 bet  3 doc with 1 unit
36       3        3 win 3 units, bet doc 3 with 1 unit
21       3        2 loss 1 unit ,bet 2 and 3 doc with 2 units each
17      2         2 win 6 units ,bet 2 doc with 1 unit
3        3         1 loss 1 unit, bet 1 and 2 doc with 2 units each
20      2         2 win 6 units, bet 2 doc with 1 unit
19      1         2 win 3 units bet 1 doc with 1 unit
10      1         1 loss 1 unit, bet 1 and 2 doc with 2 units each
8        2         1 Winn´6 units
I think this will be 7 unit profit
9 games played 1 loss 4 wins in first bet, 4 games in second bet
Hope i got this right,
This is how i normal play
Then 0 hit  after first bet i lock
what the next number is,
if it is RO or BE i would play 2 and 3 doc
if it is BO or RE i woud play 1 and 2 doc
agesta
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: agesta on May 13, 05:05 AM 2013
auto Wheel real Money
L:wL:w
L:wLwwLw
:wL:ww
ww
Profit 10 units
6 losses
14 wins first trigger
12 wins second trigger
Hade some luck with my firt trigger
agesta
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: agesta on May 13, 06:40 AM 2013
Second session
wLwL:wwLwLwL:wwL:::::
Profit 10 units
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: RFMAXX on May 13, 07:27 AM 2013
i am glad it worked for you so far.

tried it with real spins and it tanked. did i made a mistake?
how would you play this?

28
8
2
15
0
29
2
7
19
18
31
1
30
15
32
21
29
10
2
20
27
30
34
9
14
0
10
33
6
10
28
28
6
16

Duisburg, 09.04.2013, Table 7
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: agesta on May 13, 09:58 AM 2013
28
8 win 3 units, game 14 +2 total-7,no bet both in same columns                                total 14 games - 7 units
2 bet 1 unit on 1 doc                                                                                                   
15 no bet                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
0 lose 5 units, game 13 -5 total -9
29 lose 1 unitbet 2 units on1 and 3 doc
2 win 1 unit ,game 12 +1total-4,bet 1 unit on 1doc
7 lose 1 unit, bet 2 units on 1 and 2 doc
19 win 3 units, game11 +2 total -5, bet 1 unit on 2 doc
18 lose 5 units game 10 -5total -7,bet 1 unit on 2 doc
31 lose 1 unit, bet 2 units on 1 and 3 doc
1 lose 5 units, game 9 -5 total -2,bet 1 unit on 1 doc
30 lose 1 unit,bet 2 units on 2 and 3 doc
15 win 6 units, game 8 +1total +3,bet 1 unit on 2 doc
32 lose 1 unit,bet 2 units on 2 and 3 doc
21 lose 5 units ,game 7 -5total +2,bet 1 unit on 2 doc
29 lose 1 unit,bet 2 units on 1 and 3 doc
10 win 6 units game 6 +1total +7,bet 1 unit on 1 doc
2 lose 1 unit, bet 2 units on 1 and 2 doc
20 bet 1 unit on 2 doc
27 win 3 units, game 5 +2total +6,no bet both in same column
30 win 1 unit , game 4 +1total +4, bet 1 unit on 3 doc
34 lose 1 unit, bet 2 units on 1 and 3 doc
9 win 6 units game 3 +1 total +3 ,bet 1 unit on 1 doc
14 bet 2 units 1 and 2 doc using atlantis line system
0 lose 1 unit no bet
10 win 6 units ,2 game +1 total +2 units, bet 1 unit on 1 doc
33 lose 1, bet 2 units on doc 1 and 3
6 bet 1 unit on 1 doc
10 no bet both in same column
28   win 6 units, 1 game +1 unit, no bet
28   lose 1, bet 2 units on 3 and 1 doc
6     bet 1 doc ,1unit
16   no bet
I Think this is right,no good but i do Think it would recover and hopefully
make a few units
This is played from down to up
agesta
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: ignatus on May 13, 11:18 AM 2013
"Note the last two columns hit (these must be two different columns).  Wait for a third number (except zero) play the newest dozen. Example: ..5,1 (wait for the newest number-#31) Play the third dozen."


This is basically playing on a sleeping dozen/column. That is not a great bet selection In My Humble Opinion. Why ? A dozen/column can sleep for 10+ spins... and this is not a rare event...
Title: Re: Agesta's Dozen System
Post by: Turner on May 13, 12:01 PM 2013
Quote from: ignatus on May 13, 11:18 AM 2013
"Note the last two columns hit (these must be two different columns).  Wait for a third number (except zero) play the newest dozen. Example: ..5,1 (wait for the newest number-#31) Play the third dozen."


This is basically playing on a sleeping dozen/column. That is not a great bet selection In My Humble Opinion. Why ? A dozen/column can sleep for 10+ spins... and this is not a rare event...
Roulette can be like a boxing match. The smaller the odds....the longer the rounds are and the shorter the breaks between rounds. As the odds increase....the rounds get shorter and the rests between rounds get longer. Basically....1:2 bets like double dozens, you get battered with hardly any rest. Bet 1chip on one number and you get the odd light punch and lots of rest.
Amen