Hi
I have not been on here for a long time. Just want to say it is good to be back. I wanted to know peoples opinions on Bet Voyager and there 0 zero roulette. I have been playing on there demo game using my own strategy and I have been quite successful. For example tonight I have 80 wins in around 40 minutes. With those 80 wins 71 of them were 1st time and the other 9 were within the 2nd spin.
I just wondered if Bet Voyager was a trusted casino to use and I thought some of the more experienced players on the forum would be able to share there Bet Voyager opinions and views. I have only been playing in demo mode and I am very sceptical if a full version game could produce the same results and I am also worried that the table may be fixed in some way as it is not a live table.
Anyway thanks to those who take the time to read my post and I look forward to hearing some opinions.
Up until the last few weeks ago I would have said a big YES, but since the problems with many players money being tied up with a technical problem that took an exceedingly long time to get resolved, I am not so sure anymore.
I agree with Foogus here.
For me BV was always a trustful casino to play at
But since the Technical problem that took them 2-3 weeks without even properly communicating with everyone about the situation am not sure anymore.
Yesterday I got disconnected from the new BV software. When I tried to log back in there was an update and since it just freezes when I press the login button.
I can log in fine on the browser version but not the new download which is where I run my bot.
Anyone else had similar?
Yes, got same issue. Web version is working fine.
I still think they are one o fthe safest places to play online- altough the last experience was a litle unprofessional, I still use them.
I just had a look at BV randomness control (RC). They say it applies to all their (RNG) games, roulette & cards etc. I avoid all RNG games for the record because I think they are cheaters.
I looked at BV's Check sum demo which indicates they can't change the results during the spin. However can their program ID your play & "manipulate" the results for upcoming spins & so beat you & still comply with their RC ?
So if other RNG casinos don't have randomness control & probably manipulate their results, then how does BV make a competitive profit ? I see they operate in the Netherlands Antilles, are costs & wages lower there, like maybe Second World or closer to 3rd World ? I'm answering my own question here having just looked up the average wage there. It's around $3.40 p/hr USD equivalent & $137 p/wk for 40 hours so pretty much 2nd world. Perhaps that also reflects on the quality of service & staffing levels at BV ? As recently heavily posted on the thread about extreme concern about "lost" deposits ?
I also saw hotel rates were 1st world + with many in the $250 - $350 per night range & a kind of 2 tier economy where corporations profit off the back of low paid workers.
Like I know this may be a question that can't be answered unless you have inside connections but is it possible that casino RO (Rip Off) makes 35% net profit whereas BV maybe only makes 15% or 20% ?
Also does anyone play both on line live dealer & BV & so have a direct comparison (if they play the same method) of which gives the best strike rate ?
I've seen it mentioned previously that BV offers very low minimums & high upper limits ? Like what are the EC limit ranges on BV Euro 37 number wheel ?
Live dealer mostly are above $1/Euro/GBP. EG Party casino Latvian feed is 2 min & Smart live is 10GBP min. I imagine BOT play played at 200mph could equal or exceed bet/win earnings of a dealer @ 1 spin every 40 seconds to 1 minute spin cycles ? Does BV software ID BOT play & so limit or restrict the speed of bets ?
Anyone had/having reasonably large wins nearly every week say in the $1k - $2k+ range & regularly gets paid ? So that they keep on keeping on without getting a "DEAR JOHN" casinos flicking you DCA (don't come again) letter/notice ? Also how fast do they pay out on wins ? Do they beat 3 business days min. a lot of live dealer joints have ?
Not sure on the above but still cant log in :(
QuoteHowever can their program ID your play & "manipulate" the results for upcoming spins & so beat you & still comply with their RC ?
With all the methods used can you imagine how any software could be created to do just that ? any coder worth an ounce of salt will tell you it's not financially viable BUT if you were just playing red or black then maybe, just maybe the next set would be against you, highly doubt it though.
QuoteSo if other RNG casinos don't have randomness control & probably manipulate their results, then how does BV make a competitive profit ?
Random does it all for them, Roulette Extreme is a perfect example, if you run your play through it, your losses will be the same as on a real wheel OR an RNG game, now why would Roulette Extreme need to cheat you?
