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Title: Cluster EC
Post by: ignatus on Aug 29, 01:38 PM 2014
a very simple and effective method.

trigger: wait for a switch between two ec's then after two of the same appear bet for a third to come. each trigger is played only once.


for an example

R
B
R
B
B

next bet would be B

or

R
B
B


next bet would be B

likewise

B
R
R

next bet would be R



progression: Martingale
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: Turner on Aug 29, 06:43 PM 2014
Why?
Because you are betting that the least likely event will always happen.

Why would you bet that the least likely event will always happen?

Please explain
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: ignatus on Aug 29, 10:40 PM 2014
Quote from: Turner on Aug 29, 06:43 PM 2014
Why?
Because you are betting that the least likely event will always happen.

Why would you bet that the least likely event will always happen?

Please explain

well, it's a very frequent patten, that an EC will hit more than twice.

playing this on the other hand it's a very frequent pattern that color will switch also, so playing the exact opposite bet would also be a good bet. (haven't tried that yet)

but it works anyhow, betting for a third ec to hit.
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: ignatus on Aug 30, 08:30 AM 2014
More spins...
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: buffalowizard on Aug 30, 09:18 AM 2014
Doesn't work, the amount of series of colours, be it 2,3,4,5 or whatever will hit the same amount as singles. It's an illusion that they're safer because you have to wait around longer for them!
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: ignatus on Aug 30, 09:52 AM 2014
doesn't work? have you even tried it
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: Skakus on Aug 30, 11:18 AM 2014
Quote from: ignatus on Aug 30, 09:52 AM 2014
doesn't work? have you even tried it

LOL!
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: Skakus on Aug 30, 11:21 AM 2014
Quote from: Skakus on Aug 30, 11:18 AM 2014
LOL!

Make that RBL!


I'm sick of LOL 'laugh out loud' so I've come up with a my own one, RBL 'roaring belly laugh'
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: Turner on Aug 30, 12:45 PM 2014
You dont have to re-invent the wheel (no pun intended)

Bet the last, or bet one before last (which is good for series or chops) is better than this rigid idea.

Also, after 2 years here, I cant believe you still suggest martingale.

its a Newbie idea.

Even Golden Progression is better or some strategy with 122....or anything GLC has come up with.

Anything except Martingale.

If you are going to play "hope" and "recover" ...you need a good progression or strategy.

And you cant hope for more than 50% chance minus HE by virtual spins or looking back.

(another wasted 5 mins of my time)
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: ignatus on Aug 30, 05:35 PM 2014
but then, you don't like it that's one thing. Have you played it? No.
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: Turner on Aug 30, 06:14 PM 2014
Quote from: ignatus on Aug 30, 05:35 PM 2014
but then, you don't like it that's one thing. Have you played it? No.
Your arrogance is your undoing. You think you know best...you take no advice.

Thats why you still play novice ideas with novice progressions.

If you were anything higher than a novice, you would know why this isnt a good idea, and you wouldnt need me and others to tell you it isnt. You would know yourself. Especially after 2 or 3 years of being in forums with very knowledgeable people.

Same response in the other forum you posted it....

See...if you considered other peoples experience as helpful, and respected others opinions, you wouldnt keep posting novice ideas, because you would realize the idea was bad, and that you will get negative response.

But you keep posting novice ideas to experienced people, with no respect for them.

You, Ignatus, your lack of respect for experienced people, and arrogance is why you are still a novice.

Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: ddarko on Aug 30, 06:15 PM 2014
Quote from: ignatus on Aug 30, 05:35 PM 2014
but then, you don't like it that's one thing. Have you played it? No.

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Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: ausguy on Aug 30, 06:44 PM 2014
If he'd really headed a wall & not a flexible wire fence he wouldn't have walked away like he did. Anyone in doubt try it yourself on a solid wall.
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: buffalowizard on Aug 30, 07:05 PM 2014
Quote from: ignatus on Aug 30, 09:52 AM 2014
doesn't work? have you even tried it

Yes I have played it actually - looked at series for months a few years back, thinking like you, that blocks of EC's must be better to bet on or against....wait for 4 reds then bet black....wait for 3 highs then bet low etc etc.
Problem is, those blocks can still rack up in sequences long enough to destroy your bankroll, just as betting on single EC's can - like I said, it just takes longer because you're not betting every spin, surely your studies would have highlighted this point
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: Skakus on Aug 30, 07:11 PM 2014
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Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: ignatus on Aug 30, 11:32 PM 2014
"Your arrogance is your undoing. You think you know best...you take no advice.

