Something new I started playing on dozens and columns. I came up with it , I think its original but who knows? I tested it on 2000 zumma 00 spins and recently started playing it when I have a good day with my other systems . So I have played it live I think 3x...it worked well .....
doz comes in say doz 2. I play the second dozen 3x, any hits within the 3 spins and I play the second doz 3 more times...
If I lose 3 bets I take the last dozen that came and repeat the above.
my betting is
111
222
333 etc
What I think it is doing is finding a hot dozen over time........
when both the dozen and column hit there are some nice payoffs....
If you have questions just ask
So far its working some Im going to test and play some more of it!!!!!
Hey Tomla,
Very interesting.
I just finished reading a topic called Double treble in the sister forum. We do have a similar bet selection there, but it covers columns as well. Also, the progression seems to be different.
I tested for dozens for 100 spins, and this seems to be failing. May be I accidentally got a session from hell :( Will try more.
- Yanks
@Tom.
Nice post there. Will test. :thumbsup:
@Yanks
which did you test?
100 spins on Tom's Triple Epidemics or Double Trouble ?
Spins/Excel ?
8)
Quote from: Chrisbis on Jul 02, 05:57 AM 2013
which did you test?
100 spins on Tom's Triple Epidemics or Double Trouble ?
Spins/Excel ?
I tested Tom's Triple stuff.
Sorry! Didn't retain the excel!
it does cover columns also ...that bet is exactly like the dozens. Do you have the link? I want to compare
progressions and everything are still open to ideas, this is pretty new to me. When I get on a little roll of the dozens and columns both hitting say 3 out of 5 times is when I quit the game if ahead.
Quote from: Tomla021 on Jul 02, 09:07 AM 2013
it does cover columns also ...that bet is exactly like the dozens. Do you have the link?
The link link:://betselection.cc/dozencolumn/double-treble/
What I meant when I said columns was this one covers both every spin.
Thanks that is very similar ,,,Hey Great Grandpa and me are thinking alike! Im going to analyze both versions
The betselection is innovative but progression is not.
well Mr Kings Roulette what would you suggest?
try five spins....win 2 out of the 5 ..win money......your way you have to win 2 out of 3 to win
Tom, thanks for the post.
Do you put the bets side by side like the penthouse? Like this? 111222333444555 etc... and move up and down the line?
Let's say you have a bad run and are betting 444 and you get a win here 444 on the 2nd 4. Where do you go from there?
i would go back down to the 3 line at that spot---eventually I always catch a run that will clear me out......Im more than open to other progressions etc....the actual bet selection looks very very good to me
I played it another way , progression wise today at the ole casino......
I decided to go 123 twice and 246 once on both column and dozen or call it quits with a 24 unit lose x 2 .....the way I played it was
if it hits right away on 1 its a 2 unit hit,,, if lose play 2 which produces a 3 unit hit if it loses play 3 which is a 3 unit hit ....at any hit start the same dozen or column again. switch after 3 losses--It did really well and gave me a nice bang and all in time for me to get out of the casino before they raise the minimums tomorrow on july 4th the USA b-day! I havent done a lot of testing on this --very little in fact! but it seems like something that could be played viably. Im not 100% sure on the progression yet The runs on this can be incredible--but as with anything this one has risk as far as I can see so far
Quote from: Tomla021 on Jul 01, 11:44 PM 2013
Something new I started playing on dozens and columns. I came up with it , I think its original but who knows? I tested it on 2000 zumma 00 spins and recently started playing it when I have a good day with my other systems . So I have played it live I think 3x...it worked well .....
doz comes in say doz 2. I play the second dozen 3x, any hits within the 3 spins and I play the second doz 3 more times...
If I lose 3 bets I take the last dozen that came and repeat the above.
my betting is
111
222
333 etc
What I think it is doing is finding a hot dozen over time........
when both the dozen and column hit there are some nice payoffs....
If you have questions just ask
So far its working some I'm going to test and play some more of it!!!!!
Sure this one is a pretty interesting "epiphany" but since you played it live I'm just wondering if it works on online casino.
I used to play with website bitoomba I'm trying to figure out if this epiphany can be also done in this site.
Let me know if it works in online casino
Hi!
I have played it with real Money and won 26 SEK in about +60 bets, i used the original progression and it Went to 6 in progression once, but then i got a it in that progression i reduced the bets to 3 in progression and started it from there just to keep the amount of Money down.
I Think this is a good system to play, but you most as Always Think and play with he game and not force the winnings.
Thanks Agesta :)
I have no idea? I play brick and mortar!
and I don't think you can win every time--but when the wins go--judge it
If the bankroll is sufficient and the bet selection is solid a Fibo progression might not be a bad idea and decide on a win to drop back just one or two positions. With a Fibo you can get some big bets but if the bet selection gives you streaks of wins (which following the last does a lot in dozens and columns) you might wanna look at the Fibo on paper...just a thought.