QuoteAlso does anyone play both on line live dealer & BV & so have a direct comparison (if they play the same method) of which gives the best strike rate ?
Whatever gets played on live tables loses the same rate as RNG, only difference is it all happens much faster on an RNG so the mind 'thinks' there are more losing bets on RNGs, we've covered 'spot the difference' many times on these forums, there is none.
QuoteAnyone had/having reasonably large wins nearly every week say in the $1k - $2k+ range & regularly gets paid ? So that they keep on keeping on without getting a "DEAR JOHN" casinos flicking you DCA (don't come again) letter/notice ? Also how fast do they pay out on wins ? Do they beat 3 business days min. a lot of live dealer joints have ?
We had Grampa I think it was, who was limited to a few thousand a week or something like that, I have never had a problem withdrawing into Skrill AND I have never had a problem withdrawing into my bank account from Skrill, granted my winnings are not in the thousands and I don't think it matters what size your winnings are, a withdrawal is a withdrawal, they get enough from the other 95% of the players who constantly lose and cry cheat.
Quote from: superman on Mar 19, 02:08 PM 2014
Random does it all for them, Roulette Extreme is a perfect example, if you run your play through it, your losses will be the same as on a real wheel OR an RNG game, now why would Roulette Extreme need to cheat you?
Absolutely correct :)
Still cant log in.....same on my gf's laptop.
Reinstalled BV .exe.......no change.
Tried old style software.....loaded.....logged in.....then an update AFTER I logged in.....all games disappeared from lobby.
Emailed support...clear browser and cookies....re try new software version......done.....no improvement.
Emailed support....24 hrs later....try different browser....done....no improvement.
Emailed support....."there is nothing more we can do, seek a local IT expert" was their response.
Pffft....
Don't understand why some of u insist on playing on BV; imho there is a lot of online casino
much better than bv......; why bother with bv...??
No Zero.
Anyone else having these problems?
Anyone else solved these problems?
Just logged in to play no zero, no problem at all
Welcome XXXXXXXX. Your balance: â,¬ 1690.52 • FUN 25479.45
Logged in on a laptop with XP using internet explorer 8
I just signed up to BetVoyager to access their live dealer game for a look see. While there I looked at some of their RNG. The 3 ball game didn't thrill me too much, although in play mode & not caring about large bets or MM I got the A/C balance up over $6k playing double dozens, rather quickly.
I then had a look at No Zero Roulette where the limits on the outside bets were 5c to $1200 on the 2 : 1 & the EC's 5c to $2,000. I don't know which game has the 1c minimum that sometimes gets mentioned ? I didn't feel like viewing every game option on display. 5c to $2k is a very large min./max. ratio & calcs at 1 : 40,000 & so allows a larger than most progression ratio (PR). BUT RNG ! ! !
The Live dealer is the feed off Party Casino PC (Latvian Dealers). I have an account with PC so I went onto the lower level play game & then went onto BV live dealer & it was the same dealer & the marquee numbers matched for most of the board (leave off the top few due to the log in time back to BV).
The rates differ BV vs PC. BV min/max col /doz 1 : 600. PC Col./Doz. 2 : 2,000. PR 1 : 600 vs 1 : 1,000. EC - BV 1 : 1,000 PC 2 : 2000. PR the same @ 1 : 1,000. PC has an advantage when the minimums increase.
How quick does BV pay out on withdraw wins ? Same day on Mastercard/Visa card used to deposit ? PC takes at least 3 business days & I've always been paid no hassles from that casino.
Superman what was your BR's on your 1690.52 balance ? How has it been with you on BV withdraws ? (assuming you've made them naturally ?)
QuoteI don't know which game has the 1c minimum that sometimes gets mentioned ?
European RNG roulette, the very 1st one on the roulette page (top left) havent looked at it for a while but that's the one, the NoZero is 5c min
QuoteHow quick does BV pay out on withdraw wins ? Same day on Mastercard/Visa card used to deposit ? PC takes at least 3 business days & I've always been paid no hassles from that casino
The best I've had was 2 days, the worst was 8 days but I asked for it on a friday evening, not that that should matter in my opinion.
