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Title: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 10, 06:01 PM 2014
This is the most successful double dozens system I have tried

It is simple, which is a plus

Here is how it works:

Place a chip on the last dozen hit, playing for a repeat AND place a chip on the sleeping dozen, for this system the definition of the sleeping dozen is the last dozen that hit furthest back

example:
dozen 1--------newest spin
dozen 1
dozen 3
dozen 2--------oldest spin, 4 spins back

with this example your next bet would be: 1 chip on dozen 1, 1 chip on dozen 2

thats it

I like simple, and you can pick up a few units with this
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 10, 06:02 PM 2014
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Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 10, 06:39 PM 2014
no crazy progression. the hits are often, so just enough to break even then reset back to 1 unit
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 11, 08:29 PM 2014
Just wanted to follow up on this, mainly for those who like dozen bets

this baby works

in the same bet you are betting on the sleeper and the last dozen. since dozen tend to repeat

I have not went past 2nd step of the GLC dozen progression

read his most recent dozen thread to find the progression

I am having amazing runs with this

a chip on the last dozen hit and a chip on the dozen that hit furthest back....

I will be in Pittsburgh this weekend and will play this on live wheel there

another example for clarification

doz 1 ---most recent spin
doz 1
doz 3
doz 2 ---4 spins back

place 1 chip on doz 1 and 1 chip on doz 2. ignore doz 3 because it is neither the "sleeper" or the most recent

example 2

doz 2----most recent spin
doz 3
doz 2
doz 2
doz 3
doz 1----6 spins back

place 1 chip on doz 2 and 1 chip on doz 1

i believe the answer to this game is more simplistic rather than systems that require pen and paper and tracking

happy playing
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: ddarko on Nov 11, 09:04 PM 2014
you say it works RouletteGhost, that's brilliant, nice one......

how spins have you tested this for please....

O0
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 11, 09:16 PM 2014
I'm guessing you meant "how many"

Three. I have tested it for three spins. Thinks that's enough?
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: ddarko on Nov 11, 10:03 PM 2014
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 11, 09:16 PM 2014
I'm guessing you meant "how many"

Three. I have tested it for three spins. Thinks that's enough?

Correct I meant how many  :-[

Classy reply, thanks for the adult conversation......

I will leave you to it.

O0

Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 11, 10:16 PM 2014
Lol I thought u were being sarcastic

About 300 spins
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: vladir on Nov 14, 04:01 AM 2014
Dont want to sound negative, but it will lose...
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 01, 10:23 AM 2014
You have 2 options

1) dont read my posts.

2) test it before play
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 01, 11:38 AM 2014
Im sorry you lost money. Its a bad feeling
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 01, 02:52 PM 2014
This is bothering me because it worked in many days of testing quite well. Bad luck streak?

Maybe try the same system with columns. Always betting the most recent and the sleeper
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: Chris555p on Dec 01, 03:09 PM 2014
These sorts of systems don't work.....; There are pearls in the forum
why this obession of always testing / playing loosing systems........lol lol??
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: psimoes on Dec 01, 03:24 PM 2014
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Dec 01, 02:52 PM 2014
This is bothering me because it worked in many days of testing quite well. Bad luck streak?

Maybe try the same system with columns. Always betting the most recent and the sleeper

I've seen columns on XANAX for 15 spins... same odds...
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: Chris555p on Dec 01, 04:33 PM 2014
@ Green Meanie

The pearl is to simply focalised on playing DS. Pls read my previous posts; they have been
extensively covered previously  by myself and by other experienced players.

Focalised on what's working......; why reinvent the Wheel....?? Why waste time, energy
on studying loosing systems when the pearls are already there......??
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 01, 06:03 PM 2014
Quote from: Green Meanie on Dec 01, 04:19 PM 2014
Roulette Ghost  I was a bit harsh earlier. In my days of testing and first session using money, I did well, until today. I had a betting bank of 1000 units. It shows that every now and then the system will tank. It might be worth splitting your bank into 2 or 3 chunks and using only one of them. That way, if you lose it, you can use the reserve bank to recover your loss

I was going to say that

betting the most recent dozen and the sleeping dozen at the same time has a nice hit rate and wins often

i believe you just got unlucky in your session and it is not a often thing

after a few losses id walk to another table

edit: perhaps switching this to columns instead of dozens is better it seems in preliminary testing, up one on a loss down one on a win
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 01, 06:17 PM 2014
the theory behind it is the best of both worlds. ive seen dozens/columns repeat 6 times in a row easily. so you are betting the most recent because there is a chance it will repeat and you are betting the least recent/sleeper

there is a tweak to this that will make it win

right now up on a loss down on a win looks good. the hitrate is good enough for a negative progression. progressions are not the answer but with a good hit rate they make you recoup faster
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: Chris555p on Dec 01, 06:58 PM 2014
@ GreenMeanie - As I mentioned in my previous post, focalise on DS this is where the
pearls are. Read my previous posts concerning DS; the pearls are just there.
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: Chris555p on Dec 01, 07:32 PM 2014
@Greenmeanie - For me to find the pearls I scrutinized more than 10,000 pages
on the forum; I added my own ideas; I worked for thousands of hours before
results showed up. You have to be very consistent if you want to reach something.
If u focalise on DS you are on the right direction.
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: Turner on Dec 02, 04:02 AM 2014
Quote from: Green Meanie on Dec 02, 03:05 AM 2014
Chris555p.

