keep an eye on one dozen, every number hit in each street.
Trigger: bet those two unhit numbers of that single street that hit twice (same number).
flatbet, except if the same number hits in that street - then double bets.
what happened to you posting your new ideas in the notepad like Iggy asked you to do ??
O0
what's the use of a rouletteforum if you can't post ideas? it's not my problem that you are un-creative... OK i have just tested this now with good results. and by "good result" i mean it has survived 5 trials...
copyweed 2014 _\|/_
Quote from: ignatus on Jan 02, 06:27 PM 2014
what's the use of a rouletteforum if you can't post ideas? it's not my problem that you are un-creative... OK i have just tested this now with good results. and by "good result" i mean it has survived 5 trials...
copyweed 2014 _\|/_
What the point of ANY forum if members don't abide to Moderators requests ?
You have no idea how creative / uncreative I am......
People here keep on offering you advice, which to start with you agree with, you then just go back to your normal ways. Members suggest that you flat bet, but no those progressions keep on popping up. You get an idea, post it, say it works then bin it after a v v v short time......
I will say it again, for somebody who smokes weed you sure are a spikey kinda guy :(
I will NEVER answer to you again ok ?
& don't worry if I am EVER "creative" you will be the last to know ;)
O0
your complaints are unnecessary, this is a perfect trigger. and it has survived 10 spin-trials now...you should be thankful
The original idea was inspired from mr.J, and combining hot and cold - one hot street with two cold numbers ...this IS flatbetting, and it IS a strong trigger. prove me wrong, now try play it instead and you'll see.
10 / 10 successful spintrials (and i've only played it on RNG!)
on betvoyager: to get free spins, place a 0.01 bet on low and autospin... as soon as a repeater shows, check that street if any other numbers in between has been hit, if not that's a working trigger.
they way i did these "spintrials" with a 5u bet win minimum 200u. and i did just that 10 times in a row now, 5 times at betvoyager.com, 5 times at sverigeautomaten.com... alright
4/5 won spintrials @ paddypower
ok i figured out a good way to play this; use stoploss after 18 spins, (then look for a new trigger) next bet 2u... +1 bet after each lost trigger (18 spins)....-1u after each win....cyclic progression
another story, played this now on Eurogrand, and after a drawdown i had 3000u, alright i thought now I'm going to play this with the green goblins (25u bet), with the progression and stoploss i won 3000u ended up 6000u. hah! ;D
Dear Ignatus!
Can you show me how to play c***tail party with some numbers, please?
ok: The rules are simple; wait for the first street to be hit twice (same number). This is the trigger - (bet the 2 unhit numbers of that street) 18 spin for each trigger. +1/-1 cyclic progression ...
34
8
33
16
0
9
15
36
8 - This is not a valid trigger, since nine has been hit in between
6
24
5
28
33 (this is a valid trigger but not within 10 numbers range)
7
3
4
26
34
2
36
4
0
24
10
8
13
14
6
13 -this is not a valid trigger 14 has been hit
6 -TRIGGER. (6 hit two times) 4 & 5 is bet
20
26
9
16
3
6 -6 hit again. double bets
26 -valid trigger
20
12
15
5 -HIT. (look for a new trigger) looking back in history, 26 is a valid trigger 25 & 27 is bet
2
3
14
2
18
18 -valid trigger
2
11
36
14
25 -HIT...18 is a trigger, 16 & 17 is bet.
9
24
5
4
11
23
12
30
12
8
34
13
22
7
5
13
12
10 -no hit. (stoploss after 18 spins) look for a new trigger
12 -not a valid trigger.
1
32
18
5
10
24
11
18
17
11 -Trigger; 10 & 12 is bet (2u) progression after 1 loss +1u
24
24
24
23
24
32
5
6
31
3
27
20
5
33
6
18
25
4 -no hit. look for new trigger
12
2
21
18
18 -Trigger. 16 & 17 is bet. (3u)
33
7
6
12
16
8
28
34
30
9
18 -double bets. (6u)
11
11
16 JACKPOT!!!!! *HIT*
Jackpot.....lol
Not too shabby an idea ignatus.
Thanks for explanation dear Ignatus!
