For testing...
TRENDING LINES with GLAT
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Live roulette - Single 0. (not tried on nozero rng - but would be quicker)
Lines used are the standard ones (eg: 1/6, 7/12, 13/18, 19/24, 25/30, 31/36)
These are referred to as Line 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.
Bet Selection
========
Simply bet the 2 trending line(s) from the last SIX decisions.
Trending line - is a line that has hit 2 or more times during the last 6 spins
Always record and use only the LAST SIX numbers that hit.
Examine these numbers and if there are TWO and ONLY TWO trending lines (lines that hit at least TWICE in the last 6 spins) then that is the signal to bet!
Just to clarify; If there are 1, 3 or no trending lines then NO BET.
Bet the two trending lines.
For example the last 6 numbers to hit are:
9, 32, 28, 23, 19, 35
translates as lines:
2, 6, 5, 4, 4, 6
This is trigger to bet lines 4 and 6 (19/24 ; 31/36)
Win or lose, record the winning result and update the LAST SIX results to search for the next trigger to bet (it may indicate the same lines as before or a different combo of 2 lines) If, however, there is no trigger signal then continue to virtually record line results and update the last six decisions until a signal occurs.
Do not record the zero (0) as a result.
Using the GLAT progression for SINGLE DOZENS:
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Select your own preferred base unit size.
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Each line I will call a set of W/L's.
Start @ 1 x 0.5 unit on each line. (1 base unit total)
1. W Ends set. If at a new profit, reset to 1 x 0.5 unit on each line else stay at same bet size and start a new set.
2. LW Ends Set. If at a new profit, reset to 1 x 0.5 unit on each line else stay at same bet size and start a new set.
3. LLW Ends set. Neutral set. No bet size change. Start a new set.
4. LLLW Ends set. -1u Very small loss, so start a new set at same bet size.
5. LLLLW Ends set. -2u Getting into losses, so play next set at +0.5 unit added to EACH bet size.
6. LLLLL...W The 1st W ends set. Number of L's = 5 or more. This will keep bet sizes from escalating when we hit our sleeping 2 lines. As soon as we have a Win it ends this set and we increase our bet size by additional +0.5 unit each line for next set.
These 6 sets should cover every possibility. Sets 1 & 2 are our winning sets.
Remember, If you WIN and are level or have reached a new highest profit after a bet then reset the progression to the very beginning.
Real Example Game. (played just now on live autowheel)
w/l set +/- Bal.
====== === ===
LW +1u +1u reset
LW +1u +2u reset
W +2u +4u reset
LLW +0u +4u reset
LLLLLW -3u +1u add 0.5u to each line bet
W +4u +5u reset
LLLW -1u +4u stay at same level...
W +2u +6u reset
LLW +0u +6u reset
LLLLW -2u +4u add 0.5u to each line bet
LLLLW -4u +0u add 0.5u to each line bet
LLW +0u +0u stay at same level...
W +6u +6u reset
LLLW -1u +5u stay at same level...
LW +1u +6u reset
W +2u +8u Stopped Here.
Profit = +8u in 44 bets made over 94 spins duration. (inc. initial 6 results)
Highest bet = 1.5 units on each of the 2 lines.
A.
How well written was that?
Completely comprehensive.
Makes a refreshing change.
I do have a glad-eye for line bets.
Turner
Hi Atlantis
Thanks for sharing; I will do some testing and report my findings; A couple of question if I may....
1) How do we treat the big green when it shows up.....? Start retracking...? or we consider it as a non event....?
2) Does that mean after 6 consecutive losses we give up and wait for a next trigger....?
Cheers
Chris
err... whats the GLAT progression exactly?
Quote from: Chris555p on Apr 19, 07:19 AM 2013
Hi Atlantis
Thanks for sharing; I will do some testing and report my findings; A couple of question if I may....
1) How do we treat the big green when it shows up.....? Start retracking...? or we consider it as a non event....?
2) Does that mean after 6 consecutive losses we give up and wait for a next trigger....?
