Itââ,¬â,,¢s simple. Someone sent me the basis of this idea, Iââ,¬â,,¢m just expanding it.
After a series of letââ,¬â,,¢s say, R or B, O or E, or H & L stops, place ONE bet on the opposite of last. In other words, youââ,¬â,,¢ll be betting that the series will continue after the break up.
Ex: RRR..Bââ,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦.after you wait for the series to stop, then you bet on Red
Ex: HH..Lââ,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦.place ONE bet on High
Ex: OEOOOOO..E.....................bet on Odd
Here is the thing; you wonââ,¬â,,¢t be betting on just one EC. You will be betting on any EC that ends its series.
Example: 12,22,36,5ââ,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦..after no. 5 shows up, bet on Even or High.
From my tests, I found out itââ,¬â,,¢s best not to bet on two ECs at the same time. So, as in the case above, bet either on Even or on High.
Progression: up 1u as you lose, down 1u as you win
I favor this one progression: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10,12,14. Go back down in the same order as you win.
Remember, you're not betting until a serie stops.
Whether you win or lose, you stop and look for another series to stop.
This is a bit slow. You will average about 20 units per 100 spins.
Quote from: Carsch on Sep 11, 01:12 AM 2010
Itââ,¬â,,¢s simple. Someone sent me the basis of this idea, Iââ,¬â,,¢m just expanding it.
After a series of letââ,¬â,,¢s say, R or B, O or E, or H & L stops, place ONE bet on the opposite of last. In other words, youââ,¬â,,¢ll be betting that the series will continue after the break up.
Ex: RRR..Bââ,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦.after you wait for the series to stop, then you bet on Red
Ex: HH..Lââ,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦.place ONE bet on High
Ex: OEOOOOO..E.....................bet on Odd
Here is the thing; you wonââ,¬â,,¢t be betting on just one EC. You will be betting on any EC that ends its series.
Example: 12,22,36,5ââ,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦Ã¢â,¬Â¦..after no. 5 shows up, bet on Even or High.
From my tests, I found out itââ,¬â,,¢s best not to bet on two ECs at the same time. So, as in the case above, bet either on Even or on High.
Progression: up 1u as you lose, down 1u as you win
I favor this one progression: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10,12,14. Go back down in the same order as you win.
Remember, you're not betting until a serie stops.
Whether you win or lose, you stop and look for another series to stop.
This is a bit slow. You will average about 20 units per 100 spins.
Thanx for sharing Carsch :thumbsup:
Wasn't this the boffins bet? But they flat bet .... And it failed.
Hi Carsch, Blood Angel
Thanks for posting. Indeed I think this was the FIRST PART of the bet sold by the boffins on their site which can be viewed in the archive:
link:://web.archive.org/web/ (link:://web.archive.org/web/)*/link:://:.boffinsden.com
(by the way, notice how similar to another familiar site we all know about)
Anyhow, another idea is to play as you outlined but only if you win the bet @1u then next time bet @2u (the chip played + the chip won) - but if you lose the first bet @1u then stay @1u.
If you win the bet @2u - then immediately revert to bet @1u for the next bet.
So to recap - only increase to 2 after a win.
Thanks,
A.
Quote from: Blood Angel on Sep 11, 05:35 AM 2010
Wasn't this the boffins bet? But they flat bet .... And it failed.
Hey Guys,
Please forgive me for interupting this thread for a moment.
Does anyone remember a post on another forum by a guy who spun this very interesting yarn about being a roulette dealer (or maybe a player) and a guy started telling him about being in a threesome or foursome of players who played a winning bet which later turned out to be, I think, the boffins bet. I think each one played one of the ECs. They supposedly won thousands and travled all over the world. To join the group you had to pay $25,000.
He didn't buy into the group, but after falling on hard times, he met the same fellow again at a casino down in Australia and finally joined them and lived happily ever after. Or something like that.
Does that ring a bell for anyone?
George
Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 11, 04:49 AM 2010
thanks for sharing Carsch :thumbsup:
After more testing last night, it didn't do so good for me. :(
Anyway, someone at the GG board tells me that the longest losing streak for this method is 9 in a row. However, that is only when playing one EC selection. Well, if by playing it the way i posted it in here, which includes changing one EC to another, if in the middle of a progression an EC selection is about to end a losing streak, and i switch to a different EC selection that is about to start a losing streak, then i could bust easily. That's probably what happened last night with my other test.
Quote from: Carsch on Sep 11, 02:02 PM 2010
After more testing last night, it didn't do so good for me. :(
Anyway, someone at the GG board tells me that the longest losing streak for this method is 9 in a row. However, that is only when playing one EC selection. Well, if by playing it the way I posted it in here, which includes changing one EC to another, if in the middle of a progression an EC selection is about to end a losing streak, and I switch to a different EC selection that is about to start a losing streak, then I could bust easily. That's probably what happened last night with my other test.