You found very interesting trigger...
Thanks. ;) yes, and you know i've only played this on RNG, and yet it's working very well, (to my suprise) 14/15 games won yesterday, and NOW testing this on a real wheel (real spins) i think results are still better than i expected... the progression might be risky,? but flatbetting with stoploss after 18 spins is always an option...
"the progression might be risky,? but flatbetting with stoploss after 18 spins is always an option..."
or .....bet the street?....
vundarosa
Quote from: vundarosa on Jan 03, 10:12 AM 2014
"the progression might be risky,? but flatbetting with stoploss after 18 spins is always an option..."
or .....bet the street?....
vundarosa
sure that can also work,.. my original idea was to combine a hot/cold in one bet, my inspiration was from mr.J, really..i was reading some of his strategies, and i understand NOW .....that betting 1-4 numbers is the best bet. To be honest i haven't had this success with ANY trigger before like this one...cheers
Ignatus......you amaze me really.
Youve gone from the sh..test idea you ever had to one of the best.
Why do i like it.?
It bets on repeats with a twist.....it actually bets on close numbers (I like close numbers :) )
It plays affordable.
Its obvious when to stop. It can win big time.
the trigger is good and makes sense to me.
My tests have been good.
Also, in a casino, its a pen and paper job. No heavy tracking.
I'm pretty suprised myself this trigger worked so good...
Thanks Turner :)
Quote from: ignatus on Jan 02, 05:55 PM 2014
keep an eye on one dozen, every number hit in each street.
Trigger: bet those two unhit numbers of that single street that hit twice (same number).
flatbet, except if the same number hits in that street - then double bets.
Question: Say your street is 1 2 3. Then to have a trigger, 1 must hit twice before the others hit once. Same with 2 and 3. So, how does the red apply?
Also, later on, you speak of a ten-spin window. I can't find the rule on that. If you feel this is good, I'll pay Nick to bot it and we'll really find out.
Explain the rules so a dunce (me) can understand them.
(If Turner is interested, it must be good!! See, Turner, I do read your every word!! ;))
TwoCat
Sam, took me also some time to understand this system but it easy (if i got it right)
so you look for a repeater in 1 street, the 2 other nbrs in that street may not appear between the repeat.
If you have the trigger bet the 2 not repeated nbr in that street.
I tried on DB and on a RNG and both worked out well...
But I think betting the street can have better return because then you can capture the 3th time repeat of the trigger what happens in 30% of the time on RNG...
Spin
Yes, I got that part. What I don't get is my red above and his statement about ten spins. I'll not pay $25 to have this botted unless I fully understand it.
Sam
"my inspiration was from mr.J, really..i was reading some of his strategies, and i understand NOW .....that betting 1-4 numbers is the best bet" >>> Been saying it for YEARS, 2-4 numbers people. Trust me.
Ken
Hello Ignatus,
Thanks for your interesting system. While betting and before a win, new triggers may appear.
Do you include the new triggers in your bet? Or do you continue to play the original trigger till a hit or stop loss?
Regards and Best Wishes
You can adapt this to suit your own playing style. i tried just now flatbet all triggers at dublinbet, and it wasn't so bad... playing with a single trigger...it can be discouraging when 2 triggers in a row don't hit, ...i don't know, the rules are not decided yet and it haven't been tested enough to see how to play this in the best way,..i leave that to the experts. ;)
what is more i think calculating the spins gives you mental stress,(especially playing live) so for me i prefer playing with all triggers that appear and remove each trigger as they hit. this may not be the best option, but it's the most easy and stressfree way to play...a tracker would makes things easier, but then again: more testing is needed to figure out the best way to play...cheers :)
i take back my statement playing with several triggers. i tried that and failed. so learning from this then and taking Mr.J advice, not more than 2 triggers should be played 2-4 numbers, right. Any kind of progression is dangerous, so i don't know what to say about that. Perhaps a postive progression is better?
Played this one now for real with 0.1 for 2 hrs playing the streets variant and made 15euro....
QuotePlayed this one now for real with 0.1 for 2 hrs playing the streets variant and made 15euro....
