trigger: bet each number that hits and its two neighbours on the wheel up to twelve numbers. (3+3+3+3)
this method takes advantage of the fact that numbers hits in clusters on the wheel very frequently. i have tried different bets, but this one seems to work best so far. i can say for a wheel repeater -it doesn't get better than this.
here is a list of the numbers and its two neighbours on the wheel:
0= 26,32
1= 20,33
2= 21,25
3= 26,35
4= 19,21
5= 10,24
6= 27,34
7= 28,29
8= 23,30
9= 22,31
10= 5,23
11= 30,36
12= 28,35
13= 27,36
14= 20,31
15= 19,32
16= 24,33
17= 25,34
18= 22,29
19= 4,15
20= 1,14
21= 2,4
22= 9,18
23= 8,10
24= 5,16
25= 2,17
26= 0,3
27= 6,13
28= 7,12
29= 7,18
30= 8,11
31= 9,14
32= 0,15
33= 1,16
34= 6,17
35= 3,12
36= 11,13
so for an example number 32 hits. (see the list) numbers 0,15,32 would be bet, next 10 hits- numbers 5,10,23 would be the next bet, next 14 hits, bet 14,20,31 next let's say 36 hits 11,13,36 would be the last bet for this session that is 3+3+3+3 . (12 numbers in total).
if no hit, what i do next is double bet and do two more spins.
usually hitrate is pretty good, and most hits will come within this first session.
if one session is lost, i use progression +1u for the next bets until im recovered. that is i play with 2u until i reach a new high. you can go further in progression if necessary but only +1u bet for the next session. sometimes i prefer to stay with 2u until im recovered.
more spins...
more spins...
Been done to death
Quote from: buffalowizard on Sep 03, 10:21 AM 2014
Been done to death
i have never seen any system/method like this one,
i have optimized the bets, i tried different bets.
i have played it enough now to say it really works, i won more than i lost.
first session @dublinbet +100
Question for you (not insulting you)........ of the 427 methods you have posted, are any of them FLAT betting only? Not counting up or down units.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 03, 12:22 PM 2014
Question for you (not insulting you)........ of the 427 methods you have posted, are any of them FLAT betting only? Not counting up or down units.
Ken
i did try to flatbet, and i saved the chart. the best i could do with flatbet was to get a neutral trend (with this method) from the first test. i've optimized this bet as far as i could...but still the trend will be neutral. so, it can be played flatbet hit-and-run for shorter sessions perhaps?
second run @dublinbet +100 8)
Quote from: ignatus on Sep 03, 11:00 AM 2014
i have never seen any system/method like this one,
i have optimized the bets, i tried different bets.
i have played it enough now to say it really works, i won more than i lost.
first session @dublinbet +100
so you'll not be adding any more methods :thumbsup:
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 03, 03:40 PM 2014
so you'll not be adding any more methods :thumbsup:
why would i stop posting methods? i don't get your point >:(
question is can it be played for real? further testing is needed, but so far so good, it haven't failed yet, that is ofcourse i have lost but then i won more than i lost
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 03, 03:40 PM 2014
so you'll not be adding any more methods :thumbsup:
Quote from: ignatus on Sep 03, 04:41 PM 2014
why would i stop posting methods? i don't get your point >:(
My LOL moment for the day. :twisted:
Quote from: nowun on Sep 03, 06:14 PM 2014
My LOL moment for the day. :twisted:
what is your problem?
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 03, 03:40 PM 2014
so you'll not be adding any more methods :thumbsup:
Quote from: ignatus on Sep 03, 04:41 PM 2014
why would i stop posting methods? i don't get your point >:(
Quote from: nowun on Sep 03, 06:14 PM 2014
My LOL moment for the day. :twisted:
you took the bait,lol( R.B.L)
ignatus,
you post a lot of systems and I like that. dont listen to the negative people. responding to them is not even worth it. at least you make an effort to contribute.
seems to me you play a lot. do you play for a living?
out of all your methods which one wins most of the time?
QuoteMy LOL moment for the day.
Nowun, exactly what do you mean by this? As far as I can tell, Ignatus is an active contributor and doesnt cause any trouble. Perhaps I dont understand the situation here, but it seems from nowhere you had a go at him. Exactly why? Do you have a problem with him?
he takes time to test new ideas and make graphs
probably jealousy
Quote from: Steve on Sep 03, 07:08 PM 2014
Nowun, exactly what do you mean by this? As far as I can tell, Ignatus is an active contributor and doesnt cause any trouble. Perhaps I dont understand the situation here, but it seems from nowhere you had a go at him. Exactly why? Do you have a problem with him?
