I have from 4999 Fun reach over half a million. Which that with that "bankroll" I feel for running a try to get a million.
I have got a method which may do it. Let us see, it may takes month or years.
It is a known trick to show a fake BV balance, so I will show the history, which is not affected by fiddle with the fun account.
Much used by system seller, and T.Grant.
The fun account has a max of 5000, but if lost, you can get more. It is possible if you know the way to get a million in a fun account, therefore the history of play is needed to get some proof.
It is not space for more figures, maybe the account turn to zero after 999999.9
My balance is a close bit over half a million!
@ ralph
do you ever play a "live" roulette wheel or just RNG ??
Thanking you in advance...... :thumbsup:
O0
Quote from: ddarko on Jun 07, 09:59 AM 2013
@ ralph
do you ever play a "live" roulette wheel or just RNG ??
Thanking you in advance...... :thumbsup:
O0
I play most RNG online. sometimes I am BM, which need a diffrent play. At most 500 spins and lowest stake is 7 USD. Very different!
Quote from: Ralph on Jun 07, 10:09 AM 2013
I play most RNG online. sometimes I am BM, which need a diffrent play. At most 500 spins and lowest stake is 7 USD. Very different!
ok, I was just wondering......
Thxs for answering my question, makes a nice change compared to some other members here..... :thumbsup:
O0
Updating the play. Up to now not much problem, some downdrown, which is not any strange event in a long run of spins, the main is to come back.
If may calculations are right, it can not fail unless a number sleeps for more than 600 spins, and it is not sure it will fail then.
Update. The play hover at about the same point for the last 12000 spins, result a bit less than last update. Last ten days history almost no plus.
The play may turn at a break even play as it theoretical should. Will try to reach the last high at first step.
Long sessions will be stopped by the casino and if back then, the 10% becomes a bit more as recovery wins will be taxed.
Why don't you try to make a million with real money? That can inspire more people. Fun money game is like video game. One guy kills thousands of enemies.
Quote from: kingsroulette on Jun 16, 02:15 AM 2013
Why don't you try to make a million with real money? That can inspire more people. Fun money game is like video game. One guy kills thousands of enemies.
It is still a risky thing. If we allready got 200000+ real, I think it is better to play less real afterwards. The casinos put restrictions on winnings as well.
There are many cases of winners of a large sum, has paid it back.
Have you tried? In such case how it went?
After hovering around 500000 balance it has advanced a bit, took very long time and many spins. About 14000 spins to reach back and new high.
Can we ask U which method U are using Ralph, or is that top secret?
I have decided to post it at the time it fail or reach the target. If it reach the target it will not be known to all, but a few. The reason if it relay works will if used a lot make the casino to counter, and that should not be good for any.
The chance it will go to a million is minor thought.
Its still impressive ralph. Wish you best of luck!
Update the play. Last 10000 went easy, needed much less spins than winning Funs. Still a bit to go.
Spent a few hours getting 10000 more. Got very good hit rate.
Passing 600000 and it went rather well, not any deeper hole to climb. Did never chose the best numbers, but they were good enough.
Got a fourfour, but it was not in play.
Update. Next 10000 went with a not small drawdown (20000).
The next step towards the goal. Not very hard, good hit rate.
Aming at 700000 at first step. Will try to go for 1000000.
Ralph can i join your game?
You are my teacher - i mix Ignatus ideas with your ideas, experiences and rules and i earn ~20000 units (real money)
So now i want try to win large amount of fun money in BV.
Only language of roulette that i can "understand" is REPEATERS 8)
Quote from: Smoczoor on Jun 20, 10:47 AM 2013
Only language of roulette that i can "understand" is REPEATERS 8)
Welcome and good luck!
I use repeaters near all the time, it seems to work, but I am not sure I understand which number will repeat, It use to be good enough.
If I was able to catch the best, I would be up to the million already.
This time I did (for a change) some EC play, using HP Johnson cancel system. It runs very well if we have a lucky streak, otherwise it can take both time and bankroll to come out. As with all variants of the labby, it works well if we win at least 40% of the bets.
The balance is now 630000 +, and it is not possible to move all from head to game account.
Today we celibrate Midsummer, for many the most important celebration of the year. It is the wedding Day celebration for me and my wife as well.
Ralph
Congratulations on your Wedding Day Celebration.
Samster
Happy Anniversary Ralph. ^-^
For Your Next 100,000.00 maybe You could try Great Grampa's Triple shooter idea,
though played with Inside numbers.
May give U an acceleration-turbo boost from the East!
link:://betselection.cc/even-chance/triple-shooter-for-even-chances/msg16281/#msg16281
(From the sister organisation)
Thanks all!
Now it is celebrated midsummer with pickled herring and schnapps!
Dancing around the maypole, until tomorrow.
I will not be available early next day.
The balance got to 640000.
