Hi,
I am wondering if anyone has this method and, of course, what you think of it if you do.
You can find the ad online, but he also has a demo video. Here is the link
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=L6kvuPW_ZSk&feature=youtu.be&list=UU8tT6eKqXt_8SK64-vThfOg (link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=L6kvuPW_ZSk&feature=youtu.be&list=UU8tT6eKqXt_8SK64-vThfOg)
It's pretty basic. But the thing that grabbed me is that I took the 15,000 roulette spins book and
randomly turned to a few pages, and the premise does seem to have some basis in reality.
The few checks that I've done seem to generate hits right away within maybe 3-4 spins or better.
I am seriously thinking of actually buying it.
Let me know what you think.
@ mogul397
I haven't looked at the video but I will ask you one simple question.....
IF it does win regularly why on earth would somebody sell it ?
O0
Hi,
Before you buy this... Check out my topic "Quantum Quads"
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14624.msg123813#msg123813 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14624.msg123813#msg123813)
It *might* not be all that much different!
A.
Another Siverthorne method!!
These systems are no systems at all, just ways to play and to enjoy short casino visits. Yes you can play those instead of Martingale or whatever....if thats what you're looking for.
They work when they work and fail miserably when they fail. Bottom line is that the progression outlined in this "Super Fail of a method on quads" only work in some short cases. In short term every system can give you some profit>>check the many graphs in some posts here on this forum. However the goal is to find systems that work LONG term, therefor such aggresive short cycled progressions are always bound to lose. There is no harm in playing these systems for fun, knowing that they're better left alone when you want to win consistently.
Bob
mogul - As always it's the age old question, if the methods are as successful as shown then he could be making millions as he could then compound & increase his minimums to be always cleaning up big time. Selling betting ideas is the MO (method of op) of betting losers to make some money out of players looking for winning ways that have so far been eluding them.
As to the videos, it's all too convenient & a con to have the numbers/cards prearranged that allow him to present ideas to eventually overcome losses & then show a profit. What I'm saying is you don't see the spin drops or deals from a randomly shuffled normal shoe ?
The corner bets will eventually be losing more than win on a string of negative (losing) spins. If you think otherwise then work out a progression & test it on a range of spins. If it mostly wins, then play it & in profit you could be ?
As with any systems/methods for sale, MAY THE BUYER ALWAYS BEWARE.
First of all I go back to the 80's looking at gambling systems and what always falls out
of the sky are the skeptics comments about "why would they sell it", etc etc.
If you are interested, there was a time when I bought various systems through the mail when I got
the letter. I LOVED reading the ad. It was horses, casino stuff, whatever. They cost in the $50 range. I would get the system, try it out, didn't work, and I'd return it for a refund. The refund NEVER came. I had letters drafted on the computer for this. I send a SECOND request (with documentation of order and payment. And I ALWAYS got the refund. There was a time when I had a trifecta going. Sent an order. Got a system. Sent for a refund on another system. I stopped for a while and got something later on. Sent it back.
I actually got a hand written note with my refund "please don't order any more systems because you always return them for a refund"......
Forgot this, but I thought I'd "claim my seat". I enjoyed seeing them for the matter of churning $100.
So back to the topic. No one answered it.
Second, like I said I grabbed a number book and the result always seemed to come out.
If you've stared at results as long as I have, after a while you almost sense things. And as
I saw these results come back in the quads, it almost seemed self evident to me. My attention has
NEVER been on the wheel or table layout. I NEVER was looking at physical spots. But when I connected this to the (close or same) numbers I realized in the number world that this seems to happen all the time.
Third, do I sense from some of the replies that someone has seen part of this?
Fourth. why do any of you lurk a group like this if all it's for it to scoff?
Fifth, and probably most important..... If you REALLY think about systems and methods,
and believe something might work, then it is not and "exact science". One method with
variations might work better than another and the one that does work will always be
acombination of stuff already worked with. So just because you see the same letters,
doesn't mean the word is spelled wrong...
It would be nice if someone actually had this and answered the question about what
it is and if they like it.
Hi mogul,
You have to remember that Silverthorne is first and foremost a system SELLER.
If you check further you will see that virtually all of his systems and strategy websites are similarly designed and essentially all follow the same identical pattern - with of course the one ultimate aim in mind... to get the reader to part with their $$$.
They're all skilfully presented in a certain proven tried and trusted way together with impressive L-O-N-G marketing blurb to grab your attention with the exciting and colorful claims, stats and testimonials.
These clever advertising techniques and gimmicks are simply to appeal to your gambling nature and hook you into the single act of BUYING what may seem to be an attractively priced pdf book.
That is the chief REASON his adverts are the way they are. They do the job, work powerfully for him, and no doubt bring in a steady flow of income. (If only his systems worked as powerful)
The books are usually well written and informative and the systems are well explained with examples.
I notice in this case too that he does offer a no quibble refund (well, either him, Russell Hunter or the author Greg Fletcher, that is)
Quote
Super Quads Roulette is Unconditionally Guaranteed to Perform to Your Complete Satisfaction.
There are no strings attached to this guarantee.
You don’t have to prove that you’ve tried the strategy.
You don’t have to show me copies of your losing games.
In fact, you don’t have to do anything at all if you want your money back.