Cheers
Chris
Hi Chris,
1) 0 is considered as a non-event. Do not record it. Continue tracking.
2) No. There is no limit of 6 losses. Continue betting until win.
GLAT is an acronym for GLC/Atlantis progression for single dozen. :)
A.
Hi Atlantis
Thanks for the prompt response; I will perform testing on live roulette and report findings.
Cheers
Chris
Quote from: atlantis on Apr 19, 07:57 AM 2013
Hi Chris,
GLAT is an acronym for GLC/Atlantis progression for single dozen. :)
A.
Thank you Atlantis.
Quote from: atlantis on Apr 19, 07:57 AM 2013
Hi Chris,
1) 0 is considered as a non-event. Do not record it. Continue tracking.
2) No. There is no limit of 6 losses. Continue betting until win.
GLAT is an acronym for GLC/Atlantis progression for single dozen. :)
A.
Acronyms are OTT as far as I am concerned....Thats just my POV....I prefer language to be more WYSIWYG
TTFN
Turner
Quote from: Turner on Apr 19, 12:17 PM 2013
Acronyms are OTT as far as I am concerned....that's just my point of view....I prefer language to be more WYSIWYG
TTFN
Turner
If you have any doubt whether someone will understand an abbreviation, write the term out in full. Otherwise, he will be left in the position of the farmer who shot a crow, then noticed the tag on its leg: "Wash. Biol. Surv.'' The next day he was talking with his neighbor about the last night's dinner: "I followed the directions, washed it, boiled it, and put it on the table. Damn crow still tasted awful.''
:)
0.5Atlantis,
Nice strategy. Looks solid.
Here's an idea that popped up after being away from this progression idea.
The following is the beginning of the GLAT
Each line I will call a set of W/L's.
Start @ 1 x 0.5 unit on each line. (1 base unit total)
1. W Ends set. If at a new profit, reset to 1 x 0.5 unit on each line else stay at same bet size and start a new set.
2. LW Ends Set. If at a new profit, reset to 1 x 0.5 unit on each line else stay at same bet size and start a new set.
3. LLW Ends set. Neutral set. No bet size change. Start a new set.
The following is a suggested change to consider. It addresses Chris' question.
4. LLL Ends set at -3. Increase bet by 0.5 units on each line. Wait for a virtual Win before starting a new set.
This will eliminate all losses of more than 3 in a row.
It doesn't mean we won't start our next set with 3 more Losses after our virtual win.
But it could be that LLLLLLLWLLLWLLLLW (in other words 3 or more Losses followed by 1 Win followed by 3 or more Losses followed by 1 Win followed by 3 or more Losses, etc...) is a rarer occurrence than LLLLLLLLL.
They may have the same odds. It's just a thought.
GLC
Nice idea, George.
It is worth looking at for sure.
Thanks again,
A.
HI GLC, Chris.
To accommodate Chris's suggestion maybe we could just amend rule #6 as follows and add rule #7?
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Each line I will call a set of W/L's.
Start @ 1 x 0.5 unit on each line. (1 base unit total)
1. W Ends set. If at a new profit, reset to 1 x 0.5 unit on each line else stay at same bet size and start a new set.
2. LW Ends Set. If at a new profit, reset to 1 x 0.5 unit on each line else stay at same bet size and start a new set.
3. LLW Ends set. Neutral set. No bet size change. Start a new set.
4. LLLW Ends set. -1u Very small loss, so start a new set at same bet size.
5. LLLLW Ends set. -2u Getting into losses, so play next set at +0.5 unit added to EACH bet size.
6. LLLLLW Ends set -3u Play next set at +0.5 unit added to EACH bet size.
7. LLLLLL Ends set at -6. Increase bet by 0.5 units on each line. Wait for a virtual Win before starting a new set. This will eliminate all losses of more than 6 in a row.
These 7 sets should cover every possibility. Sets 1 & 2 are our winning sets.
Remember, If you WIN and are level or have reached a new highest profit after a bet then reset the progression to the very beginning.
