You know the principal of 1/3 and the eight patterns.
Now you always get repeats of does clustering patterns and there is always sleeping patterns.
I know how you can bet for repeats, imbalance using 14 steps or 4 level staking plan. (Maybe GLC can solve that progression) ...
Betting against that each pattern would have one show each.
1. RRR
2. RBR
3. RRB
4. RBB
5. BBB
6. BRB
7. BBR
8. BRR
I know that the probability for each side to show once during one cycle is very rare.
If you get lady luck on your side you might play one year with out a total loss.
You can also reduce the 14 steps into 11 steps or 3 levels.
One attack mode that capitalize and one recover mode.
If some one wants to know i can describe that charting method and algorithm covering the clustering.
It is pretty clever as there is a total of 24 trails.
Please, Teach!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 26, 12:08 PM 2013
Please, Teach!
+1
count me in too
always want to learn more from you ego
+2 duo
I'm defo in toooooooooo!
[reveal]count me in[/reveal]
I will wrap this up tomorrow ...
CHeers
+3 im in:)
+4 !!!!
Thanks a lot!!
agesta
Quote from: ego on Apr 26, 01:50 PM 2013
I will wrap this up tomorrow ...
CHeers
I'd be very interested Ego, but please preach to the st.upid (I include my self in that club). Dont assume I will know certain things without explaination.
Thanks for being a sharer!! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Turner on Apr 26, 02:24 PM 2013
I'd be very interested Ego, but please preach to the st.upid (I include my self in that club). don't assume I will know certain things without explaination.
Thanks for being a sharer!! :thumbsup:
+1
on both counts ;)
I love to learn :thumbsup:
+5
I want to know more about it
+6, i'm in too... :D
+7 from France !
@Roulettefan,
Quand est-ce que tu dors? ;D
@normy
jamais je recherche le secret depuis 25 ans !
je dormirais quand je l aurais trouvé c'est a dire jamais LOL
c etait cool de parler avec toi
a bientot
Me too! I'd love to test it out! :)
Me apunto! Cuenta conmigo! :thumbsup:
I have to do this in steps to explain the algorithm that cover the clustering of 24 trails / 8 patterns
The steps are more then 14 due towards a miscalculating.
Now for a moment lets forget about colours.
Then there only exist four formations.
1. XXX
2. X0X
3. XX0
4. 0XX
Now if you see XXX then you will bet once that the formation will repeat.
That means when you see X or 0 you play for a repeat XX or 00.
That is one bet.
Now if you fail you will have two different patterns.
For example XXX XOX.
Then if the third pattern start with XX or 00 you play for XXX or 000
If not and the third pattern start with X0 or 0X you play for X0X or 0X0.
That is two bets.
Assume our bets loss, then we have three formations present.
For example XXX XOX XXO.
Then there is one formation left 0XX.
So after next show you place two bets to prevent that pattern to show.
That is four bets.
This is how you prevent four formation to have one show each during one cycle of four.
Now to colours.
Now if you see red, then you bet against red three times.
If you lose you lost your first level.
Then you bet that the four formation will not show once each as i describe above.
That is the second level.
Its a total of 7 bets.
If you lose then you have for example.
RRR
RBR
RRB
RBB
Now the third stage is to prevent that the next four black formation will have a show each.
So next you would bet red four times and that is the third level.
If you lose then you would have this results.
RRR
RBR
RRB
RBB
B
B
B
B
Now the next and last stage is as i describe above with one exception.
You have to place 5 bets for the last stage/level that there will be no repeating formation/pattern.
So there is a total of 16 steps that you can reduce to 13 steps if you skip the first level.
That to prevent a pattern of 24 trails to show.
1. RRR
2. RBR
3. RRB
4. RBB
5. BBB
6. BRB
7. BBR
8. BRR
Questions ?