My considered opinion. You have an over-inflated ego but at the end of the day, you are just full of BS
Green...
your criticism of Chris is getting more direct. This one is deletable. Stop now please
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: Turner on Dec 02, 04:44 AM 2014
Quote from: Green Meanie on Dec 02, 04:22 AM 2014
Turner, direct perhaps but well deserved. I say it as I see it. I don't like over inflated egos and I don't like BS. If you can't handle that, it's your problem.
green meany is banned for 2 days
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: Chris555p on Dec 02, 12:14 PM 2014
@GreenMeanie- Read the forum rules again. No personal attack on this forum
or the moderator will kick u out.

Remember: The fried chickens don't fall for free from the sky you have to pay
for them in KFC or Mac Donald.  I worked 10,000 hours or more before results
showed up. If u want the goodies to fall from the sky, u are definitely talking
to the wrong guy.

Noone is obliged to give their playing secrets to everyone.  They only give it to
who they want. Thanks for your understanding.

Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: tj5566 on Dec 03, 04:44 AM 2014
Quote from: Chris555p on Dec 02, 12:14 PM 2014
@GreenMeanie- Read the forum rules again. No personal attack on this forum
or the moderator will kick u out.

Remember: The fried chickens don't fall for free from the sky you have to pay
for them in KFC or Mac Donald.  I worked 10,000 hours or more before results
showed up. If u want the goodies to fall from the sky, u are definitely talking
to the wrong guy.

Noone is obliged to give their playing secrets to everyone.  They only give it to
who they want. Thanks for your understanding.

Hey Chris
Dont waste your breath pal, let them find the system for themselves  ;)
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: Chris555p on Dec 03, 05:51 AM 2014
Hi Tj5566

Thanks; Totally agree with u mate  :)
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: Turner on Dec 03, 07:34 AM 2014
I didnt approve and removed Freewheels posts as he had the same IP as Green Meanie.
And no...Im not resigning as a MOD.
Green....your ban is over....although the sillyness with Freewheel doesnt help does it?
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: Turner on Dec 03, 08:43 AM 2014
I'll leave the post in for posterity
Grean Meanie is banned
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: iggiv on Dec 03, 12:00 PM 2014
Green Mean is banned for a week for insults and posting under different nicks for this purpose.
One more attempt to insult and I will ban him for a month. Further attempt and he'll be banned for good.
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: Steve on Dec 03, 05:30 PM 2014
I deleted all his posts and made the ban permanent. His kind of behavior is not acceptable and he knows it. He shouldnt expect anything less.
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: serious sam on Dec 04, 02:53 AM 2014
Ok, back to the topic.My ideas about this system ?I think this system can work on SOME wheels .
The idea is good -playin the most recent column and the oldest (sleeping colum) .It is common sense and logical ...but roulette wheel has nothing to do whit common sense and logic it has to do whit random numbers,collums.So on most wheels you can play this system or just play randomly -is the same thing.Sometimes you win, somtimes you loose. If its working for you tell us on wich wheel do you play ?

the part i agree- when you play roulette always stick to a plan ,strategy,a minimal bet and a maximal bet.Thats why I like to read new ideas wich then I adapt for me.I search google,youtube ,forums, EVRething ! Learn,learn ,learn -then combine this things...eventually something good will come out !
the part I dont agree -theres no 100% ,or even 90% winning forumla .Eventually it all reduces to luck .The key is to know when to stop (when winning or loosing) .The thing I really hate is when casinos changin the rules during the game (with special dedication to the winner)
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: GLC on Dec 04, 10:35 AM 2014
Quote from: serious sam on Dec 04, 02:53 AM 2014
Ok, back to the topic.My ideas about this system ?I think this system can work on SOME wheels .
The idea is good -playin the most recent column and the oldest (sleeping colum) .It is common sense and logical ...but roulette wheel has nothing to do whit common sense and logic it has to do whit random numbers,collums.So on most wheels you can play this system or just play randomly -is the same thing.Sometimes you win, somtimes you loose. If its working for you tell us on wich wheel do you play ?

the part i agree- when you play roulette always stick to a plan ,strategy,a minimal bet and a maximal bet.Thats why I like to read new ideas wich then I adapt for me.I search google,youtube ,forums, EVRething ! Learn,learn ,learn -then combine this things...eventually something good will come out !
the part I dont agree -theres no 100% ,or even 90% winning forumla .Eventually it all reduces to luck .The key is to know when to stop (when winning or loosing) .The thing I really hate is when casinos changin the rules during the game (with special dedication to the winner)

Thanks for the post SS.  It sums it up nicely.  Two things I might add, the rarer the event you're playing against, the more it costs when it happens.  The more common the event you're playing against, the less it costs but the more often it happens.

Steve is right.  Bet selection is king!  That means getting an edge based on dealer signature or wheel bias is worth looking at if you love the game enough to put out the money and effort. 

We all know that without the above, previous spins mean nothing for predicting future spins other than we know that streaks don't go on forever... nor do numbers, streets, lines, dozens and even chances sleep forever.  Because of the unfair payoff rate capitalizing on this knowledge is impossible with a purely mechanical system.

That means we have to incorporate Victor's "conscious decision" concept in our system or it's doomed to eventual failure.  How to do that is the challenge for each of us.  It'll be different for each person and can only be developed by experience.

Cheers,

GLC
Title: Re: Double Dozens - Most recent and the sleeper
Post by: serious sam on Dec 16, 07:05 AM 2014
When I play 2/3 system @Collums or Dozens ,I ALWAYS make one bet on middle (collumn or dozzen-depending what I play) and one bet the last winning dozen .So far so good :thumbsup: