Close to 95oo spins test live thse are the results
spins
480 -5 losses
300 -1
200- 5
200 --0
300 -5
400 -2
481 --12 the worst one out of 9500
480 -1
422- 6
407 -5
368- 7
456 -6
485 -9
422 -7
417 -6
465 -6
337-- 2
503- 5
448 -8 this was 3 in a row the only one I will explaine later on this.
461 -5
535 -5
510- 2
512- 7
223- 2 thes are vthe results
now where the bet lost 3 in a row means when the trigger came I lost my bet a total of 9 in a row not bad for 9500 spins.
now the bet very simple trigger= BB now bet for 3 spins on black it will usally shows up within 3 spins if any time you hit stop ,and wait for another, double BB
the losses in the results ex. 512 the losses were 7 means not in a row in total when the trigger came I would lose to 3 reds I hope that's clear .
ex b
r
r
b
b =trigger bet black
r
b wins
b = t.
b wins
b do not bet until it breaks the seq.
r
b
b now betok that's it, progression 1-2-3 or 124 stop then try to recover. I will stop at +10 and never go below +3 if I hit a bad run then when I'm +3 I stop. all the best WARRIOR
Thanx for Sharing WARRIOR :thumbsup:
I see your losses.
What were your Wins ? And Profit on Turnover ?
Cheers Bud
Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 12, 01:15 PM 2010
Thanks for Sharing WARRIOR :thumbsup:
I see your losses.
What were your Wins ? And Profit on Turnover ?
Cheers Bud '
EX . 442 SPINS 41 TRIGGER' I WOULD LOSE 15 points wins 26 units profit the only 2 bad ones were the 12 losses and the 9 in a row session but the wins outweigh the losses but i will try this for real money and put it to a live test and i will let you know what my real wins and losses are ok warrior.
How many wins did you have in 9500 Spins ?
Do you prefer 1-2-4 ?
Ok, look forward to your next post ! :thumbsup:
Warrior,
here's the rx script you asked for.
I made it based on the rules you gave me:
It's very simple, the first trigger we never play,
I go in in on the second trigger,
the trigger is RBB
then I play for a black for 3 spins but I want the first to lose
RBB RRR that's A LOSS
on the 2nd trigger of RBB THEN I PLAY FOR 3
if I lose I wait for the next
it only went once to the third level
I use a marty for the total of six spins
graph is from esoisto's 6000 dublin bet spins
I went back to playing this the other night did very well still holds up,im surprized no one has tried this.
Did you try it betting on red too?
Ar any other EC?
yes it works the same.
I like this idea. I've been flat betting against the last color to hit until RR or BB hits. Then bet that color with a 1,2,3, progression. Works good so far.
Quote from: crownroyal on Sep 02, 11:48 AM 2011
I like this idea. I've been flat betting against the last color to hit until RR or BB hits. Then bet that color with a 1,2,3, progression. Works good so far.
thats intersting i guess you can pass the time with flat betting.
This will almost never exceed 4 spins to hit the Target. So you may use a 1 1 2 4 progression.
You can even catch a R/B Run by consider ie, RR-R as another -RRsequence .
/M
Quote from: Maan on Sep 04, 07:26 AM 2011
This will almost never exceed 4 spins to hit the Target. So you may use a 1 1 2 4 progression.
You can even catch a R/B Run by consider ie, RR-R as another -RRsequence .
/M
YES IN 16000 SPINS only once it lost to the third level.
Quote from: warrior on Sep 05, 12:30 AM 2011
YES IN 16000 SPINS only once it lost to the third level.
Warrior, I don't understand what you mean "lost to the third level."
Are you referring to the session where it lost 1-2-3, then next trigger and it lost again 1-2-3, then next trigger and it lost again 1-2-3, then next trigger and it won within 3 bets? I notice that you have -8, but to lose three 3's in a row would be 9. Was that a typo or am I missing something.
If that's the case, can't we use a more aggressive bet progression like 1-3-7 and just continue to bet this way win or lose?
Have you tested it with more than 3 steps, like 4 or 5 or 6 step marty?
GLC
Quote from: GLC on Sep 05, 01:28 AM 2011
Warrior, I don't understand what you mean "lost to the third level."
Are you referring to the session where it lost 1-2-3, then next trigger and it lost again 1-2-3, then next trigger and it lost again 1-2-3, then next trigger and it won within 3 bets? I notice that you have -8, but to lose three 3's in a row would be 9. Was that a typo or am I missing something.i think that was a typo ,but like i said on 512 spin 7 does not mean in a row, when the trigger came i lost to 3 reds 7 times with in those spins ,that's why i like to wait for the bet selection to lose the first one the go go in on the second and third level total of 6 ,so i do not meet the table limits.