Thats why you still play novice ideas with novice progressions."

yes, perhaps i use novice ideas, but who is right and who is wrong here , really?? if you don't like martinegale, use another progression fine. Let's fact and statistics tell the truth, if you want to critizise me further come up with actual gameplay
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: Turner on Aug 31, 03:02 AM 2014
Quote from: ignatus on Aug 30, 11:32 PM 2014
"Your arrogance is your undoing. You think you know best...you take no advice.

Thats why you still play novice ideas with novice progressions."

yes, perhaps i use novice ideas, but who is right and who is wrong here , really?? if you don't like martinegale, use another progression fine. Let's fact and statistics tell the truth, if you want to critizise me further come up with actual gameplay
I did. You must of ignored it.
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: bleep24 on Oct 22, 02:49 PM 2014
I am wondering if anyone has a progression for playing both outcomes on E/C`s and have used it with what results?   Cluster EC seems .     a likely candidate to try this on as there could be lots of switching of outcomes.   Anyone got any thoughts on this  (Only a silly idea of mine)
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: ego on Oct 23, 05:51 AM 2014

Ignatus, i think i reply to this topic, did you delete my post ?
Well i try again.

This method is nice and are based upon a classical system i wrote about 2008 at VLS forum.

You see RBR you play B for the pattern to continue
You see BRB you play R for the pattern to continue
You see RRR you play R for the pattern to continue
You see BBB you play B for the pattern to continue

BRR                         
RRR                                                   
BRR L                                             
BRB                                           
RBR w                 
BBB               
BBR W                                             
BBB           
BRB W             
BRR L                         
RBB                     
BBB                   
RBR L                                           
BRB W             
RBR                         
BBR W                     
BRR                                           
RRR                               
BBR L                 
BRB                   
BBB L                       
BRB W                                                 
BRR       
RBR                                     
RBB L       
BBR                                 
RRR               
RBR W                         
RRR L                   
RRR W               
RBB W       
RRB 
BBB             
BBR W               
BRR       
RBR             
BBB W       
BRR W     
RBB             
BBR             
BRR       
BRR       
RBR 
RRR L                   
RBB W                               
RBB             
BBB                 
BBB W                   
BRB               
RRR W           
RRB W                   
RRR             
RBR W       
BRB W                         
RRB 
BBR       
RRR       
BBB L                     
RBR                     
BBR W                                 
RBB 
BBB 
BRR W                     
BRB       
RBR W                   
RBR       
RBR L                   
BBB               
RBB L                   
RRR             
BRR L                   
RBR       
BRB W
RRB   
BBR               
RRB             
RBR       
BRB W             
RBB 
RRR       
BBR L       
BRB       
BBR L                 
RRR               
RBR W       
BBB             
RBB L
RRB             
RBB       
RRR             
RBR W       
BBB       
RBB L       
RBR       
RBR L             
BBR       
RBB
BBB         
BBR W       
RRR
RBB W
BBR 
RRB 
Title: Re: Cluster EC
Post by: atlantis on Oct 23, 02:03 PM 2014
Hi ego,

Thanks for your suggestion for ec play.
I tried it with extended fibo progression 1-1-2-2-3-3-5-5-8-8-13-13-21-21
Can be slow as you're not playing every spin of course... I made +5u after 156 spins; highest bet was 2 units.
I did not encounter any long strings of L's (LLR=3) as you can see from my r/b spin record:

rbr
rrb L
brb
rbr w
rrb L
brr
bbr
bbr
rrb
rbb
brb
rbr w
bbb w
rbr L
rbr L
rbr L
brb w
rrr  w
rrb w
rbb
rbb
rbr
brb w
bbr L
bbr
rbb
bbr
brr
bbb
bbr w
rbr
rrr L
brr L
bbb
brb w
brr L
rbb
bbr
rrb
bbb
brb w
rrr w
rbb w
brr
bbr
rbb
rrr
brb L
rrb w
bbr
bbb
brb w

+5

Regards,
A.