Just email me and say, “I want my money back.â€
That’s all it takes. If you are not 100% delighted with the Super Quads Roulette Players Kit, if it isn’t everything I have promised and more, just let me know.
This way all of the risk is on me. You can try out this strategy any way you like for the next 365 days. If at any time it isn’t performing at the highest level possible, just tell me, “I want my money back.â€
This is as foolproof a guarantee of performance as you’ll ever see. You decide if you like this system or not. If you don’t love it or are unhappy with it for any reason, just let me know. I’ll make sure that you get a prompt and courteous refund with my full thanks for trying it out.
Take care,
A.
mogul - 1st up you did ask people on here what they think ? Then you berate posters for expressing their point of view ?
Skeptics you may say but as you so amply demonstrate with the large number of systems you bought & returned for a refund because they FAILED TO DELIVER the profits they claimed a user could make. You've have more experience in this area than anyone else I've come across & yet you're still pro system sellers ?
You did well to get your money back so many times.
As to no one answering your topic question ? Atlantis gave an alternative insight. ForeverBob expressed some knowledge on Silverthorne & that the plays may work doing hit & run ? I viewed the videos & gave some negative insights into the "doctoring" of the results. I did say that if it tested positive for you, then play it & enjoy the profits ?
As to your "SCOFF" remark = derisive - mock - contempt. I don't see that anywhere in the posts ? As such Mogul, overall, more than a little over the top ?
So Atlantis I went to your post and looked over your stuff quickly. As I said
there I haven't wrapped my head around this much, but yes, it does look like
it goes down the same path. If nothing else your videos are great and the music
very entertaining when I watch.
Great job.
As far as Silverthorne goes, like the "system whore" that I once was, I salivate when I see stuff about methods and a while back it was pointed out to me that
they are all available online if you search. I learned that that is true, and I now
have a folder full of every method of his that I've ever come across in PDF.
Except this one. This one hasn't reached the street yet. But he doesn't have
a penny of my money. I've heard rumors that they could not get refunds.
I suppose that kind of rumor is par for the course.
Either way, I think it is an interesting direction and I think that you proved that
in at least one of your videos.
Kind of like I saw someone else say while reading, I wouldn't be investing
a minute in any of this if I didn't think it had any merit. But I saw you do it,
and I saw it kind of work with every page of the 15000 book I flipped to.
Usually stupid stuff turns up that way pretty quick and I'm kind of curious
why this hasn't. Except what I said about "close" numbers coming up in
my vague recollection of a million numbers.
Keep working. Here's to possible success!!
PS I didn't totally get what method you used for selection.
But the Silverthorne thing intimated that there was some thing
about that.
Don't know.
Selection is the key.
silverthorne may sell some good techniques
but remember he probably gets them from forums like this then sells them
that video u posted is a brief idea and enough to try it out
OK.
Full disclosure. This is worth something.
I bought the method.
I tested the method on real data that night and it failed miserably.
I also went to the casino next day and same thing. Failed.
The night before and that morning I requested a refund. I had the thing over night.
I got the refund that next day.
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I've seen the system and it doesn't work. Basically you have an eight step progression to get a hit on 16 numbers. As everyone knows 16 numbers can and do sleep longer than that and it is impossible to achieve his projected win rates.
Keep your money in your pocket.
Guys,
Just q quick word on the Silverthorne publications, I've several of the books in PDF format, Guderian Progression (streets/lines), Power Pro Roulette (single dozen), Triple Win Roulette (EC, single dozen & single column), Jagger Formula (EC), Maximum Advantage Roulette (EC), and Tracker/Stieger Roulette (EC), and no, I didn't pay for any of them :), they are easy enough to find online, certainly the older publications.
I've tested the 3 EC systems, and the hit rate is about 50% on a good day, not any where near the 95%+ claimed, meaning you losing approximately 30 units for every 10 won, the progressions are are also very aggressive, although, the bet selections methods might be more viable with a less aggressive progression, of which there are plenty of on this forum, and with more realistic stops/losses than suggested.
Regarding the other non EC systems, I've not tested these at any great lengths, again the progressions seem very aggressive.
Regards
Jim
All these systems are just ways of play:
Take any betselection, apply a fancy trigger, and calculate a progression that wins in a few attempts.
Since roulette has different betselections, its obvious sellers apply the same crap over more betselections creating "more of the same" systems.
Truth is none of them work...
I tend to disagree with some of the comments. I have been playing ec with a soft bet progression
for years and I win at my local BM day in day out. Imo unfortunately some of u guys are looking under the
wrong rocks.....to find the pearls.
Chris can you share your method
I have shared it many many times.....; Just have to read my posts....;
the progressions are therein; just need to study the progression thouroughly,
practice, practice, pratice and get Rolling at real wheel.....
I notice there's another new-ish silverthorne method called "double action roulette!".
Seems to bet on 2 EC's per spin and there's a video on the gamblers bookcase youtube channel - 'turn £8 into thousands$$$' etc.. etc..
I'm interested because I always take an interest in any of his products - Does anybody have it? or know about the pattern betting/progression? I couldn't figure it out from the clip...
They are usually a rehash of his earlier systems but this one might be different/better?!?
Thanks,
A.