Went back to straight up bets.
Hi Ralph,
Congrats, enjoy your day.
It's 4.48 AM the sun is visible and I am going to sleep some hours. Did some on the game in bed.
650000 plus now!
Wake up with a very slight hang over! 8). (Good stuff in the glass last night).
Went 10000 forward!
Had a run of a kind which we do not want. I could turn it back, but it could as well go deep. This will happen to all methods, and if a similar run comes again it may be impossible to do other than accept a larger loss.
40000 downdrown, In fact we could expect more after so many spins.
Go from about 5000 to over 670000 and not meet any impossible run yet,may make us think the methods used are unbeatable, but we shall be aware of Nemesis lurking around the corner.
It is still possible to reach the target, but not sure, rather unlikely. I would never try it with real money, would stop long before.
Last 10000 took some time but never went down much, rather stand at the same for long.
Did some play on double streets.
I think we all have noticed methods "worn", they go well for a period of time.
I am still on track, and will continue.
You're well on Ralph
I got some adverse runs, I am down 70000 since last high. I have never seen such a bad run. 26 times without a low number.
The least hit was allways my numbers. I had 8 as main number, and got then plenty of 23, and that repeat, the number beside hit.
To make it more annoying the ball hit first in my number. A sequence which is expected, but hopefully not soon again.
The balance is around 600000 fun.
Ralph,
It may too late to ask this but are you keeping track of the numbers as they come up?
Do you have any data output we could use for testing against?
AD
Quote from: ADulay on Jun 23, 02:35 PM 2013
Ralph,
It may too late to ask this but are you keeping track of the numbers as they come up?
Do you have any data output we could use for testing against?
AD
I use to not save the numbers, it is many spins. If we save the spins and cut in 37 numbers a bit, we will probably never see two the same. My bad runs are not bad as such, I bet the wrong numbers :P
gotta win
"Quote of the Week"
Quote
,I bet the wrong numbers
;D
worth another 10,000 in Fun itself.
cheers
Trying to reach back to the new high. Did 10000 using double streets.
I start this time with 6 units on a double street. I add an unit every time it miss, and remove six units on a hit. This runs until the db has no units or a target is reached. The worse run I have had with this was last year with 90 miss in a row, but it went back after a week or so.
Got a 4 x 26, and parlay a straight up once with a hit.
still going good but i have no time for roulette :'(
Quote from: Smoczoor on Jun 24, 04:35 PM 2013
still going good but i have no time for roulette :'(
but have time to post the above at a roulette forum :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
O0
I am still in a losing streak, dropped down more, and the 500000 may be hitted if it not change.
I went down more, touching 400000 and then it seems to stop. I am at 440000 now. The losing streak had a SD against me at a level matching the most recorded. So it can not be worse. I will continue and at first try to recover up to 600000.
Going to use an other strategy, which can stand bad runs, but climps more slow.
For around 11/12/14 units (so two schnapps within 36 payback) I have been playing dominant Finales at BV European roulette last night, with lots of success.
If finale choice is 7/8/9/0 then u can play upto three of them.
Great to see Finales repeat over and over.
Then rest and re-track. :)
Quote from: Chrisbis on Jun 25, 07:26 AM 2013
For around 11/12/14 units (so two schnapps within 36 payback) I have been playing dominant Finales at BV European roulette last night, with lots of success.
If finale choice is 7/8/9/0 then You can play upto three of them.
Great to see Finales repeat over and over.
Then rest and re-track. :)
We have all our good times, I have got 2000000 from Bv real. We have also bad runs, and this happen to be fun mode. I got three years good runs, and got a real bad now. Thats the game!
Quote from: Ralph on Jun 25, 07:20 AM 2013
The losing streak had a SD against me at a level matching the most recorded. So it can not be worse...
Wanna bet?
Quote from: Skakus on Jun 25, 06:35 PM 2013
Wanna bet?
I can still lose again, but the streak which had happen will not show again, the odds are 1 to billions. A few of the runs was like the most recorded, like 1000 times sleeper, 25+ EC in a row and more in a period of less than 4000 spins.
The current balance!
QuoteI went down more, touching 400000 and then it seems to stop. I am at 440000 now.
I wish you recover it fast :) You are doing great job!
My bets are still repeaters - they are talking to me :xd:
i have some ideas i want to "discover" roulette language... but i need more clear mind
I have climbed a bit up, but it is far to new high (about 200000).
Still struggle! Got up a bit and hope to reach 1/2 million soon. Target in the long is a million still!
Used 5 Euro as ground bet on Db and some sessions using 1 Euro on straight ups and progressions on both.
Tasting my homebrew rice wine, very nice, which may make me not play more for today.
Reaching the 500000 limit again, playing straight up methods. One session took 2400 spins, down "only" 4000.
