Hi,
I've been testing lots of systems and so far only lost money.
What systems are you guys playing to win ?
I am trying the matrix vertical 5, and so far not really winning to be honest, a loss cancels out lots of wins.
I have read lots of threads and it seems there is no way to win.
I am trying to win 25 units everyday, for the next 4-6 months. I need some money for medical reasons to greatly improve my life. I am starting something after those 6 months, and If I don't get it before 6 months I kinda have to live with it for atleast 4 years and after that If I have money I can get it. I have no other ways to get it
I am only building a bigger hole for myself by losing money, It's silly but have no choice, I have to atleast try, anyways do you guys have any systems that could possibly win 25 units per day and when you lose its not so big that it takes all your profit out? Or should I just give up?
£300 is my current BR. Any help would be greatly appreciated
from my experience better put this £300 in the bank and get the real job
Assuming your story is real, gambling for that reason is wrong. there must be no desperation in gambling.
When you gamble, it should (IMO) be for these reasons
1. Fun
2. A bit of Kudos for yourself because what you studied actually seems to work
3. Have no detrimental effect on your life or finances
I guess you didnt want to hear that.
And how much is one unit for you? If it's 1 pound, you can say goodbye to your roll. 25 units is not much, if you know what you do, and you are not scared to bet big when it's necessary. I have much better results, since I started playing with 5000+ units.
Quote from: Turner on Dec 15, 06:41 PM 2013
Assuming your story is real, gambling for that reason is wrong. there must be no desperation in gambling.
When you gamble, it should (in my opinion) be for these reasons
1. Fun
2. A bit of Kudos for yourself because what you studied actually seems to work
3. Have no detrimental effect on your life or finances
I guess you didn't want to hear that.
This is the advice you need mate.
I assure you that there's no system that will meet your needs at this time.
Get your life in order some other way. The way of the tortoise for you, not the hare.
GLC
Quote from: GLC on Dec 15, 08:33 PM 2013
This is the advice you need mate.
I assure you that there's no system that will meet your needs at this time.
Get your life in order some other way. The way of the tortoise for you, not the hare.
GLC
I would tell you the same. I will add a bit to it.
Even if someone was winning with whatever system he/she was playing with. You have to remember your luck and someone else's is not the same. Gambling of any form is all about luck and being at the right place at the right time.
Quote from: ati on Dec 15, 06:43 PM 2013
And how much is one unit for you? If it's 1 pound, you can say goodbye to your roll. 25 units is not much, if you know what you do, and you are not scared to bet big when it's necessary. I have much better results, since I started playing with 5000+ units.
ati has good advice for you with 5000+ roll. For me even better to make 2 times with 10000+ roll.
10000+ roll is best size for playing serious.
You have 300 roll this can only play safe .03 any bet. Not big enough bets for save your health fast. Need long time to grow roll.
Hi,
I'm afraid I echo all of the above warnings. This game takes years of study and even then the RFH will find you at some point.
Save your money.
I wish you all the best.
BA
How do so many people start with like 200 units and get all the way to 2000. For example, I saw johnlegend thread and he started at like 200 and went to 2000 ...
Quote from: BudskiiHD on Dec 16, 01:52 PM 2013
How do so many people start with like 200 units and get all the way to 2000. For example, I saw johnlegend thread and he started at like 200 and went to 2000 ...
That doesn't mean you can do it. Like I said, everyone's luck is different. Especially when one is gambling to make their life better.
You have to be at the right place at the right time.
Quote from: BudskiiHD on Dec 16, 01:52 PM 2013
How do so many people start with like 200 units and get all the way to 2000. For example, I saw johnlegend thread and he started at like 200 and went to 2000 ...
Nothing is quite what it seems.
Study JLs posts. I liked JL. I got ideas from his ideas....but when you look at the bigger picture...he changed the rules when he seemed to of been refuted. Big claims attract big players and they arnt mugs. Often...his posts broke down due to symantics. No one could get a true fix on the actual idea...especially when it didnt work and they started asking akward questions....then they were ignored and it became a post between him and his acolytes.
Try betselection.cc. It gets messy and embarrassing when he loses a challange monumentally.
Thats when the truth outed
I have about £316, I will give this system one last go. I will play CODE 4 ( 1,3,9 progression and stop there ). Other people in the thread have tried it and have got success not JL alone, so I guess worth a try. If at any point I fall to £280 or below. I will take advice given by you guys and and withdraw the money and put it in my bank. I think once you gain about £200-£500 in profit, it seems like your BR will just keep getting bigger and losing money would be a thing of the past with methods like CODE 4 which have a good strike rate. But the hardest part is getting some profit which you can play with .. I have tested CODE4 with live roulette and so far all wins, so I am going to give real money a try. Life is life, I guess, no easy way out. If you guys want, I'll keep you updated.