I have no problem with Ignatus or anyone else, I have in the past tested and posted my results of tests of ideas Ignatus has posted.
The exchange was just my LOL moment for today and I stated exactly that. I laughed out load at Ignatus acting ignorant of what nottophammer meant when he must know exactly what he meant.
From what I gather, your LOL was because you feel ignatus posts lots of methods that are no different than other losing approaches. Whether or not thats the case, he is still contributing actively and instead of criticizing people, it is more constructive and friendlier to explain WHY a particular approach wont work. The page at link:://:.roulettephysics.com/how-to-win-at-roulette/ (link:://:.roulettephysics.com/how-to-win-at-roulette/) may help. I've said it all before anyway. The main part is:
QuoteApproaches that DON'T work:
Save yourself some time and understand why most systems lose:
* Betting progression: most gamblers believe that if you bet higher to cover losses, that you'll eventually win and your bankroll will increase. But roulette doesn't work this way. When you increase bet size, all you do is increase the amount you risk on that individual spin. Remember that the wheel has no memory. It doesn't know or care if there were 10 reds in a row. And even after 10 reds, the odds or red or black spinning next haven't changed. So changing bet size wont help at all (unless you actually have a method to increase the accuracy of predictions).
* Thinking something is "due": as explained above, even after 10 or so reds, the odds of red or black spinning next do not change at all. Nothing is ever "due" to happen. The ball lands where it does only from cause and effect. That's real physical variables only.
* Systems that work well on a set sample of spins, but not new spins: Every set of previous spins will appear to have mysterious coincidences and patterns that aren't really patterns at all. In fact you can put it down to simple statistics in the sense that certain sequences of spins will inevitably occur over time. It doesn't at all mean they will occur again over new spins in the near future.
Players that have no understanding of these concepts will forever create the same systems again and again, but just repackaged a different way. And many players waste years of their life before they understand why they've been losing. Almost every professional gambler was once at this stage - even myself. And now we ask ourselves how we couldn't see plain logic before.
This is not necesarily directed at Ignatus. I really know nothing about his systems as I havent looked into them. It applies to anyone who has a losing system.
Another page to consider explains how to properly test a system:
link:://:.roulettephysics.com/testing/ (link:://:.roulettephysics.com/testing/)
Who wants to save time? Who wants to go around in circles? You know anyone can save a lot of time and save themselves 10 years of their life, if they understand what other people have learned, AND understand why things are as they are. Again it has all been said before. Most people brush over it and think "yeah but I'm looking for a simpler way".... while in complete denial about plain facts. 1 + 1 will never = 3. We always use that example. It means reality wont change.
It will always be the case that the only eway to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions. How? Well, why does the ball land where it does?.. Cause and effect. And how do we study this?.. Physics. That's why it's :.roulettephysics.com (link:://:.roulettephysics.com)
In my opinion physics and precognition are the only ways to beat roulette. Physics is something for sure that works. I believe we all have latent ability for precognition. Some of you may recall I did the majority vote precogniton tests a while back with good results. But it is very difficult to do a significant number of tests. There were lots of people who contributed and we'll do it again one day, but I need have created particular software to make larger scale more viable.
Another important consideration is the house edge. For the European wheel, it is -2.7%. A simple explanation is if you bet on one number, you can expect to win 1 in 37 spins. When you win, you are paid 35 chips plus your original bet. So after 37 spins, on average you'll be left with 36 chips. If everything was fair and the house edge didn't exist, you should have 37 chips after the 37 spins. To make this even simpler to understand, even when you win, you still actually lose because you are paid an UNFAIR amount. The effect of this is you slowly drain your bankroll. The only way to overcome this is by winning more times than statistically expected. In this case, winning more than 1 in 37 times.
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 03, 12:22 PM 2014
Question for you (not insulting you)........ of the 427 methods you have posted, are any of them FLAT betting only? Not counting up or down units.
Ken
Mr.J, thanks for the inspiration. to answer your question yes now i have: link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14686.msg124177#msg124177 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14686.msg124177#msg124177)
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Quote from: nowun on Sep 03, 10:14 PM 2014
I have no problem with Ignatus or anyone else, I have in the past tested and posted my results of tests of ideas Ignatus has posted.
The exchange was just my LOL moment for today and I stated exactly that. I laughed out load at Ignatus acting ignorant of what nottophammer meant when he must know exactly what he meant.
nowun got the little tongue in cheek joke. Hope the dust can settle