Lets throw some mud at a little idea, a "friend", just suggested.
Triple Mud Winging.
Take spin number. Say #5
Throw as much mud at it as possible, until something sticks,
for three following spins.
How I hear U ask................?
Like this.
Number#5,= 1st Dozen, 2nd Column, Low, Red, Odd.
Mud 1.
Cover his means of traveling out of the table.
That is #2, #5, #8, #11...............now he can not get out either towards Zero, nor out thro rest of 2nd Col.
Next
Mud 2.
In case this number, 'beams its-self up" into a shape changer number, we cover its Finales/Exits
That is #15, #25, #35..............got ya now.
Mud 3.
Next
In case its thinking of escaping in the EC group bus, lets cover that too....
That is #1, #3, #7, #9
So, total bet is:- 11 numbers
Spin for three events only....flat bet.
On a win, play same number again.
On a loss, add additional numbers based on next spin.
Repeat for three loses.
After the third loss, re-track.
Rules of engagement.
Target Profit +100, Trailing stop-loss -100, Or 100 spins.
Stick to the rules! Trailing stop-loss is critical.
30 Out In BR Profit target Stop-loss Bet on triple chances of 30
30 9 36 27 100 -73 Bet on triple chances of 30 Profit target 100, stop-loss target -100
17 9 18 100 -73 Bet on triple chances of 30, 17 Profit target 100, stop-loss target - 73
15 16 36 38 100 -62 Bet on triple chances of 15 Profit target 100, stop-loss target - 73
19 10 28 100 -62 Bet on triple chances of 19, 15
13 17 36 47 100 -53 Bet on triple chances of 13
34 10 37 100 -53 Bet on triple chances of 13,34
22 20 36 53 100 -47 Bet on triple chances of 22
28 11 36 78 100 -22 Bet on triple chances of 28
11 10 68 100 -22 Bet on triple chances of 28
22 18 36 86 100 -14 Bet on triple chances of 28, 11
28 11 36 111 100 (Bet on triple chances of 22 )
Stop/End of session, target achieved
The trailing stop-loss, reduces as U make gain, but remains on a loss.
More sessions to come.
Spins from BetVoyager NoZero wheel Roulette, few years ago.
EDIT
I do wish we had a decent tables function in the forum!!
The construct behind the last post.
First tracker spin= #30, so, we bet that 30 will repeat.
Bet is:-
(the sector on the carpet), 27, 30, 33 & 36.
plus, (the finales of 10's) 0, 10, 20, 30*
plus, (the EC groupage of REH) 32, 34, 36* (#36 already included in the sector)
*number removed, due to replication.
(9 numbers in total) ..........0, 10, 20, 27, 30, 32, 33, 34, 36
Does anyone want the rest of the construct for the bet in that first sequence?
I'm happy to explain if any one asks. :thumbsup:
Interesting, I had exactly the same system in mind, it came from a dream actually,(you're fuckt up when you dream about roulettesystems!) haha ;D it was just like you play add afew numbers after each bet.. tried it but couldn't figure out how to realize it just yet
How you pick your numbers? 3 in a row each time or ?.. I don't get it :S
First 10 spins test... 8 hits... to good to be true... :twisted:
The bet construct is all around the last spin.
Lets take another number, and I will work thro it with/for u.
Please pick a number someone...? (except Zero) thanx. :P
for more mud, you can add 4 wheel neighbours of the last spin
I could, Ur exactly right.
for now tho, as an RNG number excercise, I will stick to just carpet/felt/table/cushionfloor/laminate.
Well I had programmed my bot so it would make straight bets from latest EC.
You add the sector, and last digit, this also works some times...
I know what 4 neighbours also works... some times...
so now the question is.. what if we idd combine...
Its all about ROI again isn't it?
How much $ to put down on the table V the return if we win, and then balance that against
any Progression we would have to make to recover losses.
If flat bet, then yes, maybe a slight increase in the wheel & Table cover would make sense.
Sector play is one of my Favourite bets. Its what BisCending9 and Bis9till5 is all about.
Now I'm looking at table cover, cause its quicker to lay down in a Bricks & Mortar setting.
Quote from: Chrisbis on Jul 01, 06:02 PM 2013
Please pick a number someone...? (except Zero) thanks. :P
Chris, can you do for 7?
- Yanks
Doubled my BR on DB playing this playing 2euro units, +2 on loss -2 on win.
Sure....how did You know, my fav number of all time.
So..here we go.#7
The carpet sector for #7 is:-
1, 4, 7, 10
plus, the finales for #7 are:-
7*, 17, 27
plus the EC groupage for #7 is:-
1*, 3, 5, 7*, 9
so total bet for #7 to repeat in three spins is:-
1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 17, & 27 Total of 9 numbers.
and here is the bet visual- below.
and the visual for Spin4Fun if the wheel neighbours are included,
(which are 12, 28, 29, 18) making 13 in total- below.