A.
Hi Atlantis, GLC
I think this system is a real pearl.
I've been playing it on live roulette DB, Fairway and yesterday in a real B&M casino;
The results across the board are just great, after 4 LLL's maximum it's a win so far...;
therefore it does not require steep progression to recover L's and be in profit.
Thanks Atlantis for sharing this pearl and for GLC and other members to
provide ideas to improve it.
Cheers
Chris
here is some play..
l l l
l w
l l w
l l l
w
w
w
w
l w
l l w
w
l l l
l l l
l w
w
l l l
l l l
w
w
w
l w
1- 2+
w
2+
w
2+
not bad, +5 in 3 spins
Hi Proof / Atlantis
I have a question regarding the trending lines with GLAT. After a win is it necessary to wait for a fresh serie 6
new numbers or can we use some of the existing numbers after a win.
For example the last 6 numbers to hit are: 9, 32, 28, 23, 19, 35
translates as lines: 2, 6, 5, 4, 4, 6
This is trigger to bet lines 4 and 6 (19/24 ; 31/36)
Suppose 32 line 6 comes it is a win.
Then no. 13 comes, line2. Then no. 33 comes, line 6; The new last 6 lines is therefore
5,4,4,6,2,6
Can we start betting line 4 and 6….? Or is it necessary to wait for a fresh serie of six numbers after the first initial
win…..? Thanks
Cheers
Chris
Quote from: Chris555p on Apr 22, 08:40 PM 2013
Hi Proof / Atlantis
I have a question regarding the trending lines with GLAT. After a win is it necessary to wait for a fresh serie 6
new numbers or can we use some of the existing numbers after a win.
For example the last 6 numbers to hit are: 9, 32, 28, 23, 19, 35
translates as lines: 2, 6, 5, 4, 4, 6
This is trigger to bet lines 4 and 6 (19/24 ; 31/36)
Suppose 32 line 6 comes it is a win.
Then no. 13 comes, line2. Then no. 33 comes, line 6; The new last 6 lines is therefore
5,4,4,6,2,6
Can we start betting line 4 and 6….? Or is it necessary to wait for a fresh serie of six numbers after the first initial
win…..? Thanks
Cheers
Chris
I'm not Proof or Atlantis, but I think I can answer your question:
Win or lose,
record the winning result and update the LAST SIX results to search for the next trigger to bet (it may indicate the same lines as before or a different combo of 2 lines) If, however, there is no trigger signal then continue to virtually record line results and update the last six decisions until a signal occurs.
As you can see from the above quote from Atlantis' original post, we don't have to wait for 6 more results after a win. We always check the last 6 results for a trigger. That means it's possible that we can bet every spin if we continue to get 2 lines hitting 2 times in the last 6 spins.
There's no advantage to waiting for a new 6 spins after a win. What if you just sat down after the last 6 spins you used in your example? You wouldn't know that had you been playing prior to these 6 spins, you would have just won.
Go for it. There will be enough tracking without being able to bet as it is.
GLC
Hi George
Thanks for the clarification, I greatly appreciate; It's a gem this system; been playing it live at DB and also in B&M casino;
the hit rate and results are very impressive. Thanks also to Atlantis, proof for sharing.
Cheers
Chris
Hi Chris555,
Yes GLC is correct with his clarification. I'm glad you're enjoying this topic.
Session played with original 6-rule GLAT:
LLLLLLW -4 -4 Incr by 0.5u
LW +2 -2 stay at same level
W +4 +2 reset to 0.5u
W +2 +4
Profit = +4
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Same session played with atlantis rule #7:
LLLLLL -6 -6 Incr by 0.5 and wait for a virtual 'w'
W virtual win
LW +2 -4 Stay at same level
W +4 +0 reset to 0.5u
W +2 +2
Profit = +2
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Same session with GLC mod:
LLL -3 -3 Incr by 0.5 and wait for a virtual 'w'
LLL
W virtual win
LW +2 -1 stay at same level
W +4 +3 reset to 0.5u
W +2 +5
Profit = +5
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With this result seems like the "Original" does well - BUT - the very interesting "GLC mod" fares best here! :)
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GLC mod
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Each line I will call a set of W/L's.
