This is a bet based on visual ballistics; the old 11-sector of the wheel is bet, but now 10 numbers opposite the wheel has been added. (see pic) so if 0 would hit the bet would be as in the picture
this is the most common movement in my subjective opinion, when observing one spin in relation to another. what is most probable to happen? a repeating sector yes or the opposite will hit in a particular Y formation
a short test:
WLWLLLWWWLWLLLWLWLWLWWWLWWWLLLLWLWWWLLWWLWWLWLWWLWLWLLWWW
31/56=55% hitrate
21/37=57% hitrate ("normal" hitrate for 21 numbers)
(the tracker is almost finished for those who want to test it, but impractical to bet 21 straight ups, so i have to change it to splits and and streets wherever possible...)
any testing of this tracker is appreciated
we'll see if this was a wasted effort... tracker is finished, using all possible splits bet has been reduced to 11-13u bet.
First test Live @dublinbet: LWWLLLLWWWLWLLWWWWWLWLLWLLLWWWWLWWWLLWWWWWWLLW
it's not all good, had a bad session at db. recovery seems hard. perhaps this is yet another failure? chances are that it will only work short term, .... i will do more testings tomorrow
test 1...Flatbet (from livespins)
Live @dublinbet: WWWLWWWLWWWLWWLWLWLLWLWWLLLWWWLLLWLWWWLLLWWWWLLLLLWWLLWLWWLW
i ended up +250 (flatbet)
That can be stressful to place all bets within the timelimit, but there is just enough time if you are quick placing the bets
Test 2. playing with the green goblins (25u bet)...from livespins (flatbet)
IF you are using my tracker, least you could do is tell how you're doing.
I will test it tomorrow :)
Test 3. (5u bet) flatbet
im thinking program this into the rx-bot....if possible anyone know how rx-bot works?
the basic idea is not that bad, but...as always you fall in the same trap. Fixed patterns like this are not gonna work. You have to change the pattern. Take different numbers, different angles and do not try to win many times in the row.
Quote from: iggiv on Jan 29, 12:31 PM 2014
the basic idea is not that bad, but...as always you fall in the same trap. Fixed patterns like this are not gonna work. You have to change the pattern. Take different numbers, different angles and do not try to win many times in the row.
well, all i can say is results are better than expected, but this bet is based on a the most common movement, when observing one spin in relation to another, it's visual ballistics observing livespins
you just don't get it. You look at roulette as something simple. It is not. If this was regular movement of roulette on consistent basis, roulette would not exist in a casino. Because casino would lose money. Everyone would use it and win all the time. It's so simple. But if u watch different wheels on different occasions u will see that this "common" movement is not that common. I mean there will be times when there gonna be very little of those movements.
Ignatus,
Please don't be despondent some of us view this forum and never say much :-X I love and take heart from your posts.
If it is any Consolation I have completed a 37 spin test and here is the results.
LWWWWLWLLWLLWLWWWWLLLLLLLLWWWLWWLWLLW
Koolkat
Thanks Koolkat for testing.
iggiv, yes, maybe i've just been "lucky" with these 300 spins i done so far? i have done all i can, and I'm sure you don't realize the work behind this but that doesn't matter, as long it can make some profit I'm happy. and you haven't really tested it, so how can you say it's not working ?
these particular movements i have observed on the live wheel to be very common, and i have done enough testings to say it works, atleast short term
Ignatus, how long have u been doing roulette stuff? i have a feeling that although u do have good ideas sometimes, but your understanding of roulette is just as same as it was when u started with it. 300 spins is NOTHING.
If u wanna be serious u can say: "I checked 20 german wheels and watched at 50 thousand spins for each and i came to conclusion...."
And even then it may be not enough to make conclusions...
Who are you to criticize me iggiv? have you yourself invented a flatbetting strategy that can survive 300 spins, no? well, i have. usually when i invent something new it shows pretty quick if it fails or not. this has not failed yet from all my testings...