1 2 1
1 1 1 L
2 2 2 W
2 2 2 L
1 1 2 W
1 2 1 L
2 2 2 W
2 1 2 L
2 2 1 L
1 1 1 W
1 1 1 L W
1 2 2 L
1 1 1 L
2 2 2
1 2 2 W
1 2 1 L
1 2 2 L
2 2 2 W
1 1 2 W
2 1 1 W
2 1 2 L
2 1 1 L
1 2 2 W
2 2 1 W
2 2 2 L
1 1 2 W
2 1 1 W
1 1 1 W
1 2 2 L L
1 2 2 L W
1 1 2 L
2 1 1
2 2 1 L
1 1 2 W
2 2 1 W
1 1 2 W
2 2 2 W
1 2 2 L
2 1 1 W
2 1 1 L W
2 1 1 L
2 2 1 L
2 2 1
1 1 2 W
1 1 1 L L
1 2 1 L L
1 1 1 L W
1 2 1
2 1 1 W
1 2 2 W
1 1 1 L
1 2 2 L
2 1 1 W
1 1 2 W
1 1 2 L W
1 2 2 L
1 2 1 L
1 1 1
2 2 2 W
1 1 1 W
1 2 1 L
2 1 2 W
2 1 1 L
2 1 2 L
1 2 2 W
2 1 2 W
1 1 2 W
1 1 2 L
2 2 1 W
1 2 2 W
1 1 2 L L
1 1 2 L W
1 2 2 L
I would try this - I'm trying hard to learn it but confess to be a little baffled so far... I just simply do not get it as of yet. I've noticed with certain systems it can take me a little while to figure out properly - this is one of those, I think - but then that's probably just me after a late night drinking.
Quote from: ego on Apr 27, 05:01 AM 2013
1 2 1
1 1 1 L
2 2 2 W
2 2 2 L why is here a L? if i got correctly we get 2 2 and we bet for the pattern to continue - we bet 2 - correct?
1 1 2 W why is here a W? if we get 1 1 we bet for 1 again?
thanks for your explanation
slowly trying to get it though
Am more then 50 years in this buss. and believe me am learning something new almost on daily basis,especially playing only in B&M casinos,meeting all sort of players,exchanging ideas,sometimes watching
player in a winning streak,traying to read his play,...-SO I'M ALWAYS READY TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW......My hat down to you Ego that you finally decided it....as all those years you were doing same things but let
the reader do hard work....similar I was doing with posting my ideas without final.....let em do some work
and find the unswers.Maybe unfair but how otherwise to become a serious,or pro player...without hard work
one can never come there.
Quote from: soggett on Apr 27, 08:46 AM 2013
thanks for your explanation
slowly trying to get it though
Sorry, but read again.
First level you bet there will not be four in a row with same colour.
Second level you bet there will be at least one repeating formation/patterns.
Then if you lose, then you move up to level three and four.
Level one will hit most of times with level two.
Third level and last level will be very rare.
Now i try to explain again.
When you are up half of what you risk in total you apply regression with lower values.
That way you can not lose.
If not lady luck strike you at the beginning.
Lets say i have Red.
Then i don't want four red in a row.
That is first level with three bets.
That part is easy.
But lets say you lose and would play for one repeat of the formations/patterns.
Then it looks like this.
R
R
R
R
Now you wait for the first pattern/formation to show when you are charting.
RB
R
R
R
Next ...
RBR
R
R
R
Now if RBR will repeat then there has to be a black next, that is one bet.
RBR
RRB
R
R
The bet lost so now we have to show of two different formations/patterns.
Next we will bet that one of does two will repeat, that is also only one bet.
RBR
RRB
RBB
R
We lose again and have three different formations/patterns that show.
Now RRR is the only pattern left, the missing formations/pattern that would make each one have a show.
So now you bet black twice to prevent that to happen.
That is a total of four bets.
That is the two first clustering betting levels.
RBR
RRB
RBB
RRR
Assume all have a show each then you have to move to the third level.
RBR
RRB
RBB
RRR
B
B
B
B
Then you place four bets to prevent black to show four times in a row and start over with the algorithm and the charting method.
Any questions ...
Quote from: ego on Apr 27, 11:57 AM 2013
Any questions ...
--No questions from my side,as am with you ok.....will only drink it alone....others ask questions /barmen for
a drink....lol/if any of your glasses are empty,or rather if you don't grasp it.
I'll have a rum and diet coke with a twist of lime, please!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 27, 12:45 PM 2013
I'll have a rum and diet coke with a twist of lime, please!
Nice Sam I go for a Kentucky straight bourbon (Jim B), no ice, just some water added! Should not be used cold, as the taste is best at room temp.
I'll go Vodka & coke on the rocks please..........
or
Nice glass of Chateauneuf-du-pap 2010 or thereabouts!
(Defo Room temp.)
