This is certainly nothing new, it has been tried before. but it's working. i tried to find a easy and effective trigger...
trigger: wait until 3 RED or 3 BLACKs hit in one dozen, then bet for the opposite color in that particular dozen. 6 numbers bet for 6 spins.
flatbet
So 6 numbers for 6 spins at 1â,¬(36â,¬). Correct ?
And the 3 red or black hits in the same dozen not need follow each other ? I mean in 3 spins
Quote from: denzie on Dec 23, 03:38 AM 2014
So 6 numbers for 6 spins at 1â,¬(36â,¬). Correct ?
And the 3 red or black hits in the same dozen not need follow each other ? I mean in 3 spins
6 numbers for 6 spins , yes. and they don't have to hit in sequence.
Thx...I will give it a few 1000spins. Also I read your post on the splits in the double street , this I will test too.
Could work cuz all comes bit same on 1000 spins .
So what u do when they not come in the 6 spins? Just forget the 36â,¬ and keep going with the next dozens ?
Quote from: denzie on Dec 23, 06:02 AM 2014
Thx...I will give it a few 1000spins. Also I read your post on the splits in the double street , this I will test too.
Could work cuz all comes bit same on 1000 spins .
So what u do when they not come in the 6 spins? Just forget the 36â,¬ and keep going with the next dozens ?
if no hit, STOP after 6 spins and look for the next trigger.
This works great !!
Can you elaborate a little more on the rules. 3 reds or blacks then bet the opposite in that dozen
But within how many spins do 3 red or blacks in the dozen need to hit within? Consecutively or within 10 spins?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Dec 23, 02:34 PM 2014
Can you elaborate a little more on the rules. 3 reds or blacks then bet the opposite in that dozen
But within how many spins do 3 red or blacks in the dozen need to hit within? Consecutively or within 10 spins?
not consecuently, and not necessarily within 10,(but most of the time it will be within the last 10) 3 hits is enough for a trigger
I've found it to be hitting at the first try of the 6 bets mostof the time! So I maximize profits by only betting once, and if failed I wait for another trigger. Could someone please code this in the long run btw?
EDIT: might work even better with 2 tries, instead of just 1.
I played with +1/-1 progression (+1u after 6 spins, -1u at win)
Ignatus, within what period of time do 3 of the same color of the same dozen have to come in before you bet?
Can they be separated by another color?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Dec 26, 07:26 AM 2014
Ignatus, within what period of time do 3 of the same color of the same dozen have to come in before you bet?
Can they be separated by another color?
There is no special timeframe or limit, and no they cannot be seperated by another color.
Ok so three in a row is required. Thanks
Thank you, this works.
Hi, any update about the strategy?, thank.
One more question. ... u play more then one dozen at same time or u stay with 1 ? Now I play more then 1 if possible and it makes profit fast.
Quote from: denzie on Dec 29, 02:48 PM 2014
One more question. ... u play more then one dozen at same time or u stay with 1 ? Now I play more then 1 if possible and it makes profit fast.
i play only one doz at a time
Hello all!
First off, happy new year to everyone. First time poster, but been reading a little of this forum for a few months now.
I was looking for a new way to bet on inside numbers since I "accidentally" accepted a bonus and I can't play dozens-columns-even chance while I have the bonus, and this method intrigued me , so I checked against some of my old live casino numbers, and it seemed to work, so I decided to give it a try with real money.
I play it as igantus said: wait for 3 numbers of the same color in a given dozen WITHOUT any number from the other color in between in that dozen, and then play all 6 numbers from the other color, flatbet, until a win or 6 spins MAX. My play session is played until I have 6 "wins" (personnal choice, that way my sessions are shorter since I have 3 young kids at home), where a "win" is counted only on bets 1 through 5 (since bet 6 only recoups the money you lost); everytime I lose a level, I substract a win.
Where I differed a little from ignatus's way is I play it in a very agressive manner: I play any number of open dozens at the same time (yes, I once played all 3 dozens), I use "winning" triggers as part of new triggers to bet earlier (say I had 3 red in 1st dozen, I started betting the black numbers in that dozen and I win, then as soon as I have 2 other black numbers in that dozen (without any red) I'll start betting on the red numbers).
Also, if I lose all 6 bets in a dozen (let's say betting red), and a black number comes up in that dozen afterwards, I'll restart betting all the reds again (since the last 3 were black), once again to get triggers faster.
Every level is flatbet, and when I lose a level, instead of the +1u/-1u that ignatus uses for the next levels, I use the progression 1u-2u-3u-6u-12u in order to get my money back faster, and I'll stay at a given level until I regained all the money I lost (and then go back to level 1).