Oh, i am sorry. My mistake. Won't try to help anymore. Never ever. Keep stepping on those racks over and over again. Great job!
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Quote from: iggiv on Jan 29, 03:40 PM 2014
how long have u been doing roulette stuff? i have a feeling that although u do have good ideas sometimes, but your understanding of roulette is just as same as it was when u started with it.
Sorry Ignatus, i dont intend to upset you but I just have to agree with Iggiv here.
Its like you have no memory or leaning curve.
Well having now memory has its advantage too... it does not block creativity!
Quote from: Spin4Fun on Jan 29, 05:45 PM 2014
Well having now memory has its advantage too... it does not block creativity!
Fair comment....
But to come up with "The Juggler" ,which was a great attempt then 2 years later you consider waiting for a Dozen to sleep for 4 spins then bet with progression...
Thats just......well.....Ignatus!!
dont forget who are u talking to. The man is genius. Have u ever had a strategy winning flat bet 300 spins? Wow!
Turner, iggiv im sorry who is wrong here, really? you haven't even *tried* playing it, you haven't even tested it, and yet you come with all your "wise" comments... first of all, do you realize the work i put down on this tracker for an example? no... you say im not learning from my mistakes? really? you see the 11-sector didn't work from the beginning, so i continued improving that bet, and now it works better. i said this bet is based on visual ballistics.....i have done enough testings to say it works. still you don't believe me, 300 spins doesn't matter? really? what matters to you then? how much proof you need?
in the end, it doesn't matter what i say, because you still want to put me down, you have something personal against me so it justifies your means, even though im forced to use notepad, you come here and critize me now again, and you have no right to critize something you DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT SINCE YOU HAVE NEVER PLAYED IT, YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN TESTED IT
Next time, I want to see proof. no cheap talk. i have done my part, now it's up to you to prove me wrong by acual testing and gameplay, i want to see results before your claims
Dear Ignatus,
Cound'nt sleep so decided to do manual testing on excel. Anyway 3982 spins later flat betting you have a result of 939 profit. Please bear in mind i started this at 4am UK time so basically it has taken me nearly 3 and half hour so there maybe a couple of mistakes, I haven't had a chance to double check yet.
Koolkat
Thanks Koolkat for testing, im really glad to hear that.
No Worries Ignatus, I notice something else which I will come back to you with later I have to go to work now.
Have a good day ;D
K
Thanks :) im trying to program this into rx now, see how it goes
link:://:.uxsoftware.com/download/RX_Scripting_for_Roulette_Xtreme.pdf (link:://:.uxsoftware.com/download/RX_Scripting_for_Roulette_Xtreme.pdf)
Calm down Ignatus mate. I just wish you would stick at one thing for a while. If this is so good and I have to test it....why will you be presenting something completly different in 3 days. Thats all Im saying.
Quote from: Turner on Jan 30, 03:17 AM 2014
Calm down Ignatus mate. I just wish you would stick at one thing for a while. If this is so good and I have to test it....why will you be presenting something completly different in 3 days. that's all I'm saying.
