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Post by: warrior on Jan 04, 08:11 PM 2014
If you win flat bet 100 units on 4000 paced bets would this be a wining bet.
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Post by: warrior on Jan 04, 09:20 PM 2014
Lets say 15 units is the lowest draw down and 19 the highest wins would this be a winning bet?
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Post by: TwoCatSam on Jan 04, 09:46 PM 2014
I would certainly play it.
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Post by: amk on Jan 04, 09:55 PM 2014
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Post by: Skakus on Jan 04, 10:19 PM 2014
Quote from: warrior on Jan 04, 08:11 PM 2014
If you win flat bet 100 units on 4000 paced bets would this be a wining bet.

Of course it is!

Just don't make another 4000 bets because the answer could be very different.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: warrior on Jan 04, 10:25 PM 2014
Quote from: Skakus on Jan 04, 10:19 PM 2014
Of course it is!

Just don't make another 4000 bets because the answer could be very different.  :thumbsup:
This is true but what formula would you use for a stop-win not loss?
Also if you can find a way to put more money when your bet is winning and protect your profits when the bets are losing then you have  a good bet I would think .
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Post by: Azim on Jan 04, 11:55 PM 2014
Quote from: warrior on Jan 04, 10:25 PM 2014
This is true but what formula would you use for a stop-win not loss?
Also if you can find a way to put more money when your bet is winning and protect your profits when the bets are losing then you have  a good bet I would think .

I would first have to know a few things before answering your question:

However for starters here is what I do:"(everyone has their own comfort level)"
This is me playing:
Aim to play +/-300 spins.
I start with a session bankroll of 600 Units.(Willing to lose it all, have faith in my own ability or the bot playing).

I end my session with a win of +200 units or lose all 600 units or +/- 300 spins, whichever comes first.
If I am at 300th spin and I have been betting, I carry on till I either win the current trigger or lose my current session bankroll. (I know my triggers take 10-12 spins and I normally hit by the 3rd spin which means 15 playing spins)
300 - 15 = 285. If my last win was 285 spins or above, my session just ended.

I decide if I reach +150 units in less than 150 spins, I take a new session bankroll(600 units) and start again.( If I lose I really have only lost 450 Units).

If I win 150 units again before the 150th spin, I loop again to start a new session.

Which means my wins are really not 200 unit's they are more.

The reason why i do this is 2 fold's: 

1) I am lucky on that day and am taking advantage of my luck.
2) If I am playing RNG (which I do most of the time), I go to my first point and say, the Random Generator and my luck have both matched and I take advantage of it with the systems I am playing.

Like I said, everyone has their own comfort level.


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Post by: warrior on Jan 20, 11:46 AM 2014
Quote from: Skakus on Jan 04, 10:19 PM 2014
Of course it is!

Just don't make another 4000 bets because the answer could be very different.  :thumbsup:

Ok 4000 more bets  and 37 unit profit grand total of 137 units 8000 placed bets flat bet ,17 is the most drawn down and 19 the highest would any of you play this ? And how .
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Post by: warrior on Jan 20, 12:33 PM 2014
If 17 is the lowest and 19 the highest  how would you put a formula to this?
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Post by: warrior on Jan 21, 07:52 AM 2014
Wow not one response.
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Post by: Big EZ on Jan 21, 08:54 AM 2014
When you say 17 is the lowest, does that mean your longest losing run?
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Post by: warrior on Jan 21, 09:10 AM 2014
Quote from: Big EZ on Jan 21, 08:54 AM 2014
When you say 17 is the lowest, does that mean your longest losing run?
Yes in one session.
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Post by: Big EZ on Jan 21, 10:49 AM 2014
I personally would not try and use a progression on an even chance bet selection that losses 17 times in a row..

Do you have other stats that can help break down the variance of your method?
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Post by: warrior on Jan 21, 11:49 AM 2014
Quote from: Big EZ on Jan 21, 10:49 AM 2014
I personally would not try and use a progression on an even chance bet selection that losses 17 times in a row..

Do you have other stats that can help break down the variance of your method?
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It's not losing 17 in a row .This is for a session, session last for about 2 hours 51 placed bets ,this thread is for brainstorming how would you improve these stats, 8000 placed bets 17 is the lowest and 19 being the highest.
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Post by: warrior on Jan 21, 11:53 AM 2014
I will post the losing  session later on so you can exam it and see how you would make it better.In the mean time we can all think about this one .
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Post by: warrior on Jan 21, 03:20 PM 2014
 Here are the results lets see how good everyone here is on making this  session into a winning one .Remember that this one is the only one that lost 17units flat betting there was a profit of 137 units within 8000 placed bets that's  20000 spins for those who think that the amount of spins are important not for me ,it's placed bets that count.here we go


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Post by: warrior on Jan 21, 08:43 PM 2014
Wow  no one can make this a winning bet by using the lw s and play around with the results .interesting
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Post by: Big EZ on Jan 21, 09:55 PM 2014
Use an 8 step progression you only have 7L in a row  >:D



Just posting this one session nobody will be able to help you, it would just be reverse engineering the bet.

You would have to provide more facts, which I asked about before.

Whats your Longest Losing Run?
Whats your average losses in a row?

And any other important data sets that you may have
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Post by: warrior on Jan 21, 11:41 PM 2014
Marty out of the ?  Systems with Marty always end in hell.  12 in a row is the longest L in a row this is why you can't approach roulette conventional  it  has to be unconventional .So this is why  people should look  for methods  that wins flat bet .
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Post by: warrior on Jan 21, 11:46 PM 2014
If a bet can't win flat than we have no biz playing any game in the casinos we should take up another job,or like two cats wife said find an Easier way of losing your money .
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Post by: Big EZ on Jan 21, 11:59 PM 2014
It doesnt have to be unconventional it just has to be practical.


Here is a recent chart of 1k placed bets, all flat betting.

(i know it says spins on bottom but I just made a chart from my W/L registry so its actual bets and not spins)




There is no way to help you improve your system by just posting a W/L result. The only things your going to get from people is bet after x losses or bet after no double wins in x attempts. If you want to improve what your doing (winning more losing less) your going to have to open up a little bit
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Post by: vladir on Jan 22, 05:43 AM 2014
Quote from: warrior on Jan 21, 11:49 AM 2014
   

It's not losing 17 in a row .This is for a session, session last for about 2 hours 51 placed bets ,this thread is for brainstorming how would you improve these stats, 8000 placed bets 17 is the lowest and 19 being the highest.

I'm not sure what you expect anyone here to improve when no one except maybe you knows what it is...