And last but not least, if I'm betting on more than one dozen and lose a level on one of them, I'll immediatly change level on the other dozen(s) I'm playing for the rest of the 6 bets only though (NOT for 6 more bets).
Remeber that each bet is 6 numbers, for 6 times max so each level costs 36xyour base unit for that level. That means the total cost of the system in case of a total loss (for me) is 36+72+108+216+432=864 units. Here's the breakdown of my 7 live sessions (played with real money, at Luckylive casino which uses the dublinbet feed):
1. +126 units, went up to 6u bet
2. +75 units, went to 2u bet
3. +216 units, went to 3u bet
4. +108 units, stayed at 1u bet
5. +96 units, went to 2u bet
6. +150 units, went to 3u bet
7. +162 units, went to 2u bet
For a total after only 7 sessions (played in the last 3 days) of +933 units! So for the moment, the system is "free" since I more than doubled my initial bankroll.
So yes it works (for the moment at least, I know 7 sessions is too few to tell mid-long term). I'll keep you all updated in the next few days how I fare (yes, even when I lose I'll post since I'm certain it will lose eventually). I'm very curious to see if I manage to win more than the eventual losses. I'll keep my aggressive progression until I lose all the level twice (in a relatively short time).
Good luck to all!
Hi there and welcome to the forum - good post. I just got these numbers up from wiesbaden, on a quick first check, it looks like a touch session - please could you show how you'd play them? Thanks a lot,
BW
36
12
8
6
21
15
25
8
22
29
17
11
22
5
0
5
22
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20
5
13
17
9
29
17
35
29
12
23
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35
6
3
31
35
12
6
9
0
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16
7
20
7
22
18
4
22
14
10
35
31
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12
4
16
22
26
8
3
Hi There and thanks for the greeting!
OK, here it is... 1st number is doz, second R or B, 3rd is the number of times it happened
36 3R1
12 1R1
8 1B1
6 1B2
21 2R1
15 2B1
25 3R2
8 1B3 - trigger, start betting red 1 doz.
22 2B2 - lose 6, -6 total
29 3B1 - lose 6, -12 total
17 2B3 - trigger for 2D, lose 6, -18 total
11 1B4 - lose 6 1D, -24 1D, lose 6 2D, -6 2D total -30
22 2B4 - lose 6 1D, -30 1D, lose 6 2D, -12 2D total -42
5 1R1 - win 30 1D, 0 1D (so no win), lose 6 2D, -18 2D, total -18
0 - lose 6 2D, -24 2D, total -24
5 1R2 - lose 6 2D, -30 2D, total -30
22 2B5 - lose 6 2D, -36 2D, total -36, level loss so next base 2, win count -1
Just a note: as I said, I play agressive, so since the last number was in the dozen we were playing (but wrong color), I'll restart immediatly playing that dozen.
-- -- --
20 2B6 - lose 12 2D, -12 2D, total -48
5 1R3 - lose 12 2D, -24 2D, total -60, trigger for 1D
13 2B7 - lose 12 2D, -36 2D, lose 12 1D, -12 1D, total -84
17 2B8 - lose 12 2D, -48 2D, lose 12 1D, -24 1D, total -108
9 1R4 - lose 12 2D, -60 2D, lose 12 1D, -36 1D, total -132
29 3B2 - lose 12 2D, -72 2D (level loss), lose 12 1D, -48 1D, total -156, base is now 3, win count -2
17 2B9 - lose 18 1D, -66 1D, total -174, trigger for 2D
35 3B3 - lose 18 1D, -84 1D (level loss), lose 18 2D, -18 2D, total -192, trigger for 3D, base is now 6, win count -3
29 3B4 - lose 36 2D, -54 2D, lose 36 3D, -36 3D, total -268
12 1R5 - lose 36 2D, -90 2D, lose 36 3D, -72 3D, total -340, trigger 1D
23 2R1 - win 180 2D, +90 2D, lose 36 3D, -108 3D, lose 36 1D, -36 1D, total -232, win count -1
-- -- --
35 3B5 - lose 36 3D, -144 3D, lose 36 1D, -72 1D, total -304
6 1B1 - lose 36 3D, -180 3D, win 180 1D, +108 1D, total -232, win count 0
3 1R1 - lose 36 3D, -216 3D (level loss), total -264, base in now 12, win count -1
31 3B6 - trigger for 3D
35 3B7 - lose 72 3D, -72 3D, total -336
12 1R2 - lose 72 3D, -144 3D, total -408
6 1B1 - lose 72 3D, -216 3D, total -480
9 1R1 - lose 72 3D, -288 3D, total -522
0 - lose 72 3D, -360 3D, total -594
-- -- --
16 2R2 - lose 72 3D, -432 3D (level loss), total -666, win count -2, session lost...