Start @ 1 x 0.5 unit on each line. (1 base unit total)
1. W Ends set. If at a new profit, reset to 1 x 0.5 unit on each line else stay at same bet size and start a new set.
2. LW Ends Set. If at a new profit, reset to 1 x 0.5 unit on each line else stay at same bet size and start a new set.
3. LLW Ends set. Neutral set. No bet size change. Start a new set.
4. LLL Ends set at -3. Increase bet by 0.5 units on each line. Wait for a virtual Win before starting a new set.
I think/conclude that the way to go is via the original 6-rule or the new GLC way.
A.
Hi Atlantis
Yes I agree with yours and Georges' opinions. I also tested the system on auto roulette and it works quite well too.
Cheers
Chris
anyone playing this? dublin:
w
2+ 2+
l w
1- 2+ 3+
l w
1- 2+ 4+
l l l
1- 1- 1- 1+
w
4+ 5+
w
2+ 7+
w
2+ 9+
l l l
1- 1- 1- 6+
w
4+ 10+
quick 180 spins test
llw
lw
w
lllw
w
w
lllllw
llllw
lw
lw
lllllw
llw
lw
w
w
llllllw
llw
lllllw
w
lllllllllw
w
w
ends +24, highest bet 4 units (flatbetting i get -10 units)
this is the hardest I have found so far
all others i have tested don't go over 2,3 units per spot (maybe just luck so far? ;) )
very nice system with a very very nice progression
perfect for grinders, a few units and you are done, I like it :thumbsup:
great work guys
Hi everyone
I play this method regularly, it works quite well, and it has become one of my favourite method. Thanks to Atlantis,
George for sharing..
To push the testing a bit further I’m wondering if we could test / play this method against another method which
also gives good results and which also involves playing lines. The method in question was submitted by Ego and
is called Re: Algorithm win or break even hybrid, even money bets. Thanks to Ego for sharing.
It's just an idea, may be we can also play these two methods concurrently, therefore doubling profits, spending
lesser amount of time at the wheel, reducing risk etc.....Any thoughts……??
Cheers
Chris
Hi Chris555,
I am still using this and am easily ahead if taking small win targets. It's a nice easy method with no sweat - but patience and determination are required.
For more bet opportunities was thinking that maybe if no bet indicated in last 6 results, and as an optional extension, to then proceed to consider the last SEVEN results to see if there are the necessary dual qualifiers required....? Naturally qualifying lines in the last 6 results will always take priority though... Would be interesting to see how that might affect strikerate!
Another bet you can try with the same recommended GLAT progression is my Line Combo Bet idea which would be faster and will give you plenty more bets to place. Check it out over here:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=1347.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=1347.0)
Although must confess this just occurred to me and have not actually tried GLAT with that - but could be very promising... and its another one you could use with separate bank to play in tandem with "Trending Lines". :)
Regards,
A.
had a session like this:
lll
lll
w
llw
lll
lll
lll
w
never recovered. dublinbet live.
Any ideas how to avoid such situation?
Quote from: biagle on Apr 26, 07:54 AM 2013
had a session like this:
lll - is this LLL....LW? or just 3 L's? if it's just 3L's then no problem
lll
w
llw
lll
lll
lll
w
never recovered. dublinbet live.
Any ideas how to avoid such situation?
big problem:)
3xL
3xL
1xW
even
3xL
3xL
3XL
and so on
Quote from: biagle on Apr 26, 07:54 AM 2013
had a session like this:
lll
lll
w
llw
lll
lll
lll
w
never recovered. dublinbet live.
Any ideas how to avoid such situation?
Hi i can help with some LW strategy but of course sometimes no matter what strategys
will use the bad run will catch you anyway, that can be saved with good MM (again just sometimes).
