Briefly...........
This is an "in column" bet. You want three hits with two spaces not hit. Example using the middle column: you get a hit on 11 and 17 so you bet for a hit on 23. The X is a hit and the O is a number that has not been hit.
You can have a double bet: 5 hit, 11 hit bet is on 17. ALSO 23 has hit and 29 has hit, so you bet the 17 again. Always play as many numbers as qualify. Usually about four is max before you win or have to quit.
Look at a layout and place an X on the hits. It will be clear. The bet may be for the first X, the second X or the third X. You want to see hit-miss-hit-miss-hit; XOXOX. See?
When to quit....................
If a street fills, like a hit on 1, 2 and 3........stop, clear the sheet and start over.
If a quad fills, like 2, 3, 5, and 6.......stop, clear the sheet and start over.
This is a flat bet method. It is fun to play and will amaze those around you when you hit straight up.
I'm gone............
Sam
Hello Sam,
Can you give an example ( picture/youtube ) of how you play it?
Do you make a 6x6 block or use the normal roulette layout ?
grtz R
Hi
I use a laminated exact replica of the layout--no matrix or other design.
Let's use some of Mr. J's numbers he posted as I have them copied. Take your copy of the layout and begin Xing off the following numbers:
10
12
28
33
16
Look at column A or 1. 1 4 7 10 13 16 19 22
If the number 4 comes, you would win or if the number 22 comes you would win. Either created an XOXOX pattern.
In this example, it would be a long time before 4 or 22 came and probably a street would fill or a quad would fill. Then you start over.
Sam
Ok thanks! Going to try few sessions
Grtz R
Well, well. It does look familiar!
Thanks for bringing it up again!
But don´t expect never to lose with it!
Friend or foe?
TIC-TAC-TOE ;D
As Sam just explained, we use the normal table layout and not a 6x6 block.
In area 1-36 there are a number of squads, carreaux or corners. But half of their numbers are in the middle column.
In the worst case scenario only six sleeping numbers can prevent any corner to complete.
If 2, 8, 14, 20, 26, 32 are sleeping, no corner is completed.
DANE
Aha found it. So u play all 3 columns? And u flatbet let's say 1 unit? And after a street or squad full...reset? Correct?
What is the bankroll here? 100 units?
Correct, denzie
The bankroll is until I get tired of playing.
I have also begin using the layout in a new way---not sanctioned by Dane. If you are at the beginning or end of the carpet and you can go forward or backward and make a xoxox, do so.
For instance, say you have an x in the 1 and 7 pockets. I would then bet the 31 as my final x. Look at the carpet and you will see. Or lay two carpets end to end and it is very easy to see.
I sometimes double and triple the bet when I have not had a winner in a while. I am more into gambling for fun than winning.
Sam
EDIT: I have also found that there are rare times when a single number will qualify for three bets. It will complete xoxox in three different places. Yep, it's true.
Not sure if that works... just played it 1 hour and i didn't hit b4 a street or squad filled. Maybe just bad luck. It starts easy en low in bets but if u not hit then more and more bets come . And my bankroll didn't go up. But i will try some more. Can't win every day of course. And just my 3x dozen failed me too today. So not a good time to keep going. Tomorrow is another day...
denzie
I have played about ten sessions in the past two years and lost one.
Honest...
Sam
10 sessions in 2 years ? That's not much. Lol. But for me it was just session 1....so that means nothing. I will test much more. Never try , never know
denzie
You must understand I am an American and can't play on line--well, I don't anyway. It is a 30 mile drive to the nearest casino and I have grass to plant, nurture, pray over and mow. Lots of other things in my life but roulette.
I have never claimed this to be the "one", but it is FUN to play and people just freak out when you hit the first number you bet on.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 21, 04:43 PM 2015
denzie
You must understand I am an American and can't play on line--well, I don't anyway. It is a 30 mile drive to the nearest casino and I have grass to plant, nurture, pray over and mow. Lots of other things in my life but roulette.
I have never claimed this to be the "one", but it is FUN to play and people just freak out when you hit the first number you bet on.
Sam
Hi Sam; I hope that you are fine. Sorry for not answering another letter of yours,
but I was busy listening to "Aarhus International Piano Competion 2015" ( here in Denmark).
I suppose it was not broadcasted in RIVERWIND :) :)
You might NEVER have claimed this method to be the "one". But you HAVE more than once claimed NEVER to have lost with it.
