ive been trying to figure out away to essentially cover the board to where at the most youd lose a minor amount of units but on a win you would profit
thoughts?
you can't win that way. The only thing (in double zero roulette) is to avoid 0-00-1-2-3 (5 numbers) bet which has the biggest house edge.
But there is no way you can win by some tricky bet selection which will maximize your wins and minimize losses. House edge is always there.
This is an old tactic, but try this.
Bet 1st dozen and High equal amounts, or
Bet 3rd dozen and Low equal amounts.
Don't know a good trigger, but the bet
selection covers all but one doublestreet.
Rich - The usual way to bet Proofs suggested way is to bet 3 units on the Even Chance (EC) bet & 2 units on the single dozen, this covers 30 numbers & leaves 8 numbers uncovered on the 38 number wheel (= 0, 00 & the 6 line/dbl st.) Which ever way you lay the bets you risk losing 5 units & any win gives you 1 unit. Proofs way is that IF the EC bet wins, you break even & if the 2 : 1 dozen bet wins you net 1 unit and only risk losing 2 units if any of the 8 unbet numbers spin up.
I came across a site earlier today that you should find helpful roulettestrategy.net On there it had 9 strategies on high number cover bets (some risk a lot more than others to win 1 unit) & a menu of 15 different bet progression plans, many well known & some lesser known. Also reasons to avoid casino bonuses playing on line.
What's the end aim for your game Rich ? Low $$ outlay/risk recreational play or wage/salary or above wins on a regular basis ? If it's the latter then consider what some suggest = A large BR say $5,000 with a low % win target. 2% gives you $100 profit. 3 winning mini sessions per day could net you $300 for example. As USA players are largely restricted from playing Internationally at on line live dealer casinos some of your fellow countrymen suggest playing at real chip casinos only & not play RNG "pretend" roulette. Proofreaders2000 & Mr J may help you in more detail with USA bet plans ? Also plenty of extra info. on this forum.
I hope this is of some assistance to you ?
i forgot something, there was some collection of many many methods in one zip file, link to download. try to look for it. if you use each time different method your chances to win may increase.
Every bet is completely independent, with its own probability.
For best referrence to complex bets, read the book:
Roulette Odds and Profits: The Mathematics of Complex Bets by Catalin Barboianu.
Some betselections when combined with others offer different interesting coverages, but at the end always keep in mind:
that no matter what you bet, payouts are accordingly, house edge remains the same and no winning strategy is ever possible using these sorts of bets.
Quote from: foreverBOB on Aug 27, 06:34 AM 2014
For best referrence to complex bets, read the book:
Roulette Odds and Profits: The Mathematics of Complex Bets by Catalin Barboianu.
Some betselections when combined with others offer different interesting coverages, but at the end always keep in mind:
that no matter what you bet, payouts are accordingly, house edge remains the same and no winning strategy is ever possible using these sorts of bets.
That works if you can play 4-5 systems together and know what you doing.
E.g If system 1 says play red, system 2 says play column 1 and system 3 says play odds..
You can convert that and just play 1, 7, 19, 25 ... Which comes back to what Mr J(if memory serves me right said) play 4 to 6 numbers.
"Every bet is completely independent, with its own probability."
Well, I would tend to agree...
Take betting on color for example...Some will say, with the 0, our odds are a little less than 50% every spin because the wheel has no memory.
However, the overall proportion of total reds vs blacks should be 50%. So every time another of the same color is added to the group, the probability of the group/sample containing ONLY that one color decreases. Is there really a 50% probability that a sample size of 100 spins will contain 100 reds or blacks? When a person gambles on the roulette spin, he may be betting FOR a single spin, or AGAINST a series.
Some gamblers DO NOT bet on the wheel, they bet on the statistics. Past data would appear to be relevant due to the sampling.
The trick is to be in the right place at the right time: at what point will the group or sampling attempt to correct itself to ensure an equal distribution of reds and blacks? Because obviously it is inevitable.
So, give these a free try Rich, perhaps at Dublinbet.
1) watch the Dozens, look for the set-up, perhaps 1,3,2,1
then bet on 2/3, 1/2, 1/3, 2/3. you are betting the pattern 1321 does not repeat.
2) same for the Columns, perhaps 3,1,2,3. then bet against the pattern repeating.
patterns like 1133 or 1222 are no good.
3) you don't have to bet every spin. watch for opportunities where the probability of an outcome will move to balance. If you see low hit 7 times in a row, or doz 2 sleeps 7 times, these are triggers indicating perhaps the next few spins we will see outcomes moving the other direction - to balance.
sleeping dozen progression: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 14, 21, 32
4) another pattern bet that works well for me is to bet against r/b patterns. if the color pattern is rbbrbr i will bet the pattern does not repeat for the next 6 spins.
5) you can bet on 1 out of the 12 streets and use a very long 31 step progression: 11111111111 22222 3333 444 55 66 77 8 9 10 - wait til you have two hits in three spins on a street then start betting on it.
6) 15 step double street progression: 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,6,7,8 - same thing-wait til you have two shows in three spins.
7) study the art of the progression, there are many and some can be very profitable, like "+1 on a loss/-1 on a win on e/c's" and learn money management. you have to know when to stop (profit and loss) and that you can not realistically expect to win every single session.
some more friendly suggestions: when testing play as if you are using your own hard earned cash. unless you are rich in real life bet with $1 chips, plan to make $20-40 a night. after a week maybe you can manage to have made $100, then bet with $2 chips. work your way up to $10 chips with the casinos money. only play one position at first, unless you have a couple years practice, playing all over the board will get you into trouble. mastering roulette takes many hours of practice. it is not an ATM machine but it is a machine, man-made, and it can be broken.
It would be great to put ausguy's system into a bot.If anyone who can do that pm me
f l g - I have to say my info. in my earlier post was just a combination of long known ideas. So there's nothing there that came to me in a sudden "light bulb moment", therefore no ausguy system applies.
While a bot may be handy you could also test by hand fairly fast just by having a list of the uncovered bets & as the numbers would be in the minority then easy to manage. If you wanted to play it for money or test then just work out your progression & away you can go.
As always, what kills majority cover betting is that you potentially lose a lot more than you win per bet & therefore to profit need to either win more often & or outlay a lot more after a loss.