If that's the case, can't we use a more aggressive bet progression like 1-3-7 and just continue to bet this way win or lose?
Have you tested it with more than 3 steps, like 4 or 5 or 6 step marty?
GLC
GLC yes the first trigger we never play EX. RB RRR this is a loss we wait for this to happen ,the second trigger RBB RRB wins third spin ,it only went past the third once, ex.RRB RRR 1ST TRIGGER RBB RRR LOST 3 RBB RRR LOST 6 TOTAL OF 9 IF you were to play all the triggers ,i have played this table to table in a casino we have 5 where i go, i just look for this,on the ex i gave in my first post 512 spins 7 losses does not mean in a row means the trigger came and i lost to 3 reds it hapen 7 times, that's why i like to wait for the first loss then bet the next 2 levels ,6 spins after the triggers so i don't reach the table limits ,hope this helps WARRIOR
Warrior, Can you explain your progression? I assume you use one since you mentioned staying below the table limits.
Quote from: GLC on Sep 05, 11:35 AM 2011
Warrior, Can you explain your progression? I assume you use one since you mentioned staying below the table limits.if it does lose more then six 1 2 4 8 16 32 or what ever one chooses.
or an up and pull or pyramid ex.5 5 10 15 10.
Why just black outcomes, wouldn't any even chance work?
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 05, 05:53 PM 2011
Why just black outcomes, wouldn't any even chance work?
yes all even chances ,you could play both red and black with 2 separate BR.WHEN I WAS TESTING THIS I ONLY DID BLACK because i new if it worked out it would work for all even chances.
why not use a separate labby for all 3?
Warrior,
I see they made a movie about you.
It looks like it's going to be exciting.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: GLC on Sep 06, 11:35 PM 2011
Warrior,
I see they made a movie about you.
It looks like it's going to be exciting.
:thumbsup:
i am a professor of mixed martial arts in real life for the past 25 years ,my body feels it time to retire.
Quote from: warrior on Sep 07, 08:01 AM 2011
i am a professor of mixed martial arts in real life for the past 25 years ,my body feels it time to retire.
Sounds like some of the old guys. Randy Couture, Frank Shamrock, Matt Hughes etc...
The young guns are pretty tough.
Quote from: GLC on Sep 07, 07:09 PM 2011
Sounds like some of the old guys. Randy Couture, Frank Shamrock, Matt Hughes etc...
The young guns are pretty tough.
Very tough its a different game these days,you have to be always hungry if that goes away you lose.
Quote from: warrior on Sep 05, 10:14 PM 2011
yes all even chances ,you could play both red and black with 2 separate BR.WHEN I WAS TESTING THIS I ONLY DID BLACK because i new if it worked out it would work for all even chances.
It's a good idea to wait for a virtual loss before betting for two wins in a row.
example: b,b,r,r,r (virtual loss) then play for real
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 08, 09:24 AM 2011
It's a good idea to wait for a virtual loss before betting for two wins in a row.
example: b,b,r,r,r (virtual loss) then play for real
Yesterday did not lose once in 1 hour of playing.
"Yesterday did not lose once in 1 hour of playing."-Warrior
Congratulations.
It is not uncommon to have two losses in a row (ie: b,b,r,r,r b,b,r,r,r)
Seems like hit and run is a good tactic with this one.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 09, 10:19 AM 2011
"Yesterday did not lose once in 1 hour of playing."-Warrior
Congratulations.
It is not uncommon to have two losses in a row (ie: b,b,r,r,r b,b,r,r,r)
Seems like hit and run is a good tactic with this one.
we have 4 tables at our casino ,third levell loss only once in 16000 spins.
i played it my own way yesterday , was very consistant
Congratulations to you Warrior, Tomla21
I am saying it is better imo as a hit and run, or alternating with another method.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 09, 04:30 PM 2011
Congratulations to you Warrior, Tomla21
I am saying it is better in my opinion as a hit and run, or alternating with another method.
yes it is good as a hit and run.
Quote from: warrior on Sep 09, 10:41 AM 2011
we have 4 tables at our casino ,third levell loss only once in 16000 spins.
This is amazing warrior, however I cannot grasp the method................
Could you briefly explain the method which only had one loss in 16000 spins.............
Thanks
Quote from: warrior on Sep 10, 09:32 AM 2011
yes it is good as a hit and run.
