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Title: S.M.A D&C Progression (Save My *ss) as substitute for Fibo D&C?
Post by: GamblerX on Jul 24, 05:31 AM 2013
Hello dear gamblers!

I have done some quite extensive research looking for “ultimate” D&C progressions. As I'm an passionate pattern chaser in D&C's, I've tried many different progressions. Simply, I was trying to find an average substitute for Fibonacci D&C:

::: Fibonacci D&C

1 1 1 1 2 2 3 3 5 5 8 8 13 13 21 21 34 34 55 55 89 89 144 144 233 233 377 377 610 610

What I have in mind is following:

::: S.M.A Progression

1 1 1 2 2 3 4 5 6 8 10 12 15 19 23 29 36 44 55 68 84 104 128 158 195 241 297 367 453 559

It is built on mathematical formula as follow:

Last 3L's/2 (rounding up 0.5 if necessary.)

When W, just stake the last lost bet. If lose, then, again, stake last 3L's/2 (rounding up 0.5 if necessary) 

When positive balance, reset progression to 1u.

The main strength of this progression is that you don't need 3 consequent W to save your *ss (and bankroll) from disaster. You can have WLWL or WLLWLLW and you will still survive. That is a bit difference from  Fibonacci D&C. I have played Fibonacci D&C many times, that was (is) still my standard progression. As it have some balance between the work and gain in every session.   

Check following result from a live session at *etsafe Casino and apply both  Fibonacci D&C and S.M.A Progression.

L
L
W
L
W
L
W
W
L
W
L
L
W
W
L
W
L
W
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
W
L
L
W
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
W
L
L
W
L
L
L
L
L
W
L
L
W
L
L
L
W
L
W
L
W
L
L
W
L
L
L
W
L
L
L
W
W
L
L
L
L
L
L
W
L
L
L
L
L

In this session, I saw a 58(!) spins interval before a double W appeared! With  Fibonacci D&C I came up betting 610u stake - but only 50u with S.M.A. Progression.

With Fibonacci D&C it took 10 spins longer to recover positive balance than it took with S.M.A. Progression. Still, they have very similar amount of cumulative loss during the game session.

I'm pretty sure I saw this kind of formula on some web site, but I'm not sure how they implemented in the real game. Because it is really hard to do all calculations in real time during the game session.

So therefore it would be nice if someone could translate this progression into an dynamical excel live progression calculator file with 2 macros: For W and L. It should also track balance and reset to 1U when last it goes over last highest balance. And that's it!

Maybe some excel guru here on the forum can assist us and provide such dynamic progression calculator for this S.M.A progression :)

I hope that you people can test this progression and give some inputs.

Cheers.
Title: Re: S.M.A D&C Progression (Save My *ss) as substitute for Fibo D&C?
Post by: Chrisbis on Jul 24, 06:31 AM 2013
Will you bet betting on BOTH Dozens & Column at same time?

Or

Dozen bet............has one progression status, and

Column bet..........has one progression status?

Otherwise, if betting both, need to re-compute your Recovery list.
Title: Re: S.M.A D&C Progression (Save My *ss) as substitute for Fibo D&C?
Post by: GamblerX on Jul 24, 06:54 AM 2013
Quote from: Chrisbis on Jul 24, 06:31 AM 2013
Will you bet betting on BOTH Dozens & Column at same time?

Or

Dozen bet............has one progression status, and

Column bet..........has one progression status?

Otherwise, if betting both, need to re-compute your Recovery list.

Hello,

Sorry, I was unclear on that point. No, I will only bet single Column OR single Dozen. Not D&C at the same time.

IF I decide to expand my current betting selection logic to bet on D&C on the same time, then they should have separate progression. They shall be considered as tottaly independent tracks & games.
Title: Re: S.M.A D&C Progression (Save My *ss) as substitute for Fibo D&C?
Post by: Chrisbis on Jul 24, 07:04 AM 2013
...Running parallel with each other, and with both having a separate allocated Bank-Roll.

