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Title: Missing Sector
Post by: ignatus on May 16, 06:39 PM 2013
OK, moving on..... this should perhaps be in the "testing zone", but i publish this for everyone to try. Reason why i found this out, I have a statistical program STATA, I loaded some livespins, then divided the wheel into three parts and did three new variables according to those numbers it represented. Now, I could study the *patterns* if there was any? And, yes, I found a clear pattern... that this strategy is based on;


Missing Sector:

These numbers are the wheel divided into three equal parts. (see picture)



A: 2,4,6,13,15,17,19,21,25,27,32,34


B: 1,5,8,10,11,16,20,23,24,30,33,36


c: 0,3,7,9,12,14,18,22,26,28,29,31,35


What i found: -When two parts of the wheel hit, most of the time, or atleast very frequently the third, *missing sector* will hit. This event is very common according to my statistics. So...


How to play this? Wait for two different sectors to hit, and then bet for the third.


I was thinking flatbetting: Bet two times then STOP. Some losses must be accepted.


But in the long run, if this pattern is real, profits should add up.


I need help testing this one.


Thank you.












Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: speed on May 16, 06:48 PM 2013
Statistics say that the ball will land on the C sector more times than on the other two sectors (A,B) :))))
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: ignatus on May 16, 07:07 PM 2013
Quote from: speed on May 16, 06:48 PM 2013
Statistics say that the ball will land on the C sector more times than on the other two sectors (A,B) :) )))


Very funny? No. I'm playing this now .. LWWLWLWWLLLW +69u flatbetting. Is this just a coincidence or just "luck"? I don't think so?
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: ignatus on May 16, 07:12 PM 2013
LWWLWLWWLLLWWW 106u Flatbetting, so far...
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: agesta on May 17, 01:36 AM 2013
LWWWWWWLLLLLLLLWLLLL
+8 units
I will try with virtuel win after 2 losses
Agesta
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: agesta on May 17, 04:20 AM 2013
Hi!
No i have tried this with after 2 losses wait for a virtuel win.
WLWWWLL(vl,vl,vl,vl,vl,vl,vw),LL,(vl,vl,vl,vw)LL(vl,vw)LL(vl,vw),LWWWLWLWWW
+114 units
agesta
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: Turner on May 17, 04:27 AM 2013
Quote from: agesta on May 17, 04:20 AM 2013
Hi!
No i have tried this with after 2 losses wait for a virtuel win.
WLWWWLL(vl,vl,vl,vl,vl,vl,vw),LL,(vl,vl,vl,vw)LL(vl,vw)LL(vl,vw),LWWWLWLWWW
+114 units
agesta
Without wishing to insult anyones intellegence, of couse, these follow dozens patterns and all their horrors. It will sleep for 24 spins no different.
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: agesta on May 17, 04:53 AM 2013
LWLL(vl,vl,vl,vw)WWWLL(vl,vl,vw),WLL(vl,vw)W +60 units
instead of+36
Turner its just fun testing different ways and Watch
what can happen when you Changes things.
nothing else.
agesta
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: Skakus on May 17, 04:54 AM 2013
Quote from: Turner on May 17, 04:27 AM 2013
Without wishing to insult anyones intellegence, of couse, these follow dozens patterns and all their horrors. It will sleep for 24 spins no different.

At least someone around here has their brain switched to the ON position.
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: ignatus on May 17, 05:01 AM 2013
Quote from: Skakus on May 17, 04:54 AM 2013

At least someone around here has their brain switched to the ON position.


I didn't say no losses would happen. I said it was a pattern i found, studying some live spins in my statistical software. Now, Skakus and Turner. Sure it's good to be critical, but I only wished to *find out* if this pattern was real?.... and I said I needed help to find it out.


You can see for yourself (this pattern), from my statistics. it's saved in an .rtf file (viewed in wordpad)...anyway


Sectors are called here x y z.





Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: Ralph on May 17, 05:03 AM 2013
Statistics says all numbers will land about equal times in billions of spins, we use to get the same answers, answers published more than 100 years ago.


The point is if we hit in our spins, knowing the odds we get, making it almost impossible.
Write 99.999999% pay back is the same as write "We take your money soon or later".