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ooooorrrr, if you want to grind it out, play with a labby similar to what fripper posted....you could be able to get around 10u for every 400+ spins
vundarosa
Quote from: amk on Sep 11, 07:04 PM 2011
This is amazing warrior, however I cannot grasp the method................
Could you briefly explain the method which only had one loss in 16000 spins.............
Thanks
Simple we wait for the first loss,TRIGGER =RBB RRR 1st loss, next trigger RBB we bet for 3 spins for BLACK to come in ,if we lose example trigger RBB RRR we wait for the next trigger betting in total 6 spins ,3rd trigger RBB RBR WON on 2nd spin,in other words it looks like this .
T. RBB RRR RBB RRR RBB RRR this is 3 levels of losses so i reduced it to only 2 levels betting 6 spins in total ,it lost 0nce to all 3 levells meaning i lost to 6 spins only once because i did not play the first trigger,hope that helps.
Quote from: vundarosa on Sep 11, 07:47 PM 2011
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ooooorrrr, if you want to grind it out, play with a labby similar to what fripper posted....you could be able to get around 10u for every 400+ spins
vundarosa
It would be intersting if some one could code this idea with a labby .
Just played a real money section with a labby starting at 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
ended at +10 in 96 spins
Highest drawdown: -7
Highest Bet: 4u
vundarosa
Quote from: vundarosa on Sep 13, 07:06 PM 2011
Just played a real money section with a labby starting at 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
ended at +10 in 96 spins
Highest drawdown: -7
Highest Bet: 4u
vundarosa
Nice one :thumbsup:
:-*
Quote from: warrior on Sep 14, 10:38 AM 2011
Nice one :thumbsup:
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i've got two more real money sections with similar results but i consider them to be easy sections. In my testing i've found tougher ones with -77 drawdown and 30u bet (the worst but which i suspect still does not paint the real picture. But as i'm manual testing from past spins, it will take me a while to get a good picture of how solid this can be). Also, most sections i tested end up in with +10u in about 100-200 spins.
For now i'm playing with a buy-in of 100u and will see how that holds and have started to use 2 even chances
vundarosa
whats the progression 1, 2, 4 thanks
Quote from: Tomla021 on Sep 14, 11:58 PM 2011
what's the progression 1, 2, 4 thanks
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yes 1,2,4 or 1,2,3. That's the way warrior introduced his system.
I am playing/testing with a labby fripper's way link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6451.msg60743#msg60743 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6451.msg60743#msg60743) and without waiting for a loss as warrior recommends.
vundarosa
This would be interesting progression,i have not tested this but it could work on my BLACKS SYSTEM ALWAYS with the TRIGGER, here goes.
levell #1 124
#2 236
#3 348
#4 4510
#5 5612
#6 6714
#7 7816
there you you have it wait for the trigger then begin your first levell, if you lose the first 3 spins ,go to the second levell ,if there is a win stay at that levell until your in profit OR EVEN ,if you lose keep going through the levells until your in profit or even ,then start over from the first levell ,GLC IF YOU READ THIS GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHT ON THIS .
thats a pretty interesting progression for a mini marty
Quote from: warrior on Sep 16, 12:20 PM 2011
This would be interesting progression,i have not tested this but it could work on my BLACKS SYSTEM ALWAYS with the TRIGGER, here goes.
levell #1 124
#2 236
#3 348
#4 4510
#5 5612
#6 6714
#7 7816
there you you have it wait for the trigger then begin your first levell, if you lose the first 3 spins ,go to the second levell ,if there is a win stay at that levell until your in profit OR EVEN ,if you lose keep going through the levells until your in profit or even ,then start over from the first levell ,GLC IF YOU READ THIS GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHT ON THIS .
Warrior my friend,
First of all, nice system.
Here are my thoughts on your progression. Every progression has it's strong points and it's weak points. Your progression's strong point is that it keeps your bets low. That is good. It means that we can go through a lot of levels without getting too deep in the hole.
The weak point is that after the first bet, you're only recovering 1 unit per win. That's the trade-off for a safe progression. You will need a bet selection that tends to hit on the 1st bet often. Otherwise, if you happen to lose a few levels in a row, you can be down there for a while.
Having said that, I think that you have a system here that gives us a very good chance to win every time we go to the casino. That's what I like.
Will we lose every now and then? Of course. Ask LuckoftheIrish. He has fetched us all up to speed. Unless he's just unlucky.
I don't think JL will agree with all his statements.
We'll each have to choose for ourselves how we digest his analysis of the game.