(note:- some would say, that the Zero (0), is also the 37th number on a wheel, so You could include that in your Finales part of this bet, making 10 numbers in total for the Carpet bet, and 14 for the +wheel bet.)
Quote from: Chrisbis on Jul 01, 05:23 PM 2013
Trailing stop-loss is critical.
The trailing stop-loss, reduces as U make gain, but remains on a loss.
I didn't quite get that. Do you mind explaining with examples.
Thanks for the 'seven'
Of course.
U start with 100 BR,
your stop-loss is to be -100
So, if U don't win any game/hand, your session will end when U reach 0 (Zero BR) ok?
Say U make 10 units in first game, your BR will be 110, and your trailing stop-loss value, will now be -90
since it too has moved up 10 units.
and so on.
Say your play goes like this.
Net+/- BR stop-loss (Trailing)
Start 100 -100
+10..........110..........-90
+5............115..........-85
+12..........127..........-73
-17...........110..........-73 (See, your stop-loss as a trailing entity stays at the higher value,
to prevent Profit wipe-out.)
-10...........100..........-73
+25...........125.........-73
+15...........140.........-60 (New trailing stop-loss, since U made more gain)
+23...........163.........-37
do U see it now Yanks? U will only ever lose 100 from ANY position,
and not lose your whole BR, if You have made gain/profit.
In short..........your Trailing stop-loss, if the same as your Target Profit,
will always be the same as You are short of your Overall Target (when You are at a New High)
So, if You are at 170 New High BR, your stop-loss (Trailing) will show You are -30* short of your Target!
Easy Peasy eh!
*(assuming Ur Target was +100 on original BR)
Hi chris,
what progression do you use in case of 3 losses in a row?
thx.
Flat bet only at moment . :wink:
checking the horizon for possible progression tho I think its going to be too deep.
Chrisbis, You are a smart chap! This works like a charm.
I have been testing this over 40 sets of actuals from Wiesbaden and it has produced +50 or more for each of those 40 sessions. I have stuck to all the original rules you posted (also on 3 times instead of 2times, as my intuition tell me that 2 times is very less to get a hit). I have made a slight modification though based on an idea that crossed my mind. You said, trailing stop-loss means, I will lose only 100 units from my peak and may not lose my bankroll in entirety even if I get one hit. I have extended this thought process to profit as well as I don’t want to be greedy to target 100 all the time. Basically I am going in for a variance of 100. Anytime I achieve a variance of 100 I stop. This might be in the negative territory or in the positive territory. Hope you are following me and am not leading to confusion. I think, I will try extending this thought process to other systems I have read through as well.
I will stick to the plan of playing the 5 systems, that I thought of playing today, but this one is very tempting and will play tomorrow for 3 real sessions.
Btn, I am posting below one of the sets of Wiesbaden spins to show how am testing.
[reveal=Wiesbaden spins]
BR Target stop-loss
7 100 200 0
25 91 191 0
0 74 174 0
5 90 174 0
36 79 174 0
5 95 174 0
3 120 174 20
20 110 174 20
24 126 174 26
23 115 174 26
9 96 174 26
12 106 174 26
25 96 174 26
25 111 174 26
1 100 174 26
1 118 174 26
29 108 174 26
8 92 174 26
18 107 174 26
34 98 174 26
7 82 174 26
4 97 174 26
16 87 174 26
22 105 174 26
4 94 174 26
12 111 174 26
5 101 174 26
30 83 174 26
2 93 174 26
4 119 174 26
4 145 174 45
17 135 174 45
14 154 174 54
26 144 174 54
22 162 174 62
7 151 174 62
25 131 174 62
35 140 174 62
25 167 174 67
0 157 174 67
4 143 174 67
5 157 174 67
12 146 174 67
3 164 174 67
24 154 174 67
22 169 174 69
12 194 Target achieved
[/reveal]
It works on those numbers/spins because there are so many Finales!
Well done.
I am confused on your "100 variance" for your Stop-Loss.
Do U mean U will (at will) change the stop-loss value depending of what U had for lunch?
Or something else completely.
Trailing stop-loss, is like bringing up the rear gunners during advance into enemy territory.
So, that if U retreat, U don't have to go far to get into safe hands! LoL
[reveal=Psssss....]
It's not my original idea entirely!
[/reveal]
Quote from: Chrisbis on Jul 02, 07:42 AM 2013
I am confused on your "100 variance" for your Stop-Loss.
I fix +100/-100 as profit/loss as you mentioned in your post. So I need a starting bankroll of 100 and the game ends when its wiped out or I reach 200.
However, what I am trying to do is everytime I reach a new high, I change the loss target and everytime I reach a new low, I change the profit target. This is done to keep a variance at 100, i.e., I have a floating bankroll of 100.