When I lose a session, I take a break of at least 2 hours before playing again, mostly to make sure I'm in control of my emotions and don't try to "chase back" wins.
I knew that the system could/would lose, what I'm most curious about is will it win more than it loses... probably not, but I won't know till I try!
I have another session to add, +90 units this time, and went to 12u, so that makes it 8 sessions, +1023 units... will keep you posted after the next session (later tonight/early tomorrow).
Hello all.
Quick update... the 1st loss came and went without too much ripple, here are the latest results:
9. +150u, went to 6u
10. -505u (1st loss)
11. +102u, went to 3u
12. +180u, went to 3u
13. +186u, went to 12u
So after 13 session, I'm at +1136 units... stay lucky everyone!
Hello again, time for another update!
14. +104u, went to 6u
15. +43u, went to 6u (session cut short by my kids)
16. +173u, went to 12u
17. +204u, went to 6u.
So after 17 session, I'm at +1670 units... ;D :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Stay lucky everyone! I will update again in 2-3 days only since I'm the only one posting in this thread...
Great stuff Noreilles, I look forward to your updates
Good luck !
Hello all!
As promised, an update:
18. +225u, went to 12u
19. +84u, went to 2u (session cut short)
20. +78u, went to 3u
21. +421u, went to 12u (2 simultaneous sessions on 2 tables, won on 1st and 2nd number, stopped there)
22. +168u, went to 2u
23. +268u, went to 6u
For a grand total of +2914u after 23 sessions (in 7 days... with a loss along the way).
Well, maybe I'm just overly lucky so far, but I'm at over 3 times the required units for the system (864 units should I lose 36 times in a row without any wins).
So I'll keep you updated only when I start losing (I know that seeing a string of winning amounts in not that usefull to anyone), but otherwise I'm gonna consider this my new system and hopefully win for a long time! Thanks a bunch for this ignatus!
Quote from: Noreilles on Jan 05, 12:53 PM 2015
Hello all!
As promised, an update:
18. +225u, went to 12u
19. +84u, went to 2u (session cut short)
20. +78u, went to 3u
21. +421u, went to 12u (2 simultaneous sessions on 2 tables, won on 1st and 2nd number, stopped there)
22. +168u, went to 2u
23. +268u, went to 6u
For a grand total of +2914u after 23 sessions (in 7 days... with a loss along the way).
Well, maybe I'm just overly lucky so far, but I'm at over 3 times the required units for the system (864 units should I lose 36 times in a row without any wins).
So I'll keep you updated only when I start losing (I know that seeing a string of winning amounts in not that usefull to anyone), but otherwise I'm gonna consider this my new system and hopefully win for a long time! Thanks a bunch for this ignatus!
GREAT! :D best wishes to you, and congrats to your winnings!
Thanks for your results. Can you explain your progression?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 05, 01:31 PM 2015
Thanks for your results. Can you explain your progression?
I thought I was clear a few posts back but here goes again:
Each level is flatbet for a max of 6 times (or until a win). On a loss, go to the next level and at the next trigger flatbet again for a max of 6 times (or until a win); I'll stay at a given level until I have won back what I lost earlier.
I use an aggressive level progression to recoup losses faster: 1u, 2u, 3u, 6u, 12u.
So here's an extreme example using fake numbers:
1 - 1 - 1 (trigger, start betting all black numbers in 1st dozen)
3 loss, -6u
3 loss, -6u, total -12u
3 loss, -6u, total -18u
3 loss, -6u, total -24u
3 loss, -6u, total -30u
31 loss, -6u, total -36u, wait for next trigger, playing with a 2u base instead of 1
31 - 31 (trigger, play all red numbers in 3rd dozen, base 2u)
33 loss, -12u, total -48u
31 loss, -12u, total -60u
33 loss, -12u, total -72u
31 loss, -12u, total -84u
32 WIN, 60u, total -24u, wait for next trigger, stay at 2u base)
25 - 36 (trigger, play all black numbers in 3rd dozen, base 2u)
31 WIN, 60u, total 36u, back to base 1u and wait for next trigger.
Hope that's what you wanted to know!
Thanks
Good to know max was 12
Good luck
Noreilles Thanks for the explanation, the problem is that this requires a high bankroll
Quote from: PELUQ on Jan 05, 02:27 PM 2015
Noreilles Thanks for the explanation, the problem is that this requires a high bankroll
Well, my aggressive way does, but no one is stopping you from using a level progression of 1,2,3,4,5, which would lower the required bankroll to 540 units... still a lot, and it would require you to stay at higher levels longer to recoup your losses... but it takes money to make money unfortunately.