Ah, thats no good
Are you gonna continue to Test this ? Or call it a day ?
Cheers :thumbsup:
Quote from: Blood Angel on Sep 11, 05:35 AM 2010
Wasn't this the boffins bet? But they flat bet .... And it failed.
I have no idea. Someone sent me the the original simple way of playing it. I just expanded on the idea by adding a different progression and alternating where and when to bet.
Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 11, 02:04 PM 2010
Ah, that's no good
Are you gonna continue to Test this ? Or call it a day ?
Cheers :thumbsup:
Done with it. I have other methods and ides to test. :)
Quote from: GLC on Sep 11, 01:41 PM 2010
He didn't buy into the group, but after falling on hard times, he met the same fellow again at a casino down in Australia and finally joined them and lived happily ever after. Or something like that.
Does that ring a bell for anyone?
George
LoL That sounds good to me. Hmmm, now I may want to investigate more on this method. ::)
Quote from: GLC on Sep 11, 01:41 PM 2010
Does anyone remember a post on another forum by a guy who spun this very interesting yarn about being a roulette dealer (or maybe a player) and a guy started telling him about being in a threesome or foursome of players who played a winning bet which later turned out to be, I think, the boffins bet. I think each one played one of the ECs.
Ah, now that rings something. Individual progressions on each ECs. Yep, that's right. I shall test this one again. ;D
I'll test with your suggested betting method. A. Thanks ;)
Hmm, i'm actually working on a similar betting method, A. Well, I just bet 2 units. At any loss, I come down to 1u and stay there till a win and then go back to 2 units bet................something like that.
Quote from: Carsch on Sep 11, 02:16 PM 2010
Ah, now that rings something. Individual progressions on each ECs. Yep, that's right. I shall test this one again. ;D
I'll test with your suggested progression as well. A. Thanks ;)
Carsch,
You might check out Atlantis' post under NOTEPAD on EC's. It's very similar.
G.
Quote from: GLC on Sep 11, 02:21 PM 2010
Carsch,
You might check out Atlantis' post under NOTEPAD on EC's. It's very similar.
G.
I'll do that, G. Thx
Quote from: atlantis on Sep 11, 06:28 AM 2010
Hi Carsch, Blood Angel
Thanks for posting. Indeed I think this was the FIRST PART of the bet sold by the boffins on their site which can be viewed in the archive:
link:://web.archive.org/web/ (link:://web.archive.org/web/)*/link:://:.boffinsden.com
(by the way, notice how similar to another familiar site we all know about)
I just found this system (Boffins) posted at this site. Interesting. I'll investigate. ;)
link:://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/boffins-bet/ (link:://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/boffins-bet/)
I tweaked it and it works! Make 2 bets (A & B system) but separate accounts. Progression: Win -1 unit, loss +1 unit.
A system/ If RRB bet next R; If BBR bet next B
B system/ If BBR bet next R; If RRB bet next B
The systems balance itself and the progression makes the salary. Example:
B R A B
9 - -
18 -1 +1
8
23 +2 -1
31
31
11
7
7 -1 +2
32
15
1 +2 -1
24
10
13
3
27 -1 +2
28
17 -2 +1
31
10
7
25 -3 +1
13
10 -4 +1
10
0
3
33 +5 -1
23
5
15
26 -4 +2
18
31 +5 -3
2
12
18 -4 +4
and so on... You play only one bet after color change (all 3 EC). I tested 200 spins and both won. B +20 units and R +26 units. It works excellent on choppy tables.
Hermes
Interesting that you combined both A & B :thumbsup:
Indeed. It seems Goofy but intresting.
We don t have to bet on both colours ,we just have to bet the deference,because 0 will kill us
Quote from: Jordan on Sep 12, 01:27 PM 2010
Indeed. It seems Goofy but intresting.
We don't have to bet on both colours ,we just have to bet the deference,because 0 will kill us
You have a point there. ;D
It is losing
Quote from: Jordan on Sep 12, 01:27 PM 2010
Indeed. It seems Goofy but intresting.
We don't have to bet on both colours ,we just have to bet the deference,because 0 will kill us
Not where I play.Thats why am call FLAT_
It is not losing you are losing Jordan. That's big difference. I was thinking about differential betting like Jordan proposal but it performs OK the original way. On Euro roulette is zero no big deal. One loss who cares.
We don't bet colors we bet the behavior of them = streaks / chops. Color is not important but streak or chop is important factor. They balance faster than colors.
Hermes
Differential betting is the way to go. It is exactly the same. If a zero does come out, you are saved. Anyway, I have tried this, and it is just as good as anything I have ever known. Heremes tweak of course.
Look, you will never beat the house edge with even chances. If you can better predict when wins and losses are coming, then a money management program can turn to good fortunes.
The way here, with Hermes teak, pits streaking trends versus changing trends. As long as wins and losses are more predictable, we have a winner. Time will tell.