Refer to the example spins I posted. After the first spin, I lost 9 units. So my new profit target is reduced to 91units, so that it is within a 100 unit reach. After the second spin, I lost a further 17units. So my new profit target is reduced to 74 units, so that it is within a 100 unit reach. Similarly the spin before the last spin in the example, I reached a new high of 169. So I changed my stoploss to 69 to be within 100 units variance always.
Hope the rain is gone now! :xd:
I see (said the blind man looking for his black cat in the blackened basement on the darkest day of the month)
What You are doing, is reducing the target, because the BR has shrunk,
and as thus is not large enough to support the play thro to the original higher Target.
Nice touch.
Bit like a restart/reset, at each loss intersection.
Be good to see that in an Excel, as U re-calc those variable Stop-Loss positions.
Anyway, I am going to run those Wies-Bang spins thro Bis9till5 to see how they fair.
Will post outcome soon.
No rain!
Quote from: Chrisbis on Jul 02, 08:00 AM 2013
Anyway, I am going to run those Wies-Bang spins thro Bis9till5 to see how they fair.
How did it go Chris?
Have only looked at the series of numbers, and searched for the Bis9till5 connections,
and there don't appear to be many.
So, my projection is a ??? unless progression involved.
Looks like I can only see 14 winning positions, out of the 47 numbers spun,
just by visually tracking the series numbers(spins).
and making the 9/5/9 connection.
Maybe I will lay this out for everyone to see.
I actually could come out ahead, if mild progression used!!
"Yanks" Wiesbaden Spins from early post.
[reveal]
7
25
0
5
36
5
3
20
24
23
9
12
25
25
1
1
29
8
18
34
7
4
16
22
4
12
5
30
2
4
4
17
17
14
26
22
7
25
35
25
0
4
5
12
3
24
22
12
Those are the spins.
Here is the Telemetry.
Lets say BR=300
Spins, W/L, Out, In, Net, BR, Notes
7 300 Tracking First spin, Bet 9u centered on #7 (Level 1)
25 L, -9, 0 -9 291 Bet 9u Cnrt on #25 + 5u Cnrt on #7
0 L, -14 0 -23 277 Bet 9u Cnrt on #0 + 5u Cnrt on 25
5 L -14 0 -37 263 Bet 18u Cnrt on #5 + 10u Cnrt on 0 (Level 2) (3 losses in Row)
36 L -28 0 -65 235 Bet 27u Cnrt on #36 + 15u Cnrt on 5 (Level 3)
5 W -42 108 +1 301 Bet 9u Cnrt on #5 + 5u Cnrt on #36 (Level 1)
3 L -14 0 -13 287 Bet 18u Cnrt on #3 + 10u Cnrt on #5 (Level 2)
20 L -28 0 -41 259 Bet 27u Cnrt on #20 + 15u Cnrt on #3 (Level 3)
24 W -42 108 +25 325 Bet 9u Cnrt on #24 + 5u Cnrt on #20 (Level 1)
23 W -14 36 +47 347 Bet 9u Cnrt on #23 + 5u Cnrt on #24 (New Hi)
9 L -14 0 +33 333 Bet 9u Cnrt on #9 + 5u Cnrt on #23
12 L -14 0 +19 319 Bet 18u Cnrt on #12 + 10u Cnrt on #9 (Level 2)
25 L -28 0 -9 291 Bet 27u Cnrt on #25 + 15u Cnrt on #12 (Level 3)
25 W -42 108 +57 357 Bet 9u Cnrt on #25 only (full overlap)(New Hi)(Level 1)
1 L -9 0 +48 348 Bet 9u Cnrt on #1 + 5u Cnrt on #25
1 W -14 36 +70 370 Bet 9u Cnrt on #1 only (full overlap)(New Hi)
29 L -9 0 +61 361 Bet 9u Cnrt on #29 + 5u Cnrt on #1
8 L -14 0 +47 347 Bet 18u Cnrt on #8 + 10u Cnrt on #29 (Level 2)
18 W -28 72 +91 391 Bet 9u Cnrt on #18 + 5u Cnrt on #8 (Level 1)(New Hi)
34 L -14 0 +77 377 Bet 18u Cnrt on #34 + 10u Cnrt on #18 (Level 2)
7 W -28 72 +121 421 Target Reached +100 Session Over, :-)
4
16
22
4
12
5
30
2*
4*
4*
17*
17* *All winning numbers
14
26
22*
7*
25
35*
25*
0*
4*
5
12*
3*
24
22
12
Testing the 3 strategies, neighbours, 4 sectors and finals.
link:://youtu.be/veuGnpqmZLc
All three strategies together?
Shame, it started so well to !
I was waiting for you to stop, when the graph went up nicely!! lol
Where were the spins from? I was watching muted.