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Title: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Dane on Mar 09, 02:08 PM 2014
Once again you need a pen and a piece of paper with 12x3 squares or spaces reserved for the coming numbers of the three columns. EACH SESSION ENDS WHEN AT LEAST THREE NUMBERS NEXT TO EACH OTHER IN ANY COLUMN HAVE TURNED UP.  For example 1-4-7,  20-23-26-29  or 24-27-30.  I have places my deadline right after the 120TH spin. And I have discovered that you should be able to finish FIVE SESSIONS within 120 spins.
According to my tests you should get a Straight Up hit in approx. 60% of all sessions.
I have finished 20x5 sessions (the first twenty days from 2011, table 3, Spielbank Wiesbaden) and won 299 chips or units.

I asked myself how at least three adjacent numbers in a column come.  Did 1-4-7 come with 4 filling the gab between 1 and 7?
Or did TWO adjacent numbers in the column meet one more adjacent number?
I found out that six out of ten times EXACTLY TWO ADJACENT NUMBERS meet one more number. SO I GET A HIT WHEN EXACTLY THREE ADJACENT NUMBERS IN ANY COLUMN TURN UP  AS A RESULT OF TWO ADJACENT NUMBERS PLUS ONE. NOT AS A RESULT OF TWO ISOLATED NUMBERS BEING UNITED.
So: If 1 and 4 have come (but not 10) I bet 7.
      If 20 and 23 have come (but not 14 and 29) I bet 17 and 26. And so forth and so on. 
                                                          Good luck!
                 
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Dane on Mar 10, 01:19 PM 2014
I always start with the first spin of the day (Spielbank Wiesbaden, table 3). In my test series the first 33 days of 2011 (33x5 sessions) resulted in 505 units. The average is now exactly 3.0606060606006060606060606 units per session.  It is funny to type numbers like that as long as it lasts  :)
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 10, 08:09 PM 2014
Dane like it.

I like this idea as the only thing you  know happens in roulette, is the numbers will all be hit at least once in X number of spins, so three numbers in a column is going to show.

Whats the reason for stopping as soon as the bet wins
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Dane on Mar 11, 03:22 AM 2014
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 10, 08:09 PM 2014
Dane like it.

I like this idea as the only thing you  know happens in roulette, is the numbers will all be hit at least once in X number of spins, so three numbers in a column is going to show.

Whats the reason for stopping as soon as the bet wins
Hi nettohammer!
I end as soon as three or more numbers next to each other in any column have come. As explained it gives me a hit in approx. 60% of all sessions. Surely all numbers will be hit sooner or later - maybe when the last train has left :'(
My reason for stopping so early is to avoid too long sessions. So far I  have been able to finish FIVE sessions per day within 120 spins. My own deadline right after the 120TH spin has to do with the numbers of spins in my favourite casino before midnight.
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 11, 10:17 AM 2014
Dane

what happens when another trigger appears,do you bet both or just first,but what if a third trigger appears
these numbers came today
17            2     
17            5
24                 9         11 appears so do we bet 14 to make the 3 in a row.
9              11             5 is next so do we bet 8 as well.
13       13                  2 comes so 8 is a bet, yes.
35            17            32 now shows, so 29 is to be bet as well.
11                            26 now shows, getting complicated.
5                   24       27 now shows, we bet also 21/30,still no three together.     
2              26 27       31 now shows
32                            35 again
26        31 32
27             35
31
35
2
33
31
0
3
33
33
31
34
11
0
35
29

so since the repeat of 35 we get another 13 numbers show,with 29 finaly being a win, Dane how much would this cost to play, or win                                     
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Dane on Mar 11, 12:28 PM 2014
Hi nettohammer! I know that I am not always explaining systems clearly. Examples might be better than many explanations.
But I am not sure in which order the spins in your example should be read.  I choose to concentrate on the spins to the left:
:smile:
17
17
24
9
13
35
11
5
2
32....Start betting 29.
26....Leave 29.
27....Start betting 21 & 30.
31
35
2
33....Leave 30.
31
0
3
33
33
31
34....Add 28 to your betting.
11
0
35
29. END OF SESSION! See 26-29-32-35.