Quote from: ego on Apr 27, 05:01 AM 2013
2 2 1
1 1 2 W
1 1 1 L L shouldn't here be LW? I get the first L - the four 1's but the second is we are beting for a repeat of the pattern abouve so we bet 1 and it wins
1 2 1 L L
1 1 1 L W
getting the hang of it
Think I got all except the above question - please have patience with us
soggett
You're a good one to learn things and then further explain. I'd love to see your condensed version of this puppy.
What about a progression? Does this flat bet?
Sam
Quote from: Chrisbis on Apr 27, 01:39 PM 2013
I'll go Vodka & coke on the rocks please..........
or
Nice glass of Chateauneuf-du-pap 2010 or thereabouts!
(definitely Room temp.)
Orange juice....I give up drinking :-[
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 27, 01:59 PM 2013
soggett
You're a good one to learn things and then further explain. I'd love to see your condensed version of this puppy.
What about a progression? Does this flat bet?
Sam
about the progression I'm not sure - he hasn't said yet
from what I gather
lvl 1 we bet against a 4 in a row
so
R comes we bet black:
R next bet black
R next bet black
B - win, next bet red (betting against 4 B in a row now)
B next bet red
R win, next bet black (betting against 4 R in a row now)
and so on
when we lose and get 4 of the same then we go to lvl 2
so for instance
R
R
R
R we lost now we wait for first pattern
ie
R B R
R - now we bet here B for our pattern to repeat itself (that's why there are LW or LL in egos example - betting lvl 2)
R
R
now if win great, if lose we will have either RRR or RRB pattern
lets say we get RRR
so we have
RBR
RRR
R
R
then we wait for either a RR or RB to know which pattern to bet for
if B comes we bet for R, if R comes we bet for R - we lose to patterns RBB and RRB
lets say RBB comes
now we have
RBR
RRR
RBB
R
there is only 1 more pattern available - RRB
so our bets are B then R
if we lose that we go to lvl 3
ego please tell me if I got it right
what I don't know is how he fills the lines
2 2 1
1 2 1
when we get a win on the red 1
Quote from: Turner on Apr 27, 02:01 PM 2013
Orange juice....I give up drinking :-[
Cause you become aware that you can't beat roulette/or any other game there/with having a beer in
front of you/instead of chips....lol
Quote from: teo on Apr 27, 02:15 PM 2013
Cause you become aware that you can't beat roulette/or any other game there/with having a beer in
front of you/instead of chips....LoL
Deeper than that my old friend.....because you cant beat anything with a beer in front of you :thumbsup:
soggett
OK, I'm up to snuff on it. Now--the big question--what do you do when you lose?
To me, it is obvious this would never work as a flat bet. And if you use a Martingale, it would go through the roof. It would be very easy to lose ten in a row.
Of course, ego speaks of a 16 step something. Don't know what.
This makes me want to start a thread.........
Sam
I''ll take the strongest drink you have please : )
Many thanks ego, I will get my head around this one, hopefully soon : )
Quote from: ego on Apr 27, 11:50 AM 2013
When you are up half of what you risk in total you apply regression with lower values.
That way you can not lose.
If not lady luck strike you at the beginning.
Hi Ego,
Thanks for a great post!
Can you explain further please:
(1) What progression would you suggest
(2) How to apply regression with lower values (can you provide example)?
B27
Well there is much better way to play then this one, is just i think it is pretty cool that you can avoid 24 trails with 15 attempts or 12 attempts.
I think that is correct, it get fuzzy in my head some times.
Well if you skip the first three bets, the first level.
Then you have level 234 left with 4 attempts each and that is 12.
I assume 12 step fibo would cut it.
1 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 or you could win back half the progression with the last step risking less.
When you build your progression, then you look at total and divide it by 50% ...
Then you have your win goal.
Next if you reach 50% win goal you can play with chips with half the value, then you operate with winnings.
That is the main idea.
But i don't recommend this way of play.
I just think it was cool that i could reduce the attempts to 15 betting against 24 trails.
Quote from: ego on Apr 28, 07:30 AM 2013
Well there is much better way to play then this one, is just i think it is pretty cool that you can avoid 24 trails with 15 attempts or 12 attempts.
Thanks Ego - which is the better way?
I wish I could find that post where ego says he does NOT play roulette.
I think I said then and I'll say it again: That's like Dr. Spock, the baby doc, telling all those yuppies how to raise their children when he himself had none. Folks always listened to the wrong Spock!
Wow! That was close to brilliant and I'm still asleep.
Sam
RR
BB
RB
BR
Hermes :twisted: :girl_to: