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Title: DS Wakers
Post by: buffalowizard on Jan 02, 07:42 PM 2015
Simple method based on catching 2 waking double streets. For some reason, this works best charting the DS's in two columns reading left to right, left to right etc.

As soon as 4 unique DS's appear, wait for one of the missing 2 to come and then bet on those 2.

So say 1,2,2,3,4 appears. There's your 4 uniques. Now wait for 5 and 6. Next out are 4,1,2,5.
5 has appeared and so now that's your trigger to bet DS 5 and 6 for three spins. Progression is 1,1,2 stop.

On a loss, retrack and take the -4 loss. You'll pick up plenty of winners to claw that back! Here is a sample session. Cheers!

6   5
1   5
4   6 <wait for 2 and 3
2   6 <there's 2 so bet DS 2 and 3 for three spins
1   2 < hits DS 2 on the third spin. look back and see 5 and 3 are now qualifiers
1   1
5   2 <trigger on 5, bet 3 and 5 three times
3   2 <hits on second spin. look back and see 6 and 4 are qualifiers
2   4 < bet 4 and 6 three times
3   1
6   2 <hits on the third spin. 4 and 5 qualifiers
5   2 <trigger
4   5 <hits on second spin. 1 and 3 qualifiers
5   5
4   2
3   4 <trigger
4   1 <hits on third spin. 5 and 6 qualifiers
4   6 <trigger
2   1
1   5 <loss. 3 and 4 qualifiers
6   5
5   3 <trigger
2   3 <hits on 2nd spin. 1 and 4 qualifiers
6   5
3   1 <trigger
3   5
4   1 <hits on 3rd spin. 2 and 6 qualifiers
1   3
1   5
1   3
6   4 <trigger
3   1 < loss. 2 and 5 qualifiers
2   5 <trigger, win on 1st spin. 4 and 6 qualifiers
2   4 <trigger
2   4 <win on 2nd spin. 3 and 6 qualifiers
5   2
3   5 <trigger
4   3 <hits on 3rd spin

+8 profit
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 02, 08:44 PM 2015
This one looks good Buff :d
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Test: Celtic Casino American Wheel-
Friday, January 2,2015 @ 7:17pm CST USA

...6,14,21,35 (newest spin-value)

Unhit lines remaining: L7-12, L25-30

...36,20,3,8 (trigger)

Bet L7-12, L25-30 for up to three spins.  Stop on a win.

1.) 28(win)+120
==============================
Test: Celtic Casino European Wheel-
Friday, January 2,2015 @ 7:23pm CST USA

...23,9,3,23,4,21,29 (newest spin-value)

Unhit lines remaining: L31-36, L13-18

...18 (trigger)

Bet L13-18, L31-36 for up to 3 spins.  Stop on a win.

1.) 34(win)+120
==============================
Test: Tropicana Gold RNG Real Money European Wheel
"Roulette Crystal"-Friday, January 2,2015 @ 7:31pm CST USA

...12,4,17,7,26 (newest spin-value)

Unhit lines remaining: L19-24, L31-36

...25,16,8,22 (trigger)

Bet L19-24, L31-36 for up to three spins.  Stop on a win.

1.) 6(x)-20               2.) 36(win)+40
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+20
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: agesta on Jan 03, 03:24 AM 2015
Hi Buff!
Thank you for this system!
I have played it your way and it works very well.
I have tested it by playing 3ds
I used your rules and playing this way also works very well.
I played +1/-1
I will test both way further!!!

agesta
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: buffalowizard on Jan 03, 04:18 AM 2015
Good results guys I'm glad working for you.

I'll post more test results here soon too
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: buffalowizard on Jan 03, 07:18 AM 2015
Just another quick session without all the annotations this time. I never really went in for betting sleepers but this thing seems to pick up winners within that time frame very nicely. Obviously progressions are up to you and you might want to be more aggressive after a loss, but at the moment I'm going mildly with it.

4   5
3   4
4   5
6   6
5   4
2   5 win +2
1   4
5   6
2   4
4   3 loss -2
2   1
1   4 win 0
2   2
1   6
6   2 win +2
1   2
6   3
1   2
3   5 win +4
2   5 win +5
1   3
2   6
5   4 win +6
4   6
3   1 win +8
2   6
1   2 win +10
4   5 win +12
5   2
5   6
1   6 win +13
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: hexfex82 on Jan 03, 06:32 PM 2015
Hello Buff,

I played now at Dublinbet on both Live Tables at the same time your "idea"

from 22â,¬ to 82â,¬ using 1-1-2 and at on a loss of them I started the at the next trigger with 2-2-4. Never lost the second.

Very good so far. Keep up...

P.S. When a Dealer change I restart tracking  :xd:
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: buffalowizard on Jan 04, 03:20 AM 2015
Sounds good HexFex! Looks like this one still has some legs
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: ewarwoowar on Jan 04, 06:08 AM 2015
i think this has got some merit in it buffalowizard.
I'm just trying to work out a good exit point with regards to a progression. I know you said 1 1 2 and then quit, but I saw lots of hits on the 4th spin.
testing on dublinbet is always hard because of the ridiculous spread on the table limit, but I've been looking at 5,5,7.5, 12, 17, 26.
I'd take a hit on this and then double next time round.
just had a live session now and it went like this:-

3 5 1 2 6 4 4 4 4 5T 4 1 6 6 1 5W 2T 3W 6T 1 2 4W 2 6 5T 4 5W 4 4 5 5 1T 2 1W 3T 1 6W 5T 1 1 5W 6 2T 4W 3T5 4 1W 3 5 6T 2W 2 2 2 3 1T 2 1W 4T 5W 4 1 1 3T 3W 1 5 6T 4 1 3 2W 4 4 4 5T 3 5W 3 2 1T 2 6W 1 1 1 2 5T 4W
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: buffalowizard on Jan 04, 06:26 AM 2015
Hey ewar,

Thanks for looking at the method and I'm glad you found a tweak to suit you.

That's a pretty standard looking session, no losses with your progression, and 2 with my original but still gives approx +15 units.

Cheers!
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 04, 06:27 AM 2015
*I think this is good flat-betting, Buff.
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Test: Dublinbet European Wheel #1-
Sunday, January 4,2015 @ 4:47am CST USA

...26,17,11,2,8 (qualifier)

Unhit Lines remaining: L19-24, L31-36

...33 (trigger)

Bet L19-24, L31-36:    1.) 3(x)-60

2.) 6(x)-60               3.) 1(x)-60
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-180
==============================
Test: Celtic Casino American Wheel-
Sunday, January 4,2015 @ 4:53am CST USA

...22,19,28,20,16,16,6 (qualifier)

Unhit Lines remaining: L7-12, L31-36

...26,28,6,26,23,1,6,14,21,32 (trigger)

Bet L7-12, L31-36:    1.) 7(win)+120
==============================
Test: Dublinbet European Wheel #1-
Sunday, January 4,2015 @ 5:06am CST USA

...36,11,27,35,28,26,30,33,32,0,32,35,33,3 (qualifier)

Unhit lines: L13-18, L19-24

...18 (trigger)

Bet L13-18, L19-24:    1.) 23(win)+120
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: buffalowizard on Jan 04, 06:40 AM 2015
Cheers for continued testing Proof - do you mean flat betting 3 times then stop and retrack ?

The thing I like about this is that there arent many consecutive losses around, meaning you can always play around with some kind of recovery straight after

BW
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 04, 06:43 AM 2015
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jan 04, 06:40 AM 2015
Cheers for continued testing Proof - do you mean flat betting 3 times then stop and retrack ?

Correct

"...there arent many consecutive losses around"-BW

That said I could see why a progression would be appealing.
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: ewarwoowar on Jan 04, 08:30 AM 2015
another session taken from dublinbet actuals:-

6 2 1 4 6 1 3T 6 4 3W 1 3 2T 6 2W 3 4T 6 2 3 4W 1T 3 2 2 1W 5T 3 3 3 6W 6 3 4T 4W 6 2T 3 4 5 3 4 5 3 3 2W 3 3 1T 4 6W 3 6 2T 1 6 5W 5 4T 4W 6 3T 5 3W 1T 6 2W 4T 6 4W 2 3T 1 5W 6T 6W 4T 2W 4 3T 4 3W 6 4 2 1T 1W 4 5T 4 4 3W 2T 5 2W 2 5 5 3 3 3 5 5 3 3 1T 6W 5 2T 3 6 1 4W 4 3 2T 2W 6T 5W 6 4T 1W 4 1 5 3T 6 5 4 4 1 1 5 1 2W.

some long runs without a win there but looking at the registry it looks like this:-

LLWLWLLLWLLLWLLLWWLLLLLLLLWLWLLWWLWLWLWLWWWLWWLLWLWWLLLWWWWLLLLLLLLW.

that's 42 losses and 26 wins.

what we're really doing here is betting dozens and so the numbers coming back (so far) are better than average (2to1)

I know many people are against progressions and as proof has pointed out, this may well flat bet - certainly the session above would have stood up to it, but I cant help but think that with a safe dozens progression here this would be really good.

using the LW registry as above and looking at the progression outlined by Atlantis in this thread might be one answer.

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=12085.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=12085.0)

meanwhile, i'll keep testing.

cheers.
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: buffalowizard on Jan 04, 08:38 AM 2015
Hi ewar

Yes I thought along the same lines that a progression works here but not one that rises with no limit.

I was testing 112 stop because the wins seemed to outweigh it. You could also finish any bad session knowing that you'll only lose 4 at a time, so perhaps stop if you reach 3 losses for instance.

(by loss, I mean 3 losses in a row after the trigger)

As another poster said, a recovery afterwards of 224 could work
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: buffalowizard on Jan 04, 08:42 AM 2015
The session you posted by the way ewar ends at +6 with using the 112 stop, 112 method.

I count that as a very tough session with 3 proper losses in a row, perhaps making increasing bets not such a good idea.
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: ewarwoowar on Jan 04, 08:46 AM 2015
hi BW, yes it was a tough session, but the selection method is as good as any that I've seen. 68 spins would be a good hour at the table.
plus 6 units an hour would be ok for me though!  ;D

cheers.
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: ewarwoowar on Jan 04, 08:47 AM 2015
also, I think i'll start looking at it with the LW registry in mind.
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: biagle on Jan 04, 11:23 AM 2015
sorry for offtopic, but i split wheel to 6 sectors and played on the wheel with buff idea.
+94units.

prog: 1 1 2; 2 2 4

numbers:
20       
      36 
      23 
      32 
22       
15       
      34 
      21 
8       
      12 
22       
      21 
28       
      19 
11       
20       
24       
      34 
      21 
8       
20       
6       
      18 
      21 
       7 
       9 
15       
-- -- -- 
       7 
      25 
15       
11       
      27 
29       
      18 
       9 
      21 
       7 
       3 
      23 
      30 
      25 
-- -- -- 
13       
22       
4       
4       
2       
8       
2       
35       
       5 
24       
    0     
       3 
      14 
22       
28       
-- -- -- 
      21 
      18 
24       
10       
31       
      18 
33       
-- -- -- 
20       
      25 
       9 
28       
      34 
4       
      32 
      19 
      30 
    0     Bonus: dreifache Auszahlung
      14 
      16 
    0     
      18 
    0     
      12 
      16 
       7
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: buffalowizard on Jan 04, 12:29 PM 2015
Nice work Biagle, any set of 6 will do if course and in your case you'll get more profit betting individual numbers. Long may it continue!
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: buffalowizard on Jan 04, 01:39 PM 2015
COUPS: "TABLE 3" FROM 01.04.2015

Tough session this using 112 stop, 112 stop etc. Shows it isn't infallible but also that it never plunges too deep.
Finishes -5.
Will do more testing, but still way up overall. BW
                       
20 - 4                 
17 - 3   
33 - 6   
       5 - 1
24 - 4
       25 - 5 - trigger
6 - 1   
15 - 3    
20 - 4    loss - 4
15 - 3   
       23 - 4
35 - 6 trigger
       30 - 5
       19 - 4
       18 - 3 loss -8
31 - 6       
       12 - 2 trigger
33 - 6       
20 - 4   
       23 - 4 loss -12
8 - 2       
       25 - 5 trigger
29 - 5        win -10
--   --   --
10 - 2       
       16 - 3 trigger
       30 - 5
       30 - 5
       5 - 1 win -8
       21 - 4 trigger
       32 - 6 win -6
11 - 2        trigger
13 - 3        win -4
       5 - 1 trigger
28 - 5        win -2
       9 - 2
--   --   --
6 - 1       
       25 - 5
       19 - 4 trigger
       5 - 1
       32 - 6 win -1
6 - 1        
28 - 5       
26 - 5   
       25 - 5
       34 - 6
6 - 1       
       5 - 1
--   --   --
28 - 5       
       1 - 1
       36 - 6
       19 - 4
15 - 3        trigger
33 - 6   
       5 - 1
6 - 1        loss -5
22 - 4    
6 - 1   
       3 - 1
       36 - 6
28 - 5        trigger
       32 - 6
20 - 4       
       16 - 3 loss -9
8 - 2        trigger
--   --   --
15 - 3       
       27 - 5
10 - 2        win -7
35 - 6    trigger
       16 - 3
       9 - 2
       21 - 4 loss -11
   0   
       12 - 2
       25 - 5 trigger
       34 - 6
29 - 5        win -10
8 - 2   
29 - 5    
       7 - 2
13 - 3 trigger
       12 - 2
--   --   --
       14 - 3 -9
6 - 2       
       7 - 2
       23 - 4 trigger
       5 - 1 win -7
29 - 5 trigger
2 - 1   
       7 - 2
       27 - 5 win -5
24 - 4       
29 - 5   
       34 - 6 trigger
       21 - 4
       5 - 1
       27 - 5 loss -9
       30 - 5
20 - 4
--   --   --
33 - 6   
       27 - 5
31 - 6       
       34 - 6
29 - 5       
       19 - 4
26 - 5       
       23 - 4
       9 - 2 trigger
6 - 1       
--   --   --
       9 - 2 win -8
       21 - 4
       19 - 4
20 - 4       
       23 - 4
4 - 1       
       14 - 3 trigger
       36 - 6 win -6
29 - 5    trigger   
22 - 4       
       27 - 5 win -5
Title: Re: DS Wakers
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 04, 02:30 PM 2015
If more testing proves good maybe an aggressive negative progression can be used