LoL,
GLC
i tried the with a simple labby on 200 spins and it ended up very nicely......short test but i will probably test further
Today this brought me to the third level, took a while for my trigger, the wheel was on her period today all red and only 6 blacks in 30 spins :sad2:
Nice method Warrior.
Lets see if i grasp this correct as i did test some similiar methods before.
One cycel using red alone is as follows.
1. RRR
2. RBR
3. RRB
4. RBB
If i understand it correct so do you aim for 3 in 4 after your trigger to hit RBR RRB RBB
Cheers
Trigger RBB RRR this is a loss on next trigger RBB BET BLACK for 3 spins if you lose wait for next trigger attack again on black .
Very interesting bet selection.
This is how I would play this system:
Wait for two of same colour. Bet for repeat with 1 2 4. On loss wait for next trigger and bet 2 4 8 for 3 wins, then back to first progression. On loss end session. maximum loss 7+14=21. Play for 10 units. No loss start trigger.
Losses on my very limited testing come wide enough apart that 3 wins are possible long enough to recover from a loss. As long as winning sessions happen more than twice as often as losing ones, should do well.
Another slower way is, bet 1 1 2 step one and 2 4 8 ( twice ) step two, ending the session on a step two loss ( -18 ) or a +6.
Jeromin
Why is no one posting here any longer? Did it lose on the long term? If it''s a consistant winner we can't just throw this system away.
This is a very solid system in my experience
Quote from: Mudiru on Nov 07, 01:12 PM 2011
Why is no one posting here any longer? Did it lose on the long term? If it''s a consistant winner we can't just throw this system away.
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Mudiru,
i've been playing around with this system looking for a decent progression to make it work. So far i'm testing it with a labby but with it can be quite a grinder to even attain 10u.
vundarosa
There is only so many ways you can play an even money bet ,this was intended to be played with a marty waiting for the trigger,so your betting only 6 times in total after the first loss,any other progressions only slows down the process of loseing,if you are using these other prog. like fibo ,the tier one that i posted or any other one there is a lot of patience involved ,if you don't have it for get about it, to answer some ? if a 0 shows its counted as a loss,if you want to play continuously you will reach table limits on a marty,i like using this this bet from time to time never lost on it,I'm going to give you the one i use playing continuosly,very safe it does not reach table limits, depending on your base amount ,you have to be happy with a break even no matter what.
BASE BET 5 DOLLARS MIN BET ANY CASINO.
5
5
6
16
17
49
52
150
154
454
As you can see you play for a profit and a break even ,it can't get any simpler then that,min bet 5 max 500 on outs side of layout ,if you have the capital then you can also bet on the inside with the out side you have to do the math.Ther was only one loss in 16000 spins meaning it went to 9 only once ,this gives you 10 bets up to 454 dollars to break even.
Playing three 3 ECs in 200spins got on average +30u with max bets at 4u-7u and highest drawdown of -40u.
prog: UP AS YOU WIN. --> bet 1u and stay at 1u when losing till first hit. If at (-) then up to 2u. Only up the 1u in a win, if lose stay at same level. If lose then win, we're even for that level therefore stay at that level. If even or ahead drop to 1u
so
bet 1u loss
bet 1u loss
bet 1u win
bet 2u loss
bet 2u win
bet 2u loss
bet 2u loss
bet 2u win
bet 3u win........ and so forth
vundarosa
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btw,
during testing i had one sequence of +240spins where it gave me a drawdown of -130u and highest bet rose to 13u and it recovered...
vundarosa
:thumbsup:
anybody still playing this--it looks ideal for baccarat?
I have not played this for a while ,test it before playing baccarat.
I will---always do:)
thanks
I'll boil this down: RBB....bet for black for however many spins you can stand. BRR....do the same for red.
Why would RBB cause a B to come within four spins? Where is the logic?
Sam
Hi!
I came a cross this method a couple of Days ago and been trying to play it the best way.
I just played a session there i flatbetted the first 10 bet oppertunitys and after the first 10 bets i raised the unit size by 1 if down and stayed the same in profit or level and played this for 100 bets at most i reached 3 in progression.
Flatbet +2 units
With progression +8 units.
If i had played after a virtuel loss it had made Another 12 units, only 1 time i had a double loss like this
rbbrrrbbrrr
I Played 10 games like this
WWLLLWLLLL=-4 next 10 bets 2 units
WLWLLWLWWW=+4 next 10 bets 1 unit and so on
If i am in progression play and reach level or new high i will at once get back to play 1 unit even if it is after the first bet in my 10 line.
I Think this has something good!!
Agesta