If you're right, it's not good to stay long in one level, and more if it is high, if you have more news about the system can inform us ?, thanks.
As promised, an update since I had 2 close losses...
24. -213u (2nd loss)
25. +108, went to 2u
26. -1092 (3rd loss), played a little TOO agressive: played 2 dozens at 12 units at the same time... loss both.
For a grand total of +1717, in 8 days with 3 losses (including an overinflated one).
I'm still in positive numbers, so I'll keep at it, just maybe now I'll limit my play at 1 dozen at a time when I'm at 12u...
Till my next report, stay lucky everyone!
Hello all
Just a quick update: I had 8 more winning session (for +729), a loss (- 345) and then 3 more wins, which brings the total so far after 38 session of +2271, in 13 days with 4 losses.
Till my next report, stay lucky everyone!
Quote from: Noreilles on Jan 11, 10:06 PM 2015
Hello all
Just a quick update: I had 8 more winning session (for +729), a loss (- 345) and then 3 more wins, which brings the total so far after 38 session of +2271, in 13 days with 4 losses.
Till my next report, stay lucky everyone!
Nice you're winning :) congratz!
Time for a new update.
Next session after my post started with a loss (-333), followed by 6 wins (+580), then a loss (-582), followed by 9 wins (+1026), then a 1st and hopefully a last: 3 losses back to back (-348, -210, -457 for a total of -1015), and now 5 wins for +436. So in these 25 sessions (which include 5 losses), I'm at +112. So grand total so far: +2383 in 23 days with 9 losses. So I'll probably give my final update in 2-3 weeks time (or before if it starts tanking) but so far, on average 100 units a day... a nice financial boost!
Till my next report, stay lucky everyone!
Me again... For the average, if you prefer, I'm at +2383 in 63 sessions, so average per session is just a bit over 37.8 units.
maybe i should start playing my own system again! ;D
congratz to your winnings!
Update time!
Hello all. Here are the final numbers for the month:
Played 17 session, had 2 losses, for a total of +952 units... I went to the last level a lot this time around (including the 2 losses, 9 times) which tends to make for higher winnings though.
This makes it a grand total for the month (+1 day in december) of +3335 in 80 sessions, including 11 losses.
Average win per session amounts to 41.6875 units.
Average win per day (which is meaningless cause the number of session per day varies but still) is 104.21875 units.
Next update will be at the end of the month of february so I can tell you if this month was a fluke or not.
As always, stay lucky everyone!
Tripleshooter for EC's
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Record the last five results into
R/B, E/O and H/L
RRBBR EOEOE HLLHH
Now bet the 3 EC opposites of those 5 with the "cycle of 5 progression"
For example using those above 5 results: first bet will be BOL then BEH then ROH then REL and finally BOL.
RRBBR EOEOE HLLHH =first track 5 results
RRRBR EEOEE HLHLL =L-3; L-4, W-1, W+0, L-1 -1 so up to 2u and bet opposites again...
BRRRB EOEOE LHLHL =W+1, W+3, W+5, W+11, L+9 +9 down to 1u and bet opposites again...
and so on.....
A.
PS.
A better way to record is simply like this:
REH ROL BEL BOH REH
REH REL ROH BEL REL
Hi atlantis, if the Triple Shooter idea is to track for 3 repeats of the same colour in the same dozen and then betting the remaining individual numbers, what about a Triple Shooter for Dozens tweak instead?
Regards
This method seems to work really well.
I have had success with it at the casino and what manual back testing I have done on my past numbers has also done very well.
I see you have made some impressive charts showing good results.
What I was wondering If you know on average how often a lose happens. ( were no winning number is hit in the 6 spins after the trigger).
Thanks for a great method
Atlantis
I commend you on the way you "cut to the chase" as they say. Your explanation is clear and unambiguous. I may have to give this a whirl in a day or so at Riverwind. If I do, I'll post on this thread.
Naturally, thanks to ignatus for starting the thread. He's like a blind pig in search of a truffle. Odds are, he'll find one!!
Sam
Hello to my fellow enthusiasts,
Noreilles is playing a different selection method than that proposed by the author.
Under the original rules a continuous and uninterrupted sequence of the same color appearing in any one of the three dozens, must produce a selection of 3 hits in the one dozen. That is the trigger - not 3 hits of one particular color in any random order in any particular dozen. The difference is significance . One is far more selective and very accurate in my testing whereas the other namley Noreilles, produces far too many bets.
I just wanted to clarify this point.
Cheers to all
Yes. The original rules are the color in one dozen cannot be seperated by another color.