Bud,
I do agree with JLs philosophy that you have to start with a very small BR and build up overtime to larger units bets, could take months. You should have at least ?20 times your total betting amount as capital. If like in CODE4 you have a 81 unit total bet you should have at least 1620 units to bet with. You should in my opinion have a winning goal, perhaps ?3000 units and stop playing the method for it is not a grail. Also have, as you do, a loss limit, perhaps half of your BR?
Starting with .10 unit bets your BR would be $162
I am no expert but my philosophy is to play a variety of methods with a win goal, losing limit and ONE TIME BR to play roulette with. If you lose this amount walk away from the game.
You really have to formulate a game plan and this could take months.
Studying ProofReaders2000 system selections and playing them with a certain win goal and losing limits could help you to be successful?
Please do listen to Turners sound advice!
"3. Have no detrimental effect on your life or finances"
BudskiiHD, my friend,
Take your 316 units and pick which is your favorite color or numbers and place a single bet with it. Should you win, walk out of the casino and tell everyone it's impossible to win at this game, but luck may be on your side one day. Should you lose, walk out of the casino and tell everyone it's impossible to win at this game, but luck may be on your side one day. Either way, win or lose, you are done and it's for the better.
My two cents. Best of luck .....
WG
Quote from: BudskiiHD on Dec 17, 03:47 PM 2013
I have about £316, I will give this system one last go. I will play CODE 4 ( 1,3,9 progression and stop there ). Other people in the thread have tried it and have got success not JL alone, so I guess worth a try. If at any point I fall to £280 or below. I will take advice given by you guys and and withdraw the money and put it in my bank. I think once you gain about £200-£500 in profit, it seems like your BR will just keep getting bigger and losing money would be a thing of the past with methods like CODE 4 which have a good strike rate. But the hardest part is getting some profit which you can play with .. I have tested CODE4 with live roulette and so far all wins, so I am going to give real money a try. Life is life, I guess, no easy way out. If you guys want, I'll keep you updated.
If you are willing to lose and have time on your hand here is what I would do if I were you.(Just reading from your post looks like you are in dear need.) Sit at the table with a paper and a pen, write down numbers from 0-36 and every time a number hits cancel it out. Count the number of spins at the same time as you are cancelling. Add your spin count when a number repeats and ignore it if it has already been crossed out. When you reach a spin count of 200 and you have 1 number left. Try using a 1 number progression and play with your 316. If I were you that's what I would do if I was willing to lose the 316 . Remember that 1 number could sleep for another 300+ spins. It's your choice.
Quote from: BudskiiHD on Dec 17, 03:47 PM 2013
I have about £316, I will give this system one last go. I will play CODE 4 ( 1,3,9 progression and stop there ). Other people in the thread have tried it and have got success not JL alone, so I guess worth a try. If at any point I fall to £280 or below. I will take advice given by you guys and and withdraw the money and put it in my bank. I think once you gain about £200-£500 in profit, it seems like your BR will just keep getting bigger and losing money would be a thing of the past with methods like CODE 4 which have a good strike rate. But the hardest part is getting some profit which you can play with .. I have tested CODE4 with live roulette and so far all wins, so I am going to give real money a try. Life is life, I guess, no easy way out. If you guys want, I'll keep you updated.
Do not do that.......rather bet 3 lines/after you se 4 unique ones/And I assure you
will have your 316 saved......will you win?????Could,probably......but won't lose.All flat bet.
Making it clearer
flat.... bet last 3 lines....when 4 unique
Exact......parallely with playing DB....am only testing this,my favorite EC bet,especially if you have
opportunity playing it simunt.on several tables.Avoids lot of zeros.
Quote from: teo on Dec 18, 06:51 AM 2013
Do not do that.......rather bet 3 lines/after you se 4 unique ones/And I assure you
will have your 316 saved......will you win?????Could,probably......but won't lose.All flat bet.
4 random spin sets, final results:
-12
+9
-1
-6
So I withdraw all the money but £40. I can afford to lose this.
I lost a 1-3-9 progression early on, but then recovered. I am playing with £0.5 units. I know my units are too big for only £40 bankroll, but I don't want to be here all my life playing with pennies. I'll either get wiped out and forget about roulette or I might get lucky and win a little.
It is 11:13 PM and I am going to wrap it up for today.
CODE 4
Overall Stats
Wins 32
Losses 1
Win Rate 97%
Start Bank £40.00
Current Bank £43.00
Bank Change 8%
P/L £3.00
Progression Wins
1st Win 21
2nd Win 3
3rd Win 8
Well, the progression definitely seems to be the killer here. I was thinking of playing FOR the pattern rather than against it..
4 step progression 1-1-2-3 only a loss of 7 units. It does seem to have potential, I'm not sure .. needs some testing.
Bud,
Why not test it a little?
How many times will you lose an entirely new method twice within 7 EC games using a progression of 7 units??
If you make it past 7 EC games stop playing the method after the first loss.
If you lose within the first 7 EC games double your initial betting amount for just 1 game and start a new method.
I think roulette might boil down to this without a method which can win longterm.
Quote from: amk on Dec 18, 07:13 PM 2013
Bud,
Why not test it a little?
How many times will you lose an entirely new method twice within 7 EC games using a progression of 7 units??
If you make it past 7 EC games stop playing the method after the first loss.
If you lose within the first 7 EC games double your initial betting amount for just 1 game and start a new method.
I think roulette might boil down to this without a method which can win longterm.
I'll test it.
amk, whats the final verdict on CODE4 do you still play it?
Hi all,
Hope you are all doing well.
I have decided to stop playing CODE4, because for me it is simply too risky. I have hit 4th progression step 3 times now and luckily been saved 3 times.
My current bankroll is £50, £10 up from starting.
I am probably waiting to get wiped out, so I can forget about roulette, but lets see how far luck takes me. I'm not really bothered if I lose the £50, the rest of the money is in my bank account.
TwoCatSam, I'm considering playing G.U.T, I have read your thread on Winkel's G.U.T on betselection (you made quite a profit) and I am curious, a year gone by, what do you think of G.U.T? Meanwhile, I have to read that 80 page thread on VLS roulette, and understand the whole system and watch your videos too ( I have seen the 40 minute one where you went from £275 to £315 ).
I can play with £0.1 chips, £50 BR = 500 units.
I have not played the G.U.T. in ages. May again someday.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 21, 11:51 AM 2013
I have not played the G.U.T. in ages. May again someday.
It will be soon you will be playing GUT. One of the best current trend explanation.
I couldn't have done it any better myself with the way it has been explained.
Hi again for the final time,
I played GUT and had a few winning sessions and then one session took wiped me out, to be honest, I am quite glad it did. I have learnt a lesson from gambling, I have lost money in the past few months tried to find a way to earn money from roulette to make my life better. But life isn't that easy, I will never return to gambling, life is much better without it especially the f****** heart attacks when you wait for the ball to land. I have also wasted past few months and am behind with other stuff in life which I should be doing, now this shit is out of the way I can work and sort that out. I wish I had never even tried to gamble. But it's all good, lesson learnt. Not such huge losses in past few months, but this lesson will prevent me from trying to gamble again.
Thank God, I withdraw £276.
I need to realise, even with my medical condition ( which to be honest is nothing major, but still ) I am incredibly lucky with all other aspects of my life, could of been worse. I'll work for it and earn money and hopefully sort it out within 10 years.
Peace out guys.
Quote from: BudskiiHD on Dec 21, 02:56 PM 2013
Hi again for the final time,
I played GUT and had a few winning sessions and then one session took wiped me out, to be honest, I am quite glad it did. I have learnt a lesson from gambling, I have lost money in the past few months tried to find a way to earn money from roulette to make my life better. But life isn't that easy, I will never return to gambling, life is much better without it especially the f****** heart attacks when you wait for the ball to land. I have also wasted past few months and am behind with other stuff in life which I should be doing, now this shit is out of the way I can work and sort that out. I wish I had never even tried to gamble. But it's all good, lesson learnt. Not such huge losses in past few months, but this lesson will prevent me from trying to gamble again.
Thank God, I withdraw £276.
I need to realise, even with my medical condition ( which to be honest is nothing major, but still ) I am incredibly lucky with all other aspects of my life, could of been worse. I'll work for it and earn money and hopefully sort it out within 10 years.
Peace out guys.
Wish you all the best for the future. Respect to you for your decision.
JL - Code 4 & other pattern betting (If my memory is correct) was always advocating that it be played as HIT & RUN (H & R) at live B & M casinos only.
JL said that it SHOULDN'T be played continuously, not on line, not RNG or auto wheel.
I play my version of H & R (code 3) when I go to my local B & M casino. The code 3 comes from the progressions 1, 2, 4. = 7 units & the EC 3 choices H/L, O/E, R/B. I play them as opposite to , in order, off the bottom number of the marquee. Any win - run (leave) from that table. Any L3 loss also = run. The run is not far, to the next randomly selected table (table numbers on bits of paper from pocket). I get a bit tired walking between tables over time as the distance adds up after a couple of hours (oh the poor 'ol fellas runnin' out of legs)). I've done ok, I've still got the $800 bucks here I won months ago with it.
I'll hopefully return in the New Year once my blood pressure stabilises.