So....try this:
trigger is one virtual W now bet for máximum 3 spins to catch the W , if lose
L1L2L3 Stop and wait one virtual W then bet again .....
If after virtual W you catch one real W bet again for one W
(always bet for 2 Ws or 3 Ls) .
Let s take your Lw registry :
LLLLLL(virtuals)W(virt.)L1 L2 W (real) L1 L2 L3 (stop) L L L L L L (virtuals)W virtual.......so on....
Remember , still can hit bad runs : Wvirt. L1L2WL1L2L3LLWvirt.L1L2L3Wvirt.WL1L2L3LLLLWvirt.L1L2L3........
what to do in this case ? reduce unit size when lose(to mÃnimum) , and rize unit size(or stay on same) when win , reset when in plus or when recovered from
some drawdowns.
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Now if i use the example from Sogget :
llw
lw
w
lllw
w
w
lllllw
llllw
lw
lw
lllllw
llw
lw
w
w
llllllw
llw
lllllw
w
lllllllllw
w
w
________________
Lvirtual
Lv
Wvirt.
L1
Wreal
Wreal stop ( 2 Ws) wait virt. win
Lv
Lv
Lv
Wv
Wreal
Wreal stop
Lv
Lv
Lv
Lv
Lv
Wv
L1
L2
L3 stop
Lv
Wv
L1
Wreal
L1
Wreal stop
Lv
Lv
Lv
Lv
Lv
Wv
L1
L2
Wreal
L1
Wreal stop
Wvirt.
Wreal
L1
L2
L3 stop
.....so on...............
cheers
Quote from: biagle on Apr 26, 08:26 AM 2013
big problem:)
3xL
3xL
1xW
even
3xL
3xL
3XL
and so on
again I ask
is it
LLL
LLL
W
or is it
LLL....LW
LLL....LW
W?
cause after 3 L's you should wait for a virtual W
that makes it better
+1 on what Kattila said
Hi,
Remember not to just look for 2 lines to hit twice exactly in the last 6 results - the signal to bet is when you have two lines that have hit AT LEAST twice in the last 6 results... And of course the qualifying lines to bet can change after a spin
So if the line history is
651614 - signal to bet lines 6 and 1
516656 - signal to bet lines 5 and 6
323233 - signal to bet lines 2 and 3
363666 - signal to bet lines 3 and 6
After each spin, update line history and search in the refreshed last 6 results for possible next bet qualifiers.
I'm assuming biagle played according to these rules.
GLC's suggested modification was to wait for a virtual W after a string of 3 L's before re-commencing at +0.5 on each line.
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Apr 26, 02:17 PM 2013
Hi,
Remember not to just look for 2 lines to hit twice exactly in the last 6 results - the signal to bet is when you have two lines that have hit AT LEAST twice in the last 6 results... And of course the qualifying lines to bet can change after a spin
So if the line history is
651614 - signal to bet lines 6 and 1
516656 - signal to bet lines 5 and 6
323233 - signal to bet lines 2 and 3
363666 - signal to bet lines 3 and 6
After each spin, update line history and search in the refreshed last 6 results for possible next bet qualifiers.
I'm assuming biagle played according to these rules.
GLC's suggested modification was to wait for a virtual W after a string of 3 L's before re-commencing at +0.5 on each line.
A.
But you showed that your original progression was as good as or better than other suggestions, right?
Quote from: biagle on Apr 26, 07:54 AM 2013
had a session like this:
lll Lose these 3 so -1.5 units
lll No bet on these 3. Waiting for a virtual Win
w Virtual win. Raise bet amount to 1 unit
llw Break even so no bet amount change
lll Lose these 3 at 1 unit, so -3 (-3 + -1.5= -4.5).
lll No bet on these 3. Waiting for a virtual win
lll No bet on these 3. Waiting for a virtual win
w Virtual win. Raise bet by .5 units to 1.5 per bet.
Ended series at -4.5 units.
Not good, but not too bad either. Very recoverable.
never recovered. dublinbet live.
Any ideas how to avoid such situation?