im not sticking with a system as long as it fails, but obviously more testing is needed, and i really need to get this to work with rx-scripting... we'll see
Good luck with that one. I struggled with RX. Ive managed to doctor existing ones but never from scratch. Just a manual tool now....one I hammer daily
i've done it. it was not so hard, like this :
if number 0 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on split(3-0)
put 1 unit on split(1-4)
put 1 unit on split(11-12)
put 1 unit on split(14-15)
put 1 unit on split(13-16)
put 1 unit on split(19-20)
put 1 unit on split(32-33)
put 1 unit on split(35-36)
put 1 unit on number 6
put 1 unit on number 21
put 1 unit on number 26
put 1 unit on number 28
put 1 unit on number 30
end
if number 1 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on number 3
put 1 unit on number 9
put 1 unit on number 10
put 1 unit on number 20
put 1 unit on number 24
put 1 unit on split(1-0)
put 1 unit on split(5-6)
put 1 unit on split(14-15)
put 1 unit on split(16-17)
put 1 unit on split(22-25)
put 1 unit on split(26-27)
put 1 unit on split(31-34)
put 1 unit on split(32-33)
end
i've only done 5 numbers so far, and it doesn't look good when running some test
Quotei've only done 5 numbers so far, and it doesn't look good when running some test
Now there's a suprise, how strange. :o
you can make fun of me, right, but atleast i was the one doing all the work: inventing the strategy. program all 37 different bets. making the tracker. doing manual testing for 300 spins, that is 21*300 =6300 bets, for manual testing and then program and running it in rx. took me 3 days. what have you done except complain superman? come up with something better yourself
it's all a learning experience. and i've learned some good things from this (like how to program rx...)
but this thread/strategy is dead now.
thank you
Ignatus i tried and tested such things long long time ago, and not just on 300 spins like u but rather on long long periods. What u r trying to do is the day before yesterday for me. But u don't need advices. You know better. Good luck. It was a last time when i gave u my opinion about what u r doing. You like to listen to yourself only and u don't take advices. So keep doing a great job by stepping on the same rack.
U consider yourself a genius who is the only one to come up with such ideas, but they were tried long long time ago already, and by many people.
There is a guy Katilla, which long time ago checked different angles, different combinations of numbers to work with those angles and he did not claim himself to be a genius like u. And he did much bigger job than u. What u r doing is only a small part of what he did.
Ok, that's enough bout it. Keep it up, big guy.
by the way i had a good advice to how to make your job with RX easier and more productive, but i won't give it to u. No help from me anymore. Thanx to your nice behaviour. Good luck.
Quotewhat have you done except complain superman? come up with something better yourself
I've been coding roulette methods for over 7 years now, still am coding them.
The reason I stopped posting them years ago is because they ALL fail, live with it.
Atleast now after your 3 days learning RX you can code it, test it, forget it and move on to the next idea WITHOUT telling us about it.
Geez, we're beating the H out of ignatus today. He DOES post in the notepad and we don't HAVE to read him.
I agree! What he posts is "Old Hat", but let's just let him run with the wind.
Frankly, I like the guy!
Sam
He has to learn how to behave. If u give this guy an inch he will try to take a mile. if u don't react accordingly he will turn this forum into a nest of snakes. Just going personal with everybody on every occasion he finds. NO-NO. I won't let it happen. This is a friendly forum. If u criticize someone's views on roulette it has nothing to do with attacks on personality.
I don't mind his roulette "discoveries" as long as he does not flood the main forum sections. but this guy has other issues as well. Now he will have a day to take a rest and become nice again.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jan 30, 12:25 PM 2014
Geez, we're beating the H out of ignatus today. He DOES post in the notepad and we don't HAVE to read him.
I agree! What he posts is "Old Hat", but let's just let him run with the wind.
Frankly, I like the guy!
Sam
I totally agree 2catsam, I have looked at the same amount of spins as earlier today but from a different angle just betting the straight up numbers excluding the splits profit is 856.
Ignatus don't give up mate
Koolkat
going this way u have to consistently change your variables. This is a game where stiff patterns don't work.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jan 30, 12:25 PM 2014
Geez, we're beating the H out of ignatus today. He DOES post in the notepad and we don't HAVE to read him.
I agree! What he posts is "Old Hat", but let's just let him run with the wind.
Frankly, I like the guy!
Sam
I like you too Ignatus ....dont get me wrong. You just confuses the hell out of me.
I can feel the love between you two Turner and Ignatus <3
It brings a tear :'-)
i hope this love to be platonic only :D
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 31, 08:01 PM 2014
I can feel the love between you two Turner and Ignatus <3
It brings a tear :'-)
He cant hold a candle to you dear Proofy