bringing it back alive
here is the link, you can download the PDF
link:s://:.dropbox.com/s/zmwixa1giyo9rsm/Stetson%20Bailey.pdf (link:s://:.dropbox.com/s/zmwixa1giyo9rsm/Stetson%20Bailey.pdf)
starts on page 33 goes to page 49 with variation starting on page 44
good progressions here my fellow roulette players
I'll test it out next
Seems an impressive system!
I tested over 100 sessions (see attached) and I cheated by continuing the session directly on from the previous (the system is either unaffected by this or works better in the long run). I think it lost £1000 in one of the first sessions, but others made TENS of thousands!
Next test will be @ 100 steps instead of 1000, and to find the average profit per session. We can then set a stop win.
Foolproof is a few different progressions. Try em all. Starting on page 30ish
Ok, well for this one @ 100 steps:
max = 1996
avg = 349
So stop win should be either 349 or 175?
Unfortunately the system failed every kind of test I attempted over multiple sessions:
Stop win/stop loss on/off, 349/165/1/20/100 100 steps, 2000 steps - you name it I tried to make it work to no avail.
no progression can help u winning my friends
Quote from: iggiv on Oct 31, 01:45 PM 2014
no progression can help u winning my friends
What can? Please enlighten us! :wink:
Only high quality bet selection.....; No mickey mouse system....... ;)
Different foolproof variations.
1) increase 1 unit every bet win or lose
2) increase 1 unit on a loss then decrease 1 unit in a win and stay at that level until a loss
3) with $5 units +5 on a loss -4 on a win
And I think theres a couple more in that pdf
With proper bankroll these progression should overcome 50/50 bets. May even be better for baccarat
Chris already did. As me (many times).
Quote from: falkor on Oct 31, 01:58 PM 2014
What can? Please enlighten us! :wink:
Does that mean you always flat bet then?
yep
link:s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution
link:s://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Normal_Distribution_PDF.svg/525px-Normal_Distribution_PDF.svg.png
this means that if you hope to compensate sleeping numbers by betting on them more you will finally pay everything back because of numbers that will sleep longer though less frequently. But that will be more than enough for you to lose. And house edge makes it even worse. That's a road to nowhere, it's already been tested many times.
there is also such a thing as a positive progression, it's smarter than negative, it tries to compensate on losses betting more on winning, but i don't believe in it either.
What has worked for you in terms of bet selection then?
1 double street from each dozen as an EC bet works for chris he stated that many many times
ok, let me re-test that as I used the wrong board layout for determining the middle ds.
I use the middle double streets not sure if chris does
Choose 1 double street from each dozen and test them
Can be 1 thru 6, 13 thru 18, and 25 thru 30
Or any other combination
I just double-checked and I had the Double Streets selected correctly, but they came out equal to their counterparts over 100K spins. There was no advantage/disadvantage in my testing.
it's too complicated to explain, there is also a gut feeling. let's say i look at the wheel and try to see what's goin on. it took years for me. and i can't claim i am winning big time. i am finding new things all the time trying to improve my game. but i am convinced u gotta look at the wheel to find out what's goin on on it.
Would that be based on wheel bias/section betting? Or does "see what's going on" mean looking for mathematical number patterns with past spins?
there are certain patterns on the wheel. but they are not so simple. and i find new ones all the time. So...No, it's not about bias.
It's a hit-n-run game.
To make things clear: no, my bet selection won't hold for thousands spins in a row like you guys try to find a right method, it will lose. It is not a holy grail.
hit and run is key
people talk about 100,000 spin tests, 1 million spin test and that is rubbish
test 100-1000 spins max
that one streak against the 3 middle doublestreets of 10 in a row in 100,000 spins means nothing to me
that's right. Nothing can beat roulette on many spins in a row. And i would say, don't test even 100 spins in a row. try a couple of spins, then skip and then try again.
ok cheers for your insights!
i know if i play the 3 center double streets i will get many hits and that progressions are typically safe. i also know if i stay at the table i will hit a string of 5 or 6 losses every now and then and it will kill me.
i think the key here is combining different system in the sessions.
maybe a martingale on 3 different double streets and when you hit (most likely you will, but if you continuously do this you will lose) goto a different method like bet on all double streets except for 1 that just hit for example
play a strategy when you win move to a different one.
if i goto the casino right now and martingale my 3 center double streets i will most likely hit before it gets crazy but if i stay at the table for a half hour, i will lose
if i go up to a table and play 11 streets i will most likely win, but if i do this for 5 spins i may lose. so the key is do one thing, win then move on to the next
using different methods helps. But table bet selection loses frequently.
"let's say i look at the wheel and try to see what's goin on. it took years for me" >>> I agree 100%, myself included.
Ken
Quote from: falkor on Oct 31, 05:23 PM 2014
I just double-checked and I had the Double Streets selected correctly, but they came out equal to their counterparts over 100K spins. There was no advantage/disadvantage in my testing.
Well theres your answer 50/50 like it should be.