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Title: House Edge - Dent It!
Post by: Orochi on Nov 03, 12:23 PM 2014
I would like to know your opinion if some studies or research of your's can prove that there is a mathematical system that can reduce the house edge.

In my research, I could create and simulate a mathematical system that can decrease the house edge, but never overcome it!
Title: Re: House Edge - Dent It!
Post by: ati on Nov 03, 12:53 PM 2014
Consider this first. There is no zero roulette available to play or test, with zero house edge, and no one can beat it. (at least I did not see and proof yet) Even the wizard of odds guys said, it's not possible to beat the zero house edge game, the best you can achieve long term is break even. Even if you had 1-2% edge over the house, you would still have to be very lucky to gain long term profit.
Title: Re: House Edge - Dent It!
Post by: Orochi on Nov 04, 11:39 PM 2014
With my studies I ​​can conclude that the results are different with RNG data and with real live spins data when used a systems that follow wheel patterns.

Dealers signature can influence spins, and computers can't do that.

In long term statistical data outcome is the same, but patterns can follow very different ways.

So computers can't simulate real roulette wheel.

For long time i was having the doubt, why this work on live table and simulations on RNG data always fail.

So my advise is don't generate or use RNG data, always get real spins data to test your systems.

So math can't beat the wheel, but you can brake the bank, but u shouldn't cause u can get banned.


Title: Re: House Edge - Dent It!
Post by: muggins on Nov 11, 06:47 AM 2015
Quote from: Orochi on Nov 04, 11:39 PM 2014
With my studies I ​​can conclude that the results are different with RNG data and with real live spins data when used a systems that follow wheel patterns.

Dealers signature can influence spins, and computers can't do that.

In long term statistical data outcome is the same, but patterns can follow very different ways.

So computers can't simulate real roulette wheel.

For long time i was having the doubt, why this work on live table and simulations on RNG data always fail.

So my advise is don't generate or use RNG data, always get real spins data to test your systems.

So math can't beat the wheel, but you can brake the bank, but u shouldn't cause u can get banned.

I think you are right about RNG, it doesn't behave the same as real wheel.  I also think the you should be looking for a system that can break even over for a set number of spins 9/10 times.  Then you have the makings of a profitable system long term.
Title: Re: House Edge - Dent It!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 11, 07:40 AM 2015
I agree 100000%

Even if RNG is true random, it still won't behave like a wheel
Title: Re: House Edge - Dent It!
Post by: Vaddis on Nov 11, 12:38 PM 2015
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 11, 07:40 AM 2015
I agree 100000%

Even if RNG is true random, it still won't behave like a wheel
I will give you the answer why rng not behave like a real wheel? On real wheel we have chaos theory and law of the third, on rng one is missing, which one?