QuoteSuperman what was your BR's on your 1690.52 balance ? How has it been with you on BV withdraws ? (assuming you've made them naturally ?)
I have only ever deposited 25 euros at a time, lost it many times from dumba$$ method play, as I've stated for the last year/ish no mechanical play will ever win, my opinion of course so I play manually as described many many times in my responses over the last year. Which irritates me imensley as I build bots and would love to let the bot play but as I never use the same MM after certain criteria I have not managed to put that into a bot, the reason I am letting the bank grow is so I can play bigger units eventually, currently using 0.50c chips, target is 20 units per session, none of that loss limit nonesense, if I struggle I grind it out, some sessions can last a couple of hours some are over in a matter of minutes.
I've not yet had to contact support asking where my money is.
And for the record, I use Skrill, never had a problem with them either, from BV -> Skrill -> my bank account on average 4 / 5 days.
QuoteDon't understand why some of u insist on playing on BV; imho there is a lot of online casino
much better than bv......; why bother with bv...??
Purely because of the SHA + NoZero = true 50/50 not available anywhere else, unless you know differently, I am only talking about RNG, I don't trust live casino feeds from the east as far as I am concerned BV is just the middle man on that one.
PS I always set the string of numbers per set to 60, as you will know now that means when I play all those 60 spins are set before I start so they can't cheat me.
PPS I have run a bot against the SHA to test if they cheat, that was a few years ago though but it was always correct.
Quote from: superman on Mar 20, 09:22 AM 2014
European RNG roulette, the very 1st one on the roulette page (top left) havent looked at it for a while but that's the one, the NoZero is 5c min
The best I've had was 2 days, the worst was 8 days but I asked for it on a friday evening, not that that should matter in my opinion.
I have only ever deposited 25 euros at a time, lost it many times from dumba$$ method play, as I've stated for the last year/ish no mechanical play will ever win, my opinion of course so I play manually as described many many times in my responses over the last year. Which irritates me imensley as I build bots and would love to let the bot play but as I never use the same MM after certain criteria I have not managed to put that into a bot, the reason I am letting the bank grow is so I can play bigger units eventually, currently using 0.50c chips, target is 20 units per session, none of that loss limit nonesense, if I struggle I grind it out, some sessions can last a couple of hours some are over in a matter of minutes.
I've not yet had to contact support asking where my money is.
And for the record, I use Skrill, never had a problem with them either, from BV -> Skrill -> my bank account on average 4 / 5 days.
Not sure because of the law, they don't let me deposit anymore. I called up my bank, they said nothing has changed from their part.
Wonder if it's something else, however no response from Skrill.
Purely because of the SHA + NoZero = true 50/50 not available anywhere else, unless you know differently, I am only talking about RNG, I don't trust live casino feeds from the east as far as I am concerned BV is just the middle man on that one.
PS I always set the string of numbers per set to 60, as you will know now that means when I play all those 60 spins are set before I start so they can't cheat me.
PPS I have run a bot against the SHA to test if they cheat, that was a few years ago though but it was always correct.
I prefer their live roulette, but after losing more than 10000EU for a few weeks and being offered 10EU compensation for the stuffup, it has made me a bit wary. They no longer have the majority of my winnings thankfully, but I will probably continue to use them with a lower bankroll and build it up again. Like Superman I only made a small deposit (50EU) and built it to what disappeared in a few seconds.
I also agree with Superman about the honesty of their RNG, when I use it I set the the string of numbers per set to 100, because that is the number of spins I aim for with my sessions.
Can everyone log in using the new software?.....Is it just me?
OK Superman - Euro 1c wheel top left got it. I also had a more detailed look at their SHA randomness control & how they rely on randomness only to beat the player & not manipulate the results during each spin. That's all good & I'll keep that as an option to use a bit of other casino profit to one day maybe do some plays ? I don't like Skrill/Moneybookers as I for me it's an unnecessary 3rd party middleman thingo.
For live play & as BV is using Party Casinos dealer video feed with BV at a lesser net rate would it not then make it a better MM choice to play at Party Casino ? Also remember we are comparing the prices of the same apples vs the same apples here.
