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I'm thinking of making a software (in pascal) for this kind of bet. (see picture)


IF red 14 hits , 9 blacks are bet at the opposite side of the wheel.....


I did a short test too see which one worked the best, (Live-spins) and from this test "opposite last" seems the better option...



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I want to have your opinions on this before I make the effort to make a software for it, and if this strategy is Good/Bad ? I don't know.


Thanks

Its worth a try!


Why have U gone every other number (except for Zero!, don't know why U skipped Zero, when its just a another number on the wheel, and the only reason its Green, is because it does not pay out on outside bets (except for La Partage/En Prison))


I would group the nine numbers together, but have ready to move them around the wheel, like a cog, to take account of trending phases.


But well worth a testing software.

Alright, that will take some time. Perhaps finished tomorrow.

you can use this SOMETIMES, but not consistently. All patterns like this fail with time.

Quote from: iggiv on May 27, 02:42 PM 2013
you can use this SOMETIMES, but not consistently. All patterns like this fail with time.

ok then, how would the best variation be? First, is 9 numbers the right bet, I think 9 numbers is good, especially betting for R/B on the wheel, it will cover half the wheel.


Next, I can do a small variation on this bet. For an example:

RR-> bet Red
BB-> bet Black
RB-> bet Red
BR-> bet Black

Next, I can do a variation on betting half the wheel:

Follow last (IF one side of the wheel, bet same half)

or

Opposite last (IF one side of the wheel, bet other half) ?

Are these variations enough for this kind of bet? I CAN make a program in pascal for this, but that would take perhaps 2-3 days.

I'd like to have your opinions on this. Before I make the program

Thanks

This are my results from study of patterns, from Live-spins (o=opposite last half of the wheel) (s=same as last half of the wheel)


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So the best bet here would be *same as last*


IF opposite side of the wheel -> Bet would be opposite side of the wheel
IF same side of the wheel -> Bet would be same side of the wheel.


This would give most hitrate from this short study.

From the looks of your first example wait for two virtual
losses (opposite last), the bet for up to four times, flat-bet.

HEY IGNATUS
THIS IS MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING - EXCEPT I HAVE BEEN PLAYING OPPOSITE HOT COLOUR ON HOT HALF - THERE ARE LOADS OF DIFFERENT TRIGGERS THAT CAN BE USED FOR THIS TYPE OF BET - I THINK i HAVE FOUND A DESCENT TWO OR THREE TRIGGERS- I WILL NOT SHARE THESE YET - AS I WOULD LIKE OTHERS TO TEST AND SHARE THEIR IDEAS AS TO POSSIBLE STRONG TRIGGERS AND DONT WANT TO INFLUENCE IDEAS - CAUSE THEIR MAY BE A STRONGER TRIGGER I HAVE NOT REALIZED


SO FAR 3000 PLUS SPINS HIT RATE OF ABOUT 28 TO 29 PERCENT


LONGEST SLEEP IS BETWEEN 16 TO 20


BUT I FEEL THIS IS A STRONG BET -


I CHANGE BET AFTER 4 LOSSES - AND USING A STOP LOSS AFTER FOUR LOSSES WAIT FOR VIRTUAL WIN - ALTHOUGH DOES NOT MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IF NOT PLAYING WITH PROGRESSION -  DONT KNOW ABOUT A STOP LOSS YET - NEEDS MORE TESTING - 

I HAVE A SIMPLE TRACKER FOR THIS I MADE IN EXCEL - I AM DEBATING POSTING IT - CONSIDERING THE LACK OF FEEDBACK I HAVE RECEIVED IN THE PAST - BUT A STARTING POINT WOULD BE - USING ONE OF MY PREVIOUS ATTACHMENTS AND CHANGING THE INDEX FORMULA TO SUIT UR BET SELECTION - TAKES 5 MINS TO DO

That's great. Thanks


Well, i've started to code this now.


How the bet will look like.


(1) First of all it's a 9 numbers bet. (R/B as illustrated in pic, betting half the wheel)
(2) There are some variations to this bet, as suggested by iggiv.


These variations are:


(a) Red and Black variations:


RR-> bet Red
BB-> bet Black
RB-> bet Red
BR-> bet Black


(b) o=Opposite and s=Same as last side of the wheel variation:


oo->bet opposite
ss->bet same
so->bet same
os->bet opposite




This is what i figured, and this is how the program will be designed.


If there are any more ideas about this let me know.


Thank you

The Tracker is almost finished.


Now I only have to enter all numbers, have done 1/4 of all numbers now, that took me 1 ½ hour.


To code the formula for the bet took me 24h or so.. haha.. ;D

i Entered 50% of the numbers now, took me 2h. Will finish the tracker tomorrow. Last 50% of the number will take another 2h.


I did a test/preview of the tracker (with those numbers i had, from Live-spins): But this cannot give a fair picture.. I will do more testing when the tracker is finished....


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Expected hitrate for 9 numbers 9/37= 24%


So far, so good.


But more testing tomorrow, when the tracker is finished.


Cheers

The tracker if officially finished. But im totaly disappointed at it's preformance. (From Live spins):


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I must reconfigure the logic bet formula, and do more testing before I can release it. :/

QuoteExpected hitrate for 9 numbers 9/37= 24%
So far, so good.

QuoteThe tracker if officially finished. But I'm totaly disappointed at it's preformance

Ignatus, its sad to see you failing with almost everything you attempt, here's my last snippet of 'help' for you.

Random is constantly changing, it never repeats itself, events/happening will repeat but not at the same intervals/gaps, so in short random is a moving target, you cannot have a strict set of rules for a trigger nor can you have a strict set of rules for a progression MM.

Everything you have come up with so far is strictly mechanical, it wont work long term, even it it worked for a month at some point it will lose all profit and you will be back to where you started or worse still, behind where you started.

Good luck on your next invention for today and the ones you come up with tomorrow too LOL

ignatus try this, then 14 hits. bet blue ones

Quote from: biagle on May 29, 07:13 AM 2013
ignatus try this, then 14 hits. bet blue ones

:D :D :D :D :D :D

you could have told us you had the holy grail all along  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i've decided to release the tracker anyway, so you can test it more....




It took me 3 days to make this tracker.





My second preformace was little better(?)


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My Third Preformace test was best so far (from Live-spins):


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@Ignatus

how deep (in $â,¬Â£) is that 10 losses in a row?
Just wondered what the dip is.
Cheers

Quote from: soggett on May 29, 07:23 AM 2013

:D :D :D :D :D :D

you could have told us you had the holy grail all along  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

shhhhhh dont tell anybody

This is another version of the tracker; I turned the parameters upsidedown for betting on Red/Black:


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Playing with stoploss is a good idea. (and wait for virtual win)