Repeater in 10 spins and You bet street for 12 spins?
Repeat within 8, keep flatbet until win.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jan 03, 05:54 PM 2014
(If Turner is interested, it must be good!! See, Turner, I do read your every word!! ;))
TwoCat
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Lol....I havnt got a fkin clue what Im doing
Played for 1 hr, down 5 euro. The 2 dealer managed to generate some close repeaters, but then managed to only hit the street again after like 20 spins...
What I noted then, the managed to hit like 2nbrs in the other streets often.
this gonna be moved to notepad since there are so many great ideas Ignatus has that it is hard to sort out good ones from the best and simply genious. When it becomes clear and casinos will have to shut down roulette because of these ideas i promise to move them back.
It's too good to be in notepad dear Iggiv :)
Perhaps democracy isnt prefered....people will start posting because they like the post if you arnt careful.
ok did something stupid... well played for real on rng with some twist made 20euro playing 0.1 in 30 min.
the twist, wait for 2-3 virtual losses, then bet 1 unit on the DS where the repeat happend, do this untill a hit, incase it hits the street of the repeat, look for next trigger. incase hit hits the other street in that DS, start now to bet the street of the repeat... sometimes you will make a small loss on the DS, but the street hits like within 4 spins then, so overall its a win.
Quote from: Spin4Fun on Jan 04, 06:01 PM 2014
ok did something silly... well played for real on rng with some twist made 20euro playing 0.1 in 30 min.
the twist, wait for 2-3 virtual losses, then bet 1 unit on the DS where the repeat happend, do this until a hit, incase it hits the street of the repeat, look for next trigger. incase hit hits the other street in that DS, start now to bet the street of the repeat... sometimes you will make a small loss on the DS, but the street hits like within 4 spins then, so overall its a win.
Hi!
Can you show us with a couple of spins how you play this twist of this good system, please!
agesta
ok my twist.
5
4
10
30
4 ->trigger repeat 4 - bet DS 1-6 until a hit
32
16
26
1 -> DS hit - > now place bet on street 4-6 (2 units profit)
12
10
9
21
5 - >win (8 unit win - total 10 units win, where normal it would be 3 units)
ok his is the ideal world, but even of the DS does not win in 6 spins, you make overall more profit
so that would be
trigger bet DS
L L L L L L L W would make -2 profit (win is not the street to bet from trigger)
bet street
L L L L L W make +4total profit, where if you start direct bettig street stop at 12 spins would end -12
what can happen
L L L L L L L W would make -2 profit (win is the street to bet from trigger)
now you need to make the gamble, stop here and take -2 units.
Or try to bet the street again..
there are many rules you can think of...
Quote from: Spin4Fun on Jan 05, 05:06 AM 2014
ok my twist.
5
4
10
30
4 ->trigger repeat 4 - bet DS 1-6 until a hit
32
16
26
1 -> DS hit - > now place bet on street 4-6 (2 units profit)
12
10
9
21
5 - >win (8 unit win - total 10 units win, where normal it would be 3 units)
ok his is the ideal world, but even of the DS does not win in 6 spins, you make overall more profit
so that would be
trigger bet DS
L L L L L L L W would make -2 profit (win is not the street to bet from trigger)
bet street
L L L L L W make +4total profit, where if you start direct bettig street stop at 12 spins would end -12
what can happen
L L L L L L L W would make -2 profit (win is the street to bet from trigger)
now you need to make the gamble, stop here and take -2 units.
Or try to bet the street again..
there are many rules you can think of...
Thank`s a lot!
agesta
Could this be used as trigger for a kind of parachute, but instead of going for single numbers, we go for 2 numbers...
1 spin - bet 1 unit on the EC the trigger is /LOW or HIGH
1 spin - bet 1 unit on the dozen the trigger is
3 spins - bet 1 unit on the DS the trigger is
6 spins - bet 1 unit on the Street
we can then stop here and take the loss if no hits, or we can continue a bit more and bet the two individual numbers with 1 unit in each for more 12 spins
All of this always flat betting 1 unit *2 units when we bet 2 numbers*, losing at most 35 units if no hits.
there are many options, i did add trigger play dozen, the DS then street