For a moment I thought it will be real bad again, but it went up and now I am 10000 more a head from last RFH.
Still 150000 to go to catch up the last high.
Using streets this time.
The balance is up 10000 more. I have not played it now, it was hidden at a game account Eu wheel with zero!
530000 reached, 150000 to go before reaching new high. The large loss was 280000. Attach the red figures, which will go away in ten days.
After 12 hours play 3000+ spins and a downdrown to 17000, it went back to a small plus. Would have take time in a BM casino. Some casinos here spins about 40-50 spins an hour.
It has been hard moving forward. If I leave the game for one hour, and are minus, the game close and I have to pay 10% for the possible recover.
It is max time 24 hours a session. That means I have to pay 25000 fun just to recover to the last high.
If the sessions are long I am not sure if a zero wheel would help. Anyhow it is not easy, if possible?
It is fun money, in real I have quit long time before I even reach the first 100000. And the 100000 would be 0.05 to 0.1.
Even if 500000 is many, it is not adviceable to use more than 1 Euro stakes, the bankroll must have units as the numbers can delay hitting.
The most common reason for losing is probably few units and therefore it is better chipping down.
I think too we can only win peanuts in the longer run, despite we use a large bankroll.
Quote from: Ralph on Jul 01, 07:45 AM 2013
I think too we can only win peanuts in the longer run, despite we use a large bankroll.
Then what is the point in this futile exercise. Unless there is something in it for you, it is a total time waste right. What is it there for you. Is it a satisfaction of getting to 1Mn in fun spins?
Quote from: Priyanka on Jul 01, 07:56 AM 2013
Then what is the point in this futile exercise. Unless there is something in it for you, it is a total time waste right. What is it there for you. Is it a satisfaction of getting to 1Mn in fun spins?
I have done it real using lower chip value. If you win 100000 Euro or more, you do not want to lose it back. The casino set limits as well, so I can not even try if I should want to do so. It is restriction on winnings.
This I started with 4999 fun, it is a bit to risk in Euro.
If I get to a million, which I think is not very likley, it is something, even in fun, as this casino make it equal hard.
Good luck Ralph!!
The red figures are almost gone due to time. I have still a bit to new high. Last 5000 was pretty hard. Have to go down to 0.1 some periods.
Yanks
Ralph's modesty is showing. BV has limited him on how much he can withdraw each month.
Sam
Sure Sam! After going through the old forum posts, I can see that! And am really impressed! :smile:
Yanks
Did you read where Ralph is 85--maybe 86 by now!? He has gotten into coding and created his own bot.
I am 66. Ralph is my role model!!
Sam
oooh! WooooWWW!
Thats just unbelievable! Lot of experience to look up to and lots of respect!
thanks Sam! Indeed he is a role model!
Cheers Ralph! For many more years to come!
A lot of more spins, but it is not moving, still at about the same balance. The sessions takes time, which make them ending before plus, costing more to the house. Last one started real bad, went down 14000 very fast, extreme low hit rate, but it change later. The bet size went near 800, on straight ups.
This morning it passed 450000. Some downdrown, which is not any strange, it has to be, and that is why we need a bankroll of more than a few.
About six hours play 5000 more. Balance 455000. It is not allways easy!! Down about 12000 at most.
Nice going Ralph. :thumbsup:
Update! This time a deep down of 35000 could recover in short time with high hit rate.
About 3000 forward! This time straight up on only one number, and allways number eight. Went quite slow up all the time, never a larger downdrown.
The balance is up a lot. I have not won so much since last update. The reason it is up so much is I forgot to empty a game I did play and have then misscalculate the last big loss, which was 160 000 and not around 260 000. When the casino automatic ended the sessions the game account balance is put back to the head account. I have been up about 100000 more than reported since I drop down from 670000.
I was on holidays (12 days) and bring new ideas...
Repeaters still looks good :)
Ralph 85? Sam 66? Oh Jesus - i'm kid - only 34...
Enjoy!! Time flies!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 14, 04:02 PM 2013
Enjoy!! Time flies!
It accelerate, Our experience of time is it goes faster and faster. At 20 we have from our psychological point lived half our life. That's the reason we found a summer very long when we were 7 years, and later think ten years goes faster. When the grandchildren think the time is long, and we think they do not have patience in waiting it is that which come to place. Some hours are very long for a child.
About 5000 forward! Today I had to play simple as I have other things to do. I used autospin, set at ten spins. I let it allways go ten spins.
I bet one number showing twice at the marque, run for ten spins and if not a new high, I add a chip, run it ten spins.
I got not any bad runs, all ended plus, and I got plus very fast, if we consider 0.1 chips were used.
Repeaters filter works amazing... but i'm still developing my system to flat bet
5000 up! This time it went very easy. Max down 1000. Straight up bets.
Next 5000 went fast, but had a downdrown.
