Good day,
Before you continue reading this post, I strongly recommend you to read a past thread of mine regarding an invincible system. There are two reasons why you should read it.
1. Because you will see that when I say I know a good system, it is not a lie.
2. Because you will learn that I only share things with people who can give back. Nothing is free.
That being said, I've been working on a new system. Why do I bring it up here? Because it is only usable on the Betfair site with which I have limited experience with. I actually have used the platform a lot but for football betting only - by the way, I know a foolproof football system and I'll share it with you right now: whenever PSG plays, bet everything on them because they are the best and they will always win! Long live PSG.
Back to serious matters. I trust betfair when it comes to football or live exchange events but the system I have been working on now concerns roulette, so I have a lot of doubts regarding their casino. More precisely, their exchange games.
Ok, for those who don't know the betfair platform of their exchange games, go check it out before you continue reading.
In concept they are very appealing, fun and addictive. And in concept, they represent a possible huge source of income. Imagine playing blackjack or poker, and instead of deciding which hand will win, you can bet in which one won't. Almost too good to be true, isn't it?
So I'm here to talk to you about the Bullseye roulette in their exchange games section. It's a more complex version of roulette which I'm not going to explain to you now. If you don't know about it check it out. But the point is that I have found a system that works really well with his version of roulette.
I also downloaded the software X feeder which is essentially a bot to bet automatically any system you want on betfair. Thanks to their results archives I have back tested my idea for the last year and the system has generated around 36K per month and it works because I am exploiting an event that is very very rare to happen in order to profit.
So here comes the trouble. The bullseye roulette is an RNG. In theory, it's not one we should be scared of because the money played is technically not coming from the bookmaker, but from the users themselves. If you know the betfair concept you will understand this immediately. If you don't, look up what betfair is. I.e. I back that a number will come out when another user lays that it won't. So it's user vs. user betting/exchanging their money. Betfair then makes money from a commission of that they take from every winner. At this point, all seems good, but...
After very little research over the internet, I came across worrying claims that the games are rigged. You may want to ask why would they rig the games if they make money no matter what? Apparently, it is because at some point along the way, betfair decided that to guarantee liquidity on these markets 24 hours a day, they would implement bots to put decent sums money to be lay or backed for their users all the time. Indeed, if you log in at the exchange games in the middle of the night when no one else is playing, there will still be a lot of money available for you to bet. Of course we cannot prove it, but it's most likely made available by betfair themselves. So even though it is supposed to be an exchange platform where the company profits from whatever outcomes thanks to commissions, as soon as the creator of the game has his own money in play, an obvious question arises.
Will betfair let us bet against their money, win, and leave with it?!! Or will they rig their games to make us loose in the long run...
This is why I created this thread. I thought of a system that makes you without even touching your laptop (with the use of a bot) about 12 units a day. At 100£ unit that's 36k per months!
But my system was virtually back tested on archive results. Will betfair turn on the cheating as soon as they see what I'm doing? If I was betting against other people, probably not. If I'm betting against their bots, why not?
I'm asking for your help here. Any one who has used betfair, their exchange games, or who has any valuable info to bring about the eternal debate of rng being legit or not is welcomed here. I'm sorry to open this sensitive topic again. But betfair is not the regular RNG and if by a miracle it is not fixed, I think great days are coming for us. Let's talk about this....
Of course, I will be willing to share my system if it turns out to be usable, but not publicly, as I've had a bad experience the last time I did it. This time it will only be to a selected group of people. I already have an idea of who I like and want to share with on this forum, but there is no limitations to that list...
Cheers to that
Hello Steven,
I'm sure you're right about Betfair bankrolling the exchange games, it might not have been so when they first started but it soon became essential for their viability.
That being so it will always be difficult to trust their fairness.
I only use Betfair for sports betting.
I take it that for some reason this method cannot be applied to any other roulette platform?
Robert
QuoteOf course, I will be willing to share my system if it turns out to be usable, but not publicly, as I've had a bad experience the last time I did it. This time it will only be to a selected group of people. I already have an idea of who I like and want to share with on this forum, but there is no limitations to that list
LOL, form an orderly queue people.
I know BetFair, I know x games, I have x-feeder (with time machine) and you CANNOT win long term, to win on exchange games you need an odds advantage, you will never have an advantage as the odds are calculated to work against you, they don't need to cheat random does it all on it's own.
People be ware, the thread starter has no idea what he is doing in a gambling environment, all he knows how to do is manipulate followers. In the land of the blind, the one eyed monster is king.
@steven1212
I'm interested to know how you log on to betfair, considering French players are banned ?
Thanking you in advance.... :thumbsup:
O0
And the perfect English LoL.
I'm pretty good at English seeing as I am English :thumbsup:
Thanks for your answer Trebor.
It's true that it's hard to believe in the fairness...
Yes, the strategy I've been testing is only possible on bet fair (at least as far as I know), because of the possibility to back and lay the same outcome. And the no zero is appealing to me too. I know they end up getting their edge back with the commission, but still, less chances to loose my bet in the first place.
I prefer to win and pay commission than just lose!
Cheers
Quote from: trebor on Feb 17, 03:13 AM 2014
Hello Steven,
I'm sure you're right about Betfair bankrolling the exchange games, it might not have been so when they first started but it soon became essential for their viability.
That being so it will always be difficult to trust their fairness.
I only use Betfair for sports betting.
I take it that for some reason this method cannot be applied to any other roulette platform?
Robert
Superman, sooooo gooood to hear from you!
You said something that is the only reason why I still hang on to the hope that bet fair x games aren't fixed: why would they need to fix them since they're already so advantageous for them? I don't see why. Unless someone like me found a way to
beat edit: overcome their odds. Then they would have no choice left but to rig them...
I don't know what you mean by long term, but the strategy I'm talking about has given good results over 2012 and 2013 (X-feeder time machine backtests). I'll gladly send you the screenshots if you need proof. Thanks for dropping in ! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Cheers
Quote from: superman on Feb 17, 08:13 AM 2014
LoL, form an orderly queue people.
I know BetFair, I know x games, I have x-feeder (with time machine) and you CANNOT win long term, to win on exchange games you need an odds advantage, you will never have an advantage as the odds are calculated to work against you, they don't need to cheat random does it all on it's own.
People be ware, the thread starter has no idea what he is doing in a gambling environment, all he knows how to do is manipulate followers. In the land of the blind, the one eyed monster is king.
Good day.
French citizen, belgian resident.
I also have a Colombian wife who could have helped me out if they did not accept belgians.
Cheers
Quote from: ddarko on Feb 17, 01:06 PM 2014
@steven1212
I'm interested to know how you log on to betfair, considering French players are banned ?
Thanking you in advance.... :thumbsup:
O0
mmmm...
Not sure what you're trying to say, nor if you're talking to me at all.
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Quote from: Turner on Feb 17, 01:34 PM 2014
And the perfect English LoL.
I'm pretty good at English seeing as I am English :thumbsup:
Some of you PM'd to ask why would I need a strategy on bet fair if I have a secret ingredient to my invincible system.
a. Because I can play the invincible system while the bots automatically trade for me on bet fair at the same time.
b. Greed. I know I'll risk to lose everything if I continue like that but I just can't help it... :-[ :-[
Quote from: steven1212 on Feb 17, 10:07 PM 2014
mmmm...
Not sure what you're trying to say, nor if you're talking to me at all.
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It was directed at yourself. I just noticed that your English is too correct for a french/ belgian
Dont confuse good English with correct English. Just detail you have that 2nd language people never master. Its careless to assume that people are thick
Thats all. No biggie.