I just checked the bet rates again at both BV & Party. For inside plays Party is way out in front @ 1 - 250 for any single number vs BV's 1 -50.
For Dozens/Columns & EC, Party has the same rates @ 2 min to 2,000 maximum. BV has D/C @ 1 - 600 & 1 - 1,000 for the EC's.
Once the minimum bet gets to 2 & above Party has a significant 3 & 1/3 advantage progression wise on the 2 : 1 bets & double the rate on the EC's. This fact alone should be of high importance to progression players ?
Also a factor is the currency a player is using.
I notice BV seems to operate only in Euro currency ? Party has a choice of 5 = GBP, Euro & 3 different $$$$. With PC's A/C rules the currency a player starts the A/C which is "locked in" permanently for the life of that account.
I play PC in GBP which gives me around an 85% exchange rate boost to any winnings on the way back to me in OZ. As an example to BR an amount of 100GBP will cost me about $190AUD including fees. Say I get on a PC win streak & the balance gets to 300GBP & I withdraw 200GBP, I might see about $370 come back to me (bank fees paid) plus I still have my 100GBP in my play A/C to try & grow my wins.
PC have monthly withdraw limits depending on play throughs. Low end max. is 20KUSD to 50KUSD. The high roller end is $100K USD plus which unfortunately won't involve most players, I would assume ? It's a bit of a PC spin on the currency limits as they make it LOOK more by having the limits in USD when US players can't benefit from any plays being blocked from off shore A/C's. If playing in GBP or Euro you take a "haircut restriction" on the USD step down rate if you happen to be "rolling in the lush green clover".
BV only mentions a 5,000Euro withdaw cap per 24 hr period. So that seems to mean, in theory, that with a more than impressive bet success, around 150,000Euro could be withdrawn in any 1 month x 12 = 1.8 million in a year. That would never happen as they'd bring that other T & C rule "we reserve the right to refuse any player...." etc. etc.
Overall though even if a player "ONLY" won $20,000 USD in a month that opens up a multitude of "investment" choices that weren't even on the radar at lower A/C balances.
Looking at the credit/debit card deal BV uses Skrill/Moneybookers only whereas PC allows direct bank to casino A/C transfers. I have a choice of using my Mastercard debit card or my Visa debit card but you must always straight line the deposit/withdraw pathway = no cross transfers.
Payouts maybe a little quicker @ PC going off Supermans reveals ? Probably not much in it overall ?
AZIM - Blocked deposits have happened to me a couple of times. Both times it was the casino revising its business operations in that it pulled it's account access to Australia that it prevoiusly had. They both did email me to that effect. It's no point in contacting your bank as they'd have no idea. Go into your casinos T & C's & see if your country is now in their no play zone ? Sometimes agreements change & casinos respond accordingly. Failing that you would have to get the casino customer service or admin. to try & explain it ?
Once (about 18 months ago) at Smart Live Casino, after many past direct Mastercard & Visa card (debit cards) deposits, one day both cards for a deposit got declined (there was plenty of funds in the card A/C to easily cover the attempted transfer). The casino said check with the card companies, the card companies said do it through your bank, I went to my bank & they said they'd look into it for me, after X no. of days they emailed me & advised that the card providers said was no probs this end with the cards (as it turned out there was = a commission dispute between casino & card providers) to check with the casino ?
Talk about being ****ed about by experts as I was back to square one. Live chat was clueless (useless as tits on a bull) so I emailed Smart Live admin. & eventually they came back & said that the cards I was using were temporarily unavailable for casino deposit use & they hoped that the cards would be available for use soon. (I viewed their spin on both sides of this deal = we both are greedy on commission rates here so it's a standoff but ***k the customer they can use other options [even though they may be less viable ?])
In the meantime they steered me to Skrill/Moneybookers. I see that Mastercard & Visa are again back on SL's A/C options but in the lull I found Party Casino which have far better play value. EC's 2 - 2,000 VS 10 - 1,000. I now play at PC. I haven't played at Smart since the card ***k up thingo yonks ago.