Some harder runs, went some forward. Please check the turnover on the table, and compare to the small profit, it is easy to understand what would happen if the wheel had a zero with 2.7% HE. It would never be at plus on a wheel with not equal odds.
It is 90000 to go before new high!
Congrats Ralph!
I have one session very hard... My repeater filter does not want to work properly - so i have to "switch my settings".
I played also few games with Kens 4 numbers tactics. But BV easy "learn" this method. K4N easy to play on Dublinbet with male dealers.
Next step is 100k.
What you mean by "learn" this method?
stop asking... just do something by yourself!
you know what to do
@Smoczoor
It is not possible to avoid some hard runs, we can anyhow be a head again, even if it takes time. A player with years of experience, know we can be back for month and at the end catch up.
I went up an other 5000, using straight up bets.
A few Euro to reach 600000, but a bad run got it back to 593000. I will take a brake and try later.
QuoteIt is not possible to avoid some hard runs
Yes, Sir! 100% true...
After hard run i have few very easy sessions
Just passing 600000. Still about 70000 to reach the latest high. I used double streets here, but the methods are similar as on straight ups.
Some hours play, and a deep downdrown, which lasted long. I could come almost back before I break it. The total has grown, but very little.
I got some loss! Not too deep, but I have done a lot of spins and stay about the same. This can change to bad or better. About 100000 down at most.
Hovering about 30000 minus is that happens now.
You can do it Ralph. !! ;)
:o :o :o :o
I found great method for flat bet... still testing
What is the method Smoczoor? ???
This method is well know as one of the best flat bet methods but i modify it. Im still hardly testing it. I will post more results later...
Lost my internet due to thunder, it works again and I still struggle to catch up. I have been at about the same balance for long.
Seven hours game and it was not moving back or forward!
QuoteSeven hours game and it was not moving back or forward!
Yesterday i had the same!!!
The reason I not have been here for a while is that my internet connection is not working. The provider (Telia Sonera) has not been able to fix it yet.
For the moment I use a mobile internet, which in my (rural) area is very slow. It is difficult to use the casinos at the slow speed.
I will continue the trials to reach a million as soon it is possible to do it. I have not for weeks been able to use internet, and ASDL is the only option at my place, mobile has bad cover. Telia Sonera owns the wires, and it there the fault is, so it will not help try to get an other operator, they have to use the same lines.
I have read the entire post great Ralph
Any update??
well,
anyone knows how this was played?
R
If you're asking ralph, unfortunately i think he died.
Yes i know about that , i see that other people where testing it aswel, maybe they know?
R
Rewster - I was not sure whether any one else testing. Only Ralph was doing it. He is a great man with lots of knowledge, unfortunate the way his life ended.
I had a few mails exchanged with him and one of the methods he was using in this test was as below. He would choose a number and start with 1 unit on that number. Every spin that the number goes unhit, he would add one more unit on it. When he gets a hit, he would reduce 36 units from it. It did have wild swings, but the profits were good as well. Good luck if you are trying out.
Okay thanks! You would need a massive br for that. He does had many experience in roulette and his posts are very intreresting.
Hope we all beat that game one day :thumbsup:
R
Quote from: Priyanka on Mar 17, 09:36 AM 2017He would choose a number and start with 1 unit on that number. Every spin that the number goes unhit, he would add one more unit on it. When he gets a hit, he would reduce 36 units from it.
It's like any other progression. You will have some lucky runs, but occasionally you will choose the coldest numbers. Of course any experienced player should know this without testing.
About 2 years ago I was foolish enough to play something similar with real money. The swings were insane, I've lost over one hundred bets in a row several times, and eventually said goodbye to some hard earned money. I'm still trying to figure out how to take it back :D
Quote from: ati on Mar 20, 04:23 PM 2017
It's like any other progression. You will have some lucky runs, but occasionally you will choose the coldest numbers. Of course any experienced player should know this without testing.
About 2 years ago I was foolish enough to play something similar with real money. The swings were insane, I've lost over one hundred bets in a row several times, and eventually said goodbye to some hard earned money. I'm still trying to figure out how to take it back :D
Ati,
I am sorry to hear of your monetary loss, but that is to be expected when we bet on sleepers (or chase losses) using negative progressions. Hopefully, you don't have to go through that kind of a painful lesson again.
Strangely enough, some of the most experienced roulette players on this forum still -- for some reason or the other -- have difficulty arriving at the above realization. They still think that negative progressions hold some kind of a magic key that will mysteriously unlock the door to the Holy Grail.
Well, I haven't really played any roulette since, so I stopped losing. But I spent a vast amount of time reading roulette forums and running tests in the past two years. I often lose motivation as time is very precious, and I'm afraid that all the knowledge I have will be completely useless in my life. It would only worth something if I could turn it into profit eventually.
Focus on improving your odds then its heading in the right direction