It would require a big bank if you aren't using stop-losses
Why Fibonacci something when you don't have to.? Your going to win 8 out of 10 sessions why go crazy?
Maybe I didn't read the thread completely enough...it sounded like you were only going out 9 bets which isn't a ton of money on a Fibo...although that's the first I had seen regarding winning 8 of 10 sessions.
Theory was that the Fibo doesn't climb that quickly in the beginning...so if you lose 6 or 8 in a row you're not in a ton of trouble right out of the gate. But by the same token...if you do lose quite a few in a row to begin...a couple wins has a very nice profit, so long as you have the staying power.
It's possible we just look at progressions completely different. It was just a suggestion.
I usually only play one or two inside numbers so I have alot of dead time at a table...I can wait for a situation where, in this case, nothing repeats for 6,9 or 12 spins and then after a dozen or column repeats...start my session at that point. I would not be a continuous player on this type of method.
Different ideologies, style of play and MM.
My style doesn't fit the vast majority of players...too boring for most
Hey Im not against the idea ---what are the numbers on a 1 dozen Fibo for 9 steps? so i can compare. I know the numbers for an ec fibo
Fibo would be the same (at least it is for me) whether you play EC's or anything else...the only modification I can think of is because it pays twice as much to repeat each bet on the way thru it if you wanted to take some risk out of it 1,1,1,1,2,2,3,3 etc. instead of 1,1,2,3,5,8,13. But that takes the profit out of it too to a great extent...and we are playing for profit...not for fun...me anyways.
For me...if I had confidence in the bet selection...I would set a stop loss and play it through and if it hit the stop-loss maybe continue at a later starting point from half-way up the ladder I just fell off of.
As an aside...I have lost the most money in the past by not following thru on the plan and not making the bets that were called for because I got timid. Once I got that all behind me it's been much better. Not to say I always win...I don't. But suckin' it up and laying down the bet when it calls for it wins more than it loses...for me anyways. And yes...I am aware all good things come to an end.
Quote from: rouletteKEY on Jul 05, 02:54 PM 2013
Fibo would be the same (at least it is for me) whether you play ECs or anything else...the only modification I can think of is because it pays twice as much to repeat each bet on the way thru it if you wanted to take some risk out of it 1,1,1,1,2,2,3,3 etc. instead of 1,1,2,3,5,8,13. But that takes the profit out of it too to a great extent...and we are playing for profit...not for fun...me anyways.
Tom, a true fibo is based on 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34-55-89 for even chances. When you win, your next bet is to drop back 1 step. This will give you a small profit of 1 unit for each double win. The 1-1-1-1-2-2-3-3-5-5-8-8-13-13 etc... is correct for a true fibo on the dozens. We still need a double win. So if we're betting our 2nd 5 unit bet it means we were down 19 units after losing the 1st 5 unit bet. A win on the 2nd 5 unit bet reduces our amount in the hole by 10 which leaves us 9 units down (19-10). We drop back one step which will be the 1st 5 unit bet and a win on this bet will net us our +1 unit (10-9=1). Maybe not such a big win as playing 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21 etc... but the bets don't get so large as quickly either. So we have to decide our playing style, more risk for a larger win or less risk for a smaller win. :question:
I already know your preference, especially when having to play at larger minimum bet tables. It gets a little tough to push the risk factor when betting $10 to $25 units.
If we are able to select a dozen and hit a bit over a 1/3 of the times, we will slowly win flat, and in such case it is far better using a larger chip than a progression like fib. Even if we see we manage to win a fraction more than one third of the spins, it will come situations with a longer losing streak.
If it goes to table max or hard for the BR, we can spoil weeks of winnings fast .
One other disadvantages with negative progressions is we bet too low on a winning streak and more on a losing. Progression players using fib use to start at min bet. Flat bettors use to have larger value and go for a few.
I never success flat betting, but know some who can do well with 25 dollar chip and more, I see them waiting for something and cash in about 100 dollars every attempt (near) a few times during the evning.
Quote from: rouletteKEY on Jul 05, 02:54 PM 2013
As an aside...I have lost the most money in the past by not following thru on the plan and not making the bets that were called for because I got timid. Once I got that all behind me it's been much better. Not to say I always win...I don't. But suckin' it up and laying down the bet when it calls for it wins more than it loses...for me anyways. And yes...I am aware all good things come to an end.
That's so true. You get to the last section of a progression that looked great on paper, realize you're not comfortable playing that size bets with real money, plus the multiple losses are denting your confidence on your bet selection. So you chicken out, call yourself sensible, and watch how the trend reverses and the progression you didn't play out recovers all the losses... on paper.
The only cure is a big bankroll. How big? Big enough that you don't find yourself worrying. At the same time, the unit size needs to be small enough that you can afford to lose the entire bankroll.
Jeromin
yea that always bugged me on e/c fibos ,,,,,,Im only playing this after winning other chips earlier and its fun for a "fait accompli"