Hi just me again so in simple terms is Bet Voyager worth using or is it just the same as all the other casinos out there. Are there any good reviews of bet voyager
Ausguy the card problem is still there at Smart Live Casino, you cant deposit with Visa or Mastercard if you live in Australia. Last answer I got from my inquiries was we are looking into it and will get back to you, meanwhile use Skrill (not likely), that was about a month ago, still nothing heard since.
Foogus - Smart Live Chat customer service just now advised me that Visa & Mastercard are valid for deposits at Smart Live. I didn't specifically ask them if OZ was blocked for use ? So you may be correct with your info. ?
Not that it worries me as I don't & haven't played SL for 18 months or more as there's better value elsewhere for my outside plays. EG Party Casino.
I brushed Skrill/Moneybookers a little after switching to Party Casino. Party has never had any barriers on my Debit cards, deposits are always fast & efficient. Direct deposits both in & out beats 3rd party "middlemen" systems everytime in my view.
Party Casino bills themselves as the World's largest on line casino so perhaps size helps to eliminate those niggling problems that forum people have been having with Smart Live (card restrictions) & BetVoyager (missing account monies, with poor communications) ?
Quote from: ausguy on Mar 20, 04:33 PM 2014
AZIM - Blocked deposits have happened to me a couple of times. Both times it was the casino revising its business operations in that it pulled it's account access to Australia that it prevoiusly had. They both did email me to that effect. It's no point in contacting your bank as they'd have no idea. Go into your casinos T & C's & see if your country is now in their no play zone ? Sometimes agreements change & casinos respond accordingly. Failing that you would have to get the casino customer service or admin. to try & explain it ?
Once (about 18 months ago) at Smart Live Casino, after many past direct Mastercard & Visa card (debit cards) deposits, one day both cards for a deposit got declined (there was plenty of funds in the card A/C to easily cover the attempted transfer). The casino said check with the card companies, the card companies said do it through your bank, I went to my bank & they said they'd look into it for me, after X no. of days they emailed me & advised that the card providers said was no probs this end with the cards (as it turned out there was = a commission dispute between casino & card providers) to check with the casino ?
Talk about being ****ed about by experts as I was back to square one. Live chat was clueless (useless as tits on a bull) so I emailed Smart Live admin. & eventually they came back & said that the cards I was using were temporarily unavailable for casino deposit use & they hoped that the cards would be available for use soon. (I viewed their spin on both sides of this deal = we both are greedy on commission rates here so it's a standoff but ***k the customer they can use other options [even though they may be less viable ?])
In the meantime they steered me to Skrill/Moneybookers. I see that Mastercard & Visa are again back on SL's A/C options but in the lull I found Party Casino which have far better play value. EC's 2 - 2,000 VS 10 - 1,000. I now play at PC. I haven't played at Smart since the card ***k up thingo yonks ago.
I am having issues online, I have just cashed out my initial deposits everywhere I have my bot playing.
I just tried to play again and Party Casino now have me down for $1.00 minimum inside bet from $0.10.
Bet voyager has Skrill which has refused my deposit.
Dublin Bet I now can't see 0.10 live table it's giving me 1.00 minimum bet.
Not sure what to make of this?
Azim - It seems they've (the casinos) ID'd your bot play & invoked restrictions as per their T & C's. They say things in their T & C's such as they reserve the right to alter or restrict player conditions on various games and/or close your account as they deem necessary without the need or requirement to give a reason.
Party states things like - zero tolerence towards inappropriate play.... game manipulation...at our sole discretion...SOFTWARE - We are committed to preventing the use of software programs, A. I. Artificial Intelligence. By increasing your minimum bet by x10 they have reduced your progression range by a large margin. Ditto for Dublin bet.
Dublin has things like - The company reserves the right to decline to accept bets without providing any reason..... Results of games may be declared void if we determine the use of software assisted methods or techniques.
Just checking BV & they seem to be a little vague on their front page T & C's ? They also have more T & C's on their Betcruise page. The closest I can see is that they can exclude a player if they deem your play to have been a dishonest act ? Although they don't define what they mean by a dishonest act ? Before that is a part that says they reserve the right to withhold any payouts for 1 month on large winnings while they do an analysis of all the plays. Again they don't define what they regard as a large win ?