Otherwise.....very complex.

if switching from Doz to Col within a session, then that's ok, as progression will follow the money,
not the bet selection.
Title: Re: S.M.A D&C Progression (Save My *ss) as substitute for Fibo D&C?
Post by: GamblerX on Jul 24, 07:04 AM 2013
I hope that you saw my updated post above. My main goal was just to get a simple live progression calculator, regardless of betting selection system.
Title: Re: S.M.A D&C Progression (Save My *ss) as substitute for Fibo D&C?
Post by: GamblerX on Jul 24, 07:09 AM 2013
Quote from: Chrisbis on Jul 24, 07:04 AM 2013
...Running parallel with each other, and with both having a separate allocated Bank-Roll.

Otherwise.....very complex.

if switching from Doz to Col within a session, then that's ok, as progression will follow the money,
not the bet selection.
Sure, yes, just make it as you prefer :).

Important thing is to implement 2 simple macros.

For example, when W:

Shift+W

When L:

Sift+S

In that way the mouse will always stay in the game window, but the next bet size will be shown in excel.


Title: Re: S.M.A D&C Progression (Save My *ss) as substitute for Fibo D&C?
Post by: Chrisbis on Jul 24, 07:22 AM 2013
So..............with Excel in Restore down mode (Window)
you want just to see the next bet amount (£$E), either a Reset, after a Shift+W for a Win,
which will take you back to level 1
or
an advance to next level, after a Shift+L for a Loss?
that it?
Title: Re: S.M.A D&C Progression (Save My *ss) as substitute for Fibo D&C?
Post by: GamblerX on Jul 24, 07:30 AM 2013
Quote from: Chrisbis on Jul 24, 07:22 AM 2013
So..............with Excel in Restore down mode (Window)
you want just to see the next bet amount (£$E), either a Reset, after a Shift+W for a Win,
which will take you back to level 1
or
an advance to next level, after a Shift+L for a Loss?
that it?

Well, yes, regardless of winning or losing, Excel calculator shall always show next betting amount. It shall also keep en eye on the highest balance.

For example, we begin attack with 1500u positive balance.

After several Shift+S and Shift+W, balance is 1550u. Then, excel shall reset betting progression to 1u.

You can also implement a target gain, for example to enter in units or % in regards to current balance.

Sorry if I'm not clear in my explanations, just ask me :)
Title: Re: S.M.A D&C Progression (Save My *ss) as substitute for Fibo D&C?
Post by: GamblerX on Jul 24, 08:17 AM 2013
Obviously, the whole progression chart i based on following mathematical formula:

3Ls/2

Which build following betting stakes:

1 (0+0+1 ) : 2 = 0,5 r to 1
1  (0+1+1 ) : 2 = 1 : 2 = 0,5 r to 1
1 (1+1+1 ) : 2 = 3 : 2 = 1,5 r to 2
2 (2+1+1 ) : 2 = 4 : 2 = 2
2  (2+2+1 ) : 2 = 5 : 2 = 2,5 r to 3
3 etc...
5 etc...
Title: Re: S.M.A D&C Progression (Save My *ss) as substitute for Fibo D&C?
Post by: Chrisbis on Jul 24, 08:55 AM 2013
Yep......standard Dozens Marty recovery.  :P

(or thereabouts!!!)
Title: Re: S.M.A D&C Progression (Save My *ss) as substitute for Fibo D&C?
Post by: GamblerX on Jul 24, 09:48 AM 2013
Quote from: Chrisbis on Jul 24, 08:55 AM 2013
Yep......standard Dozens Marty recovery.  :P

(or thereabouts!!!)
Well, you know the drill :)

Is it difficult to build such excel calculators? Do you need to code it from scratch  :o  ?

I hope this wont steal you valuable time...
Title: Re: S.M.A D&C Progression (Save My *ss) as substitute for Fibo D&C?
Post by: Chrisbis on Jul 24, 10:26 AM 2013
...........not from scratch!  ;)

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