Straight Up requires many units. We lost only 24 units now - but we should be prepared to lose much more.
Here is another session:
11
9
24
25
16
1
1
3
30
1
16
7
21...Start betting 18.
12...Add 15 to your betting
26
15...End of session! We hit 15. See EXACTLY three numbers next to each other in the 3RD column: 9-12-15.
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Dane on Mar 12, 01:47 PM 2014
Right after 41x5 sessions: 681 units.
Right after 46x5 sessions: 422 units.
So you ought to be have more than just a few hundred units.

Scammers >:D like to tell us, that we just need a few units -
and that our profit just gets bigger.
If we are lucky, we might survive for a long time. In long periods, however, we might be getting nowhere fast.
Right after 66x5 sessions: 657 units.
The average per day: 9.954545454.
             Per session: 1.990990909.
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 14, 02:44 PM 2014
Dane
try these from today rng, in blocks of ten

34
29
8
2
33
26
27
26
0
26

1
3
25
22
11
27
22
31
11
20

17
20
20
5      dont think doing any good,but you say to expect to loose a lot, not the idea i think
5
18
17
18
5
35

0
10
2
35
1
2
15
19
36
11

19
10
28
3
1
13
25
5
25
13

2
28
33
5
9
5
16
1
16
3     60 spins

0
32
36
36
3
20
19
2
4
21

5
6
22
27
34
13
29
8
12
34

2
7
35
21
30
5
23
22
36
25

11
32
12
21
4
21
2
29
20
16 100 spins and 35 of the 37 numbers hit.




Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Dane on Mar 15, 05:26 AM 2014
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 14, 02:44 PM 2014
Dane
try these from today rng, in blocks of ten

34
29
8
2
33
26
27
26
0
26

1
3
25
22
11
27
22
31
11
20

17
20
20
5      dont think doing any good,but you say to expect to loose a lot, not the idea i think
5
18
17
18
5
35

0
10
2
35
1
2
15
19
36
11

19
10
28
3
1
13
25
5
25
13

2
28
33
5
9
5
16
1
16
3     60 spins

0
32
36
36
3
20
19
2
4
21

5
6
22
27
34
13
29
8
12
34

2
7
35
21
30
5
23
22
36
25

11
32
12
21
4
21
2
29
20
16 100 spins and 35 of the 37 numbers hit.





Hi nettohammer! Do I trust rng? No! Nevertheless I have looked at these 100 spins. In my own test series I use to finish exactly FIVE SESSIONS within 120 spins per day. With the 100 rng spins from you I finished the 4TH session after exactly 99 spins.
After the first appearance of 5 you wrote: "dont think doing any good, but you say to expect to loose a lot, not the idea I think".
We should be prepared to lose a lot from time to time. In my own test series the profit have dropped 453 units. The idea is to have enough units to survive such periods.
It is not the same as what you should expect in the long run. Time is still important, and 100 spins does not prove anything.

When 5 came I ended the first session (no hit). See 2-5-8-11.
A new session starts with 36 blank spaces.
The second session ended right after the 59TH spin. 16 gave no hit. See 10-13-16-19.
The third session after 13, 29, 8. Hit! In the 2ND column 2&5 met 8. See EXACTLY three numbers side by side there: 2-5-8.
The fourth session ended with 29  (Hit)in the 99TH spin. 32&35 met 29. See EXACTLY three adjacent numbers written in the 2ND column: 29-32-35.

In my own continued test series I have now survived 105x5 sessions. 525 sessions. From the first 105 days of 2011, table 3, Spielbank Wiesbaden.
Profit: 896 units. 896/525 = 1.706666666666666666 :)
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 15, 09:11 AM 2014
cheers Dane,

hope the numbers helped, even if rng.
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Dane on Mar 15, 09:51 AM 2014
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 15, 09:11 AM 2014
cheers Dane,

hope the numbers helped, even if rng.
Always glad to help! :) I  have just played chess; maybe we have deserved a cup of coffee.
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 15, 01:27 PM 2014
Dane
what size BR you going to need to turn 1.706666666666666666 to a 17.06666666666
Still 120 spins on rng takes roughly 90 mins,so four sessions a day
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Dane on Mar 16, 07:42 AM 2014
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 15, 01:27 PM 2014
Dane
what size BR you going to need to turn 1.706666666666666666 to a 17.06666666666
Still 120 spins on rng takes roughly 90 mins,so four sessions a day
NOTTOHAMMER
As you know I do not trust rng.
And I really can´t guarantee anything. Sorry.

Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: underthegun on Mar 16, 01:27 PM 2014
@dane

This is a live session at DublinBet casino, today at 6.00 p.m
to avoid mistakes can you tell me what were your bets?
18
8
31
19
24
11
13
28
17
10
33
1
35
23
23
32
16
end session (10-13-16-19 on first column)

ty
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 16, 02:05 PM 2014
UTG
still getting use to danes placings, dont think he'd be looking for 16,rather 7, we'll see when he answers
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: ugly bob on Mar 16, 02:21 PM 2014
01
XX
XX  play here..
10
13
XX  play here..
19
XX
XX play here..
28
31
XX  play here..

This is a representation of the 1st column and the numbers that have come out just before the last spin (16) in UTG's sample.

So you would be playing the 7, 16, 25 and 34 if I am reading it correct. Then the 16 comes and is a winner.
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: GLC on Mar 16, 06:18 PM 2014
Dane,  I'm trying to figure out why you choose the columns trips instead of the natural streets? 
They would certainly be easier to explain if not play.  I don't see why they would be worse?

I realize that would make this a tweak on MrJ's system, but that would be alright.

Or, maybe I don't understand the system that well? :question:

GLC
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 17, 07:36 AM 2014
Bob
dont think he'd play the 16 as the 19's there,if the 16 comes in which it does, you get four together,think Dane looks for  a unique three
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Dane on Mar 17, 08:21 AM 2014
Thanks for your replies! Let´s have a look at the spins from # 13:

18
8
31
19
24
11.. Start betting 5 & 14.
13
28...Add 25 & 34 to betting.
17... Leave 14. Remember: I get a hit only when eeeeeexactly TWO  side by side meet one more and becomes THREE. Not four!
10...Add 7 to betting
33
1
35
23
23
32...Add 25 to betting.
16...End of session. The session ends when three or more numbers side by side to in any column have come.
See 10-13-16-19. Not Eeeeeexacly THREE but four.  There is nothing like stating the obvious: There are only three numbers in a street ;D  Yes, Mr. J´s method might be fine and slightly less complicated and with a more limited bet selection But I do not know if he gets a hit in approx. 60 % of all sessions. This percentage seem to be rather stable with my method.
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 17, 10:14 AM 2014
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 17, 07:36 AM 2014
Bob
dont think he'd play the 16 as the 19's there,if the 16 comes in which it does, you get four together,think Dane looks for  a unique three
Dane was i right or wrong about the 16
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Dane on Mar 17, 10:21 AM 2014
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 17, 10:14 AM 2014
Dane was i right or wrong about the 16
:)EEEEEEXACTLY RIGHT :) I did not play the 16!
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: underthegun on Mar 17, 12:47 PM 2014
Quote from: Dane on Mar 17, 08:21 AM 2014
Thanks for your replies! Let´s have a look at the spins from # 13:

18
8
31
19
24
11.. Start betting 5 & 14.
13
28...Add 25 & 34 to betting.
17... Leave 14. Remember: I get a hit only when eeeeeexactly TWO  side by side meet one more and becomes THREE. Not four!
10...Add 7 to betting
33
1
35
23
23
32...Add 25 to betting.
16...End of session. The session ends when three or more numbers side by side to in any column have come.
See 10-13-16-19. Not Eeeeeexacly THREE but four.  There is nothing like stating the obvious: There are only three numbers in a street ;D  Yes, Mr. J´s method might be fine and slightly less complicated and with a more limited bet selection But I do not know if he gets a hit in approx. 60 % of all sessions. This percentage seem to be rather stable with my method.