I had a very bad numbers of runs, wich put me back 100000 fun. The only chance to recover, if I want to, is risking more.
Max bet on number five flat bet it for 376 spins  went at last plus. If we have the variance on our side, let it be big.
1/3 bet should never recover 100000 units.
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: ignatus on May 17, 05:34 AM 2013
Ok, thanks Ralph... "Statistics says all numbers will land about equal times in billions of spins" This statement says nothing against my findings, now two sectors hit. The third sector *will* in most cases hit within the next 3 spins... so? I didn't say it always will, but frequently enough, obviosly that we can take an advantage of this pattern, and make some profits ? I'd like if someone could run this in RouletteXtreme , and try larger number of live-spins to see if this can last...


I've been thinking now again how to play this. Now, I think 3 spins with a 1,2,3 progression then STOP. If a new sector hit during this bet, that new *missing sector* is bet. (Flatbetting seems to be hard?) I don't know. ideas how to play this the best way are welcome. But I will try this now.... 1,2,3 progression... and STOP. Losses must be accepted, yes, but again, if the pattern is real, we will see? Ok
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: ignatus on May 17, 05:52 AM 2013
Quote from: agesta on May 17, 04:20 AM 2013
Hi!
No i have tried this with after 2 losses wait for a virtuel win.
WLWWWLL(vl,vl,vl,vl,vl,vl,vw),LL,(vl,vl,vl,vw)LL(vl,vw)LL(vl,vw),LWWWLWLWWW
+114 units
agesta


Great, thanks.
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: Ralph on May 17, 06:04 AM 2013
Red and black fall equal times on NOZ, but that does not mean it will be every second spin. You can miss a sector 70 times in a row, it is like dozen bet.  Progressions and dozen is not at all the safest way you can play, and on  fair wheel the sectors it is about as bet on doz.
I think it has been attempts using three sectors million times before you start trying it.



I think smaller sectors will make it better, like three to five numbers. It is like bet on the track.


The variance is not to keep low on a wheel which not give the player odds over fair (You probably never find such a wheel).


The chance of hitting 12 straight up on NOZ is 1/3. What do you think is the odds of hitting one number i 12 spins?
Yes it is slight less, but you have the chance to win on more than one chip. The first lose allways minimum 11 chips.
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: ignatus on May 17, 06:35 AM 2013
Ok Ralph...


I played this live now at "Lucky Live Casino";



LLWLWWWLLLLWLLWLLLWWLLWWW +300u from this session, using progression for 12 numbers 1-1-2-3-4-6-9
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: Ralph on May 17, 07:22 AM 2013

Quote from: ignatus on May 17, 06:35 AM 2013
Ok Ralph...




I played this live now at "Lucky Live Casino";







LLWLWWWLLLLWLLWLLLWWLLWWW  300u from this session, using progression for 12 numbers 1-1-2-3-4-6-9




And you will lose more than that if a sector do not hit in 7 trials.


A wheel with zero will almost for sure make it tank.  I do not think you use it very long. The probability the wheel has bias is nil.


Can you get a few plus berfore the sector sleeps to long, you CAN win, we can allways with some luck!









Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: ignatus on May 17, 09:37 AM 2013
Quote from: Ralph on May 17, 07:22 AM 2013



And you will lose more than that if a sector do not hit in 7 trials.


A wheel with zero will almost for sure make it tank.  I do not think you use it very long. The probability the wheel has bias is nil.


Can you get a few plus berfore the sector sleeps to long, you CAN win, we can allways with some luck!


You got the file with livespins,(.rft, viewed in wordpad) and you can see the pattern for yourself. I didn't say it will ALWAYS win, but enough to make some profit....?
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: Ralph on May 17, 10:31 AM 2013
Quote from: ignatus on May 17, 09:37 AM 2013

You got the file with livespins,(.rft, viewed in wordpad) and you can see the pattern for yourself. I didn't say it will ALWAYS win, but enough to make some profit....?




There is no pattern, it is something we "see" , but it is not where.  Pls Google "Apophenia"!
Title: Re: Missing Sector
Post by: ignatus on May 17, 11:36 AM 2013
Quote from: Ralph on May 17, 10:31 AM 2013



There is no pattern, it is something we "see" , but it is not where.  please Google "Apophenia"!


There is NO SPOON!  :o ::) :P ...  ;D