TIME is still important........
By the way: In "DC´s Campus net" (it is German) winkel has just mentioned the method.
Sam, I don't mean to interrupt the flow of this topic, but I do have a question and a comment.
I like this method because it gives us an organized way to play the game which I think is better than just throwing chips onto the board willy nilly. Using the completed street or corner is a good signal to end this attack and start another. Flat betting is obviously the best bet method assuming we have an advantage with our bet selection.
What I don't understand is what there is about this method that meets your criteria for a "reason" that it should/may work. If your statement about it being "fun to play" supersedes the "reason that it should work" then that's fine and easy to understand. I just want to make sure I'm not missing something else.
Having said that, here's a reason to play this per the wheel instead of the carpet and it should work as well and maybe even a little better. How long you would have to test both ways to determine this only God knows??
For wheel based, wait until we have 2 numbers hit with one un-hit number between them then bet the appropriate numbers on both ends. End the attack when we have a win or a segment of 3 numbers in a row that have hit anywhere on the wheel. (This would replicate the completing of a street). If we want a longer attack, we could quit when we have a win or a segment of 4 numbers in a row (replicating a corner) that have hit anywhere on the wheel.
The reasoning for playing it wheel based is that it would take advantage of dealer signature or wheel bias if either exists. That, I think, is a reason why this method should work.
What say you my friend? :thumbsup:
George
Dane
I'll be the first to admit, I have not played this enough to make a definitive statement. And I did have one losing day....
I am not good at staying on the subject while playing at Riverwind. I do not record wins and losses as I should. I play XOXOX in conjunction with Mr J's "Basil", or whatever.
Frankly, the most fun for me is to play and not miss a bet. With this method, it is very easy for me to overlook at bet. I overlooked four my last trip. Don't ask me why; just my feeble mind.
Sam
George
For years I sought a logical answer as to why something would or would not win. With the exception of the unlimited bankroll coupled with the table with no limit, I never have found it. Most things are voodoo. Look at the stuff Proofreader posts. Is there a reason why betting the way he does makes sense? Or Mr J and his "Two's Company". Or XOXOX. None of them make sense by math or logic.
So I consider everything voodoo of some sort. John Legend's "Pattern Breaker" was based on a flawed logic and look how that turned out.
I do believe that a person who sits in one place will be overlooked before he will be hit. XOXOX moves about a lot as does the two by Mr J. Perhaps that's it. Proof's systems only bet for a limited time and then change or quit. Perhaps that's it.
I am going to do an extensive test of Mr J's "A Method With Teeth". He claims that to be his number one system/method other than the two he won't discuss. I will use the Zuma tester and will open a thread when I get some data.
The more I study roulette and random, the more I come to realize my ignorance on the subjects.
TwoCat
2Cat,
I think it might boil down to playing or creating a new method everytime you play?
You play for just one win, or.... a total loss of your progression or flat bet to -25% of your BR......
Once you reach 1000 methods played once, you play all the winning methods once again, after this round you play the new remaining winning methods once again etc. Just one idea.
To be honest I think I will never be a able to play 1000 methods once in a live casino or even on a online live casino.
amk
I see this as sort of a hit and run--and one that might have merit. I will admit, there are few times I go to the casino when I am not up 25% of my bankroll in the beginning. (Those few times can kill!) Rotating systems is a great idea.
My problem is universal: I am there! I don't want to quit and go home. I just drove 30 miles and have played one hour or less. My bankroll is so small, I only make $10 or so before I have to leave. Where's the fun in that?
So maybe I need to switch systems constantly and pretend I'm someone else!
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 22, 01:57 PM 2015
George
For years I sought a logical answer as to why something would or would not win. With the exception of the unlimited bankroll coupled with the table with no limit, I never have found it. Most things are voodoo. Look at the stuff Proofreader posts. Is there a reason why betting the way he does makes sense? Or Mr J and his "Two's Company". Or XOXOX. None of them make sense by math or logic.
So I consider everything voodoo of some sort. John Legend's "Pattern Breaker" was based on a flawed logic and look how that turned out.
I do believe that a person who sits in one place will be overlooked before he will be hit. XOXOX moves about a lot as does the two by Mr J. Perhaps that's it. Proof's systems only bet for a limited time and then change or quit. Perhaps that's it.
I am going to do an extensive test of Mr J's "A Method With Teeth". He claims that to be his number one system/method other than the two he won't discuss. I will use the Zuma tester and will open a thread when I get some data.
The more I study roulette and random, the more I come to realize my ignorance on the subjects.
TwoCat
I'm in total agreement with every word you just wrote. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Also, playing the wheel vs the table shouldn't make any difference unless there is such a thing as dealer signature. Flawed wheels are less likely, and should be a thing of the past. Nevertheless, this system would capitalize on a flawed wheel as well.
I went out to our local casino today and tested my wheel based adaptation to our airball machine and walked away with over 100 units (quarter units is all they have down here). Is there such a thing as airball wheel signature? I can't tell for sure, but I'm leaning toward "Yes!" for our airball machine. Every system I've tried playing that would do better if a signature existed has won. Maybe not enough to prove beyond a doubt a signature exists, but more promising than if I had lost.
When dealing with such a small disadvantage, it can be easily overcome with slightly better than odds spins your way. And that can go on for a very long time before the hammer falls the other way.
Keep trying to have fun.
GLC
Edit: While I was typing, you posted your last post. I have that same problem. It's hard to get a balance between betting enough to make it interesting and risking more than you can afford to lose.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 22, 01:57 PM 2015
George
For years I sought a logical answer as to why something would or would not win. With the exception of the unlimited bankroll coupled with the table with no limit, I never have found it. Most things are voodoo. Look at the stuff Proofreader posts. Is there a reason why betting the way he does makes sense? Or Mr J and his "Two's Company". Or XOXOX. None of them make sense by math or logic.
So I consider everything voodoo of some sort. John Legend's "Pattern Breaker" was based on a flawed logic and look how that turned out.
I do believe that a person who sits in one place will be overlooked before he will be hit. XOXOX moves about a lot as does the two by Mr J. Perhaps that's it. Proof's systems only bet for a limited time and then change or quit. Perhaps that's it.
I am going to do an extensive test of Mr J's "A Method With Teeth". He claims that to be his number one system/method other than the two he won't discuss. I will use the Zuma tester and will open a thread when I get some data.
The more I study roulette and random, the more I come to realize my ignorance on the subjects.
TwoCat
Yeah, there is no way I believe....pick ANY numbers, it makes no difference. Only the lazy person (not you Sam) thinks this way. Cant tell you how many times I have fallen asleep while driving because I only got 2 hours of sleep.....up all night testing roulette ideas.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Mar 22, 10:14 PM 2015
Yeah, there is no way I believe....pick ANY numbers, it makes no difference. Only the lazy person (not you Sam) thinks this way. Cant tell you how many times I have fallen asleep while driving because I only got 2 hours of sleep.....up all night testing roulette ideas.
Ken
"THE HIGHWAY IS FOR GAMBLERS, BETTER USE YOUR SENSE
TAKE WHAT YOU HAVE GATHERED FROM COINCIDENCE" (Bob Dylan)
Lack of sleep might be as dangerous as drinking & driving!
I myself get additionel rest through Transcendental Meditation;
and I have meditated almost as long as film maker Davin Lynch.
Unfortunately learning this scientifically validated method nowadays
may cost as much as a new car :(
Dane
Reading your posts and methods I see great understanding and knowledge in combinatorics.
Concernig tic- tac- toe on roulette, I wonder what Alfred W. Hales and Robert I. Jewett would say about your ideas discussed here 8)
Cheers
Quote from: Drazen on Feb 09, 08:34 AM 2016
Dane
Reading your posts and methods I see great understanding and knowledge in combinatorics.
Concernig tic- tac- toe on roulette, I wonder what Alfred W. Hales and Robert I. Jewett would say about your ideas discussed here 8)
Cheers
Thanks! Most of us don´t know these persons.
Maybe you can Enlighten us?
TIME is still essential.
Recently I have combined somewhat strange criteria with a DEADLINE:
At least THREE repeated numbers in FIVE of the six well known DS.
Counting those is easier than counting spins.
Well their theorem is one of the techniques in Ramsey theory. Also,one of the members here recently pointed it would be useful to research on that subject. And that member seems to found a way to create very nice edge over the game :o
I still think all that is a bit of long winding process but maybe for some it might be worth in the end.
Concerning Tic tac toe, simply said, these gents proved that certain types of this game cannot end in a draw.
Cheers
DRAW. :thumbsup: It reminds me
that I have a CHESS appointment to keep tomorrow.
Apart from that: Thanks for the information.