At BV do you have any money in the A/C to see if you can still play there without the need to make a deposit like you tried through Skrill ?
You could then try & build the balance up & keep playing that way but if they are blocking your deposits it would be likely they would eventually flick you & your A/C ?
The common theme here seems too coincidental that 3 casinos have altered your play freedom all around the same period of time? This to me seems like they may have a central reporting system (secret casino business), a bit like a credit reporting agency, that I.D's your play method & so enables them to take whatever action they deem necessary to lessen the threat you (& many others) present to casino profits ?
Looks like it. However, I don't have any balance on Bet Voyager.
After this, I have decided to give up on online gambling with my latest bot.
I still have 5 players playing with my first bot. That hasn't changed.
Party Casino did that to me a while back. After logging in with a 3-4 month absence, I was able to use the 0.10 limit.
Will have to wait and do it again.
Time will tell.
Reading your posts guys,I ask myself once more,are you so naive or really idiots,playing on line.
You better give your money to some human organisations then been taken from mafia.
TEO a couple of your systems u recommend playing on bv no zero lol....remember :wink:
Azim - From what I see from Party is that they deem an account as inactive after 12 weeks so the wait you mention 3 - 4 months may allow the resets you mention ?
I'd imagine with the volume turnover of plays they would rely on software detection scanning for things like bot play. Like anywhere, they would then look at your account history & as your bot play was previously pinged they'd probably invoke restrictions ?
From your actions it appears that you put lttle value in Emailing the casinos admin. & asking why they have changed the minimum levels ? Also from their T & C's they may not/do not need to give any reasons ?
Is manual non bot play with higher stakes a viable option ?
teo - you display a large amount of LACK OF CREDIBILITY by posting your last sweeping comments ? On the Hot Copper Investment forum comments similar in tone to yours get flicked rather quickly by the Moderator & flagged as FLAMING & of negative value to the forum ?
Care to show some evidence to back up your generalisation about the wisdom of online play ? Like there's a few different issues here.
1. Are Azims bot play restrictions cause for concern ? 2. Is RNG play workable & worthwhile ? 3. Is Live dealer play (NON BOT) viable & profitable ? On any live dealer wins I've always been paid & in a few weeks I'll be back playing live dealer roulette at Party Casino. As per MM ideas I'm saving up a larger BR, then I'll be back at it.
So in the not too distant future we/I shall see if what you assert is either FACT or FICTION ?
Quote from: Azim on Mar 21, 08:32 AM 2014
Looks like it. However, I don't have any balance on Bet Voyager.
After this, I have decided to give up on online gambling with my latest bot.
I still have 5 players playing with my first bot. That hasn't changed.
Party Casino did that to me a while back. After logging in with a 3-4 month absence, I was able to use the 0.10 limit.
Will have to wait and do it again.
Time will tell.
Hi there Azim,
Can you tell us what kind of bots are you running (excel, rx bot, etc).
thx
Quote from: superman on Mar 20, 09:22 AM 2014
PS I always set the string of numbers per set to 60, as you will know now that means when I play all those 60 spins are set before I start so they can't cheat me.
superman
How set the string of numbers per set ?
Thanks !
Mare - I was looking at the BV string number & randomness control info. yesterday. BV have a demo. that walks you through the settings so that should
get you where you want to be ? Best of luck with it.
Quote from: 6th-sense on Mar 21, 10:39 AM 2014
TEO a couple of your systems u recommend playing on bv no zero lol....remember :wink:
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Sir it was for those that believe in impossible...not for me.to Ausguy......the fact that they have right not to pay you/after you win/with no explanation whatsoever...is enough for me.
Quotesuperman
How set the string of numbers per set ?
See attached image, when you load the game its standard at 10 just type in 60 then hit New
60 is the max they will give you, I know someone said earlier in the thread he sets it to 100, he must be mistaken, you can set it to 100 but after the first spin it goes to 9, try it yourself.
Teo - you don't like on line so you don't play & you don't lose but the other side of the coin is you no play you no win = risk vs reward.
For me I play only live dealer on line (sometimes B & M). I play, if I win I get paid & so very happy for profit. I've never been refused payouts by any casino on any wins. Both ways it is good, play or not play, it's called Freedom Of Choice.
Although I don't need to use strong blue writing to get my message across.
Although I don't need to use strong blue writing to get my message across.
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I expected something stupid from you...so did only half sentence in strong blue...LOL...have it now in read.
You come across as a bit of a "Village Idiot" type here teo. As to your "expected something stupid from you" go for a little walk into your bathroom & have a look at yourself in the mirror (assuming you have one ?) & repeat over & over what you have written in RED there ("READ" is as in look at words not a colour in my part of the World ?)
After you've done that in the mirror move your writing hand down near your bellybutton, tightly clench your fist & rapidly bring it up to hit your chin, repeat as necessary.
In Australia we call it "GIVING YOURSELF AN UPPERCUT". It's designed for DICK HEADS in the hope they'll knock some sense into themselves.
Go back to real world you dicksucker.....
Quote from: ausguy on Mar 21, 04:14 PM 2014It's designed for DICK HEADS in the hope they'll knock some sense into themselves.
Baccarat?
Quote from: teo on Mar 21, 09:28 AM 2014
Reading your posts guys,I ask myself once more,are you so naive or really idiots,playing on line.
You better give your money to some human organisations then been taken from mafia.
Idiots are people like you, who don't understand the concept of volume.
I have said this before and repeating again, I am not associated with any sites hence my statements below:
THERE IS NO NEED FOR ONLINE CASINOS TO CHEAT.
WHAT WE, OR AT LEAST I SEE BY PLAYING ONLINE FOR 3-4HRS NON-STOP, IS NORMAL.
WHAT I AM FACING IS NORMAL, I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT. THEY CAN RAISE THEIR LIMIT ON MY ACCOUNT.
Someone can prove me wrong, 0.10 at Dublin Bet had a maximum inside bet of 1.00 and now that I have 1.00 my maximum inside bet is $10.00 I have the same cushion, I just have to deposit more to play that limit.
Will they make me loss my money by cheating me NO!!!!!. I just don't like to deposit more than $60.00 anywhere I play.
I am not going to discuss anything further on this thread about Online Gambling.
I will start a new thread and discuss it there. In fact, I don't have too. Go to my profile and read all my previous posts, I have always said, play 4-5 systems together and learn how to be able to counter defeat the ROULETTE WHEEL.
Everyone, is looking for simple way out.
Sorry to say this there is no easy way to make money in gambling.
Quote from: teo on Mar 21, 02:03 PM 2014
--Sir it was for those that believe in impossible...not for me.
to Ausguy......the fact that they have right not to pay you/after you win/with no explanation whatsoever...is enough for me.
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I have yet, not had a casino, refuse to pay me out from my winnings.
I totally disagree to this. There has to be 2 sides to the story for them to refuse payout.
Quote from: Serendipity on Mar 21, 12:06 PM 2014
Hi there Azim,
Can you tell us what kind of bots are you running (excel, rx bot, etc).
thx
I have written my own bots.
I don't use Excel bots or RX-BOT. I only write systems for people using Excel or RX.
Quote from: ausguy on Mar 21, 07:58 AM 2014
Party states things like - zero tolerence towards inappropriate play.... game manipulation...at our sole discretion...SOFTWARE - We are committed to preventing the use of software programs, A. I. Artificial Intelligence. By increasing your minimum bet by x10 they have reduced your progression range by a large margin. Ditto for Dublin bet.
Dublin has things like - The company reserves the right to decline to accept bets without providing any reason..... Results of games may be declared void if we determine the use of software assisted methods or techniques.
Ausguy,
I did find a bug in the RNG software Party Casino had been using. Ever since, I have told them they have 2 options, 1 is to let me run any application I want while I have their software running be it a bot or not or close my account. They haven't closed my account. That explains it all.
Ausguy, makes me proud to be an Aussie, well said mate. Although I don't think your instructions were quite detailed enough for him. And his comeback was nothing short of genius. And nice restraint in not replying to the fool.