exactly how I played.
I wanted to confirm that you only play a number, or two numbers, when two numbers are adjacent on the same column but can generate only three consecutive numbers and not four.
For this reason, the 16 also is hit at the end of the session is not staked.

ty
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Dane on Mar 17, 01:23 PM 2014
Quote from: underthegun on Mar 17, 12:47 PM 2014

exactly how I played.
I wanted to confirm that you only play a number, or two numbers, when two numbers are adjacent on the same column but can generate only three consecutive numbers and not four.
For this reason, the 16 also is hit at the end of the session is not staked.

ty
Better safe than sorry!
Eeeeeexactly! But why do I repeat this ridiculous way of spelling that word?
Well, a certain funny character in my favourite comedy series "The Brittas Empire" (Gordon Brittas) inspired me  :smile:
                                         
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Turner on Mar 17, 01:45 PM 2014
Quote from: Dane on Mar 17, 01:23 PM 2014
Better safe than sorry!
Eeeeeexactly! But why do I repeat this ridiculous way of spelling that word?
Well, a certain funny character in my favourite comedy series "The Brittas Empire" (Gordon Brittas) inspired me  :smile:
                                         

I met Chris Barrie at a function once at Williams Formula 1 factory in Oxfordshire. Talked for a good 20 mins....mostly football...he's a Chelsea fan

Lovely bloke.

Sat in Ayrton Senna's car too....brilliant day
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Dane on Mar 18, 09:43 AM 2014
Quote from: Turner on Mar 17, 01:45 PM 2014
I met Chris Barrie at a function once at Williams Formula 1 factory in Oxfordshire. Talked for a good 20 mins....mostly football...he's a Chelsea fan

Lovely bloke.

Sat in Ayrton Senna's car too....brilliant day
Hi Turner,
Could you please explain what the sanskrit words close to your "avatar picture" mean?
In RETURN (before RETURNING to the topic) I´ll  remember an episode with an Eastern touch! Chris Barrie played the well meaning, but incompetent, manager Gordon Brittas in Whitbury Newtown leisure centre. His wife, Helen Brittas, was of course rather disturbed. Nevertheless she in one episode led a "YOGA CLASS". And AN INDIAN FROM THE NORTH should be a guest lecturer. It turned out that he did not come from the North of India, but from the Northern England: SCARBOROUGH!
And when he entered the room, Helen recognized him as a former lover. :love: "HARRY" :love:
Then the assembled yoga students responded by chanting "Harry Harry" - OR MAYBE RATHER "HARE HARE" (as in "Hare Krishna") :smile:
I myself was in Scarborough ( together with approx. 800 other meditators) back in 1983.  The writer of the script of that episode from  "THE BRITTAS EMPIRE" might have been there or done some research.
                                                                 Yogastah kuru karmani.
                                                                              Dane
                                                         

Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Turner on Mar 18, 10:57 AM 2014
Dane....its a mantra from the heart sutra.
Gone, gone, gone beyond, gone completely beyond.
I can explain more in PM if you need to know.
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: Dane on Mar 19, 03:23 AM 2014
Today I´ll sit at my piano playing "Scarborough Fair". And I´ll be looking at this
female SCARBOROUGH FAIRY
TRYING TO FLY!
Before reaching Enlightenment maybe I should return to my test series. No spin came from table 3 in Spielbank Wiesbaden on 22.04.2011 and 01.05.2011. This means that right after the Permanenz from 3RD of June that year I had finished so many sessions: 152 x 5 = 760.
My profit has now been reduced to 253 units.
Title: Re: Straight Up Hit in six out of ten sessions.
Post by: rajucb12 on Apr 19, 02:45 PM 2014
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