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Title: Calle 65432
Post by: Kattila on Jan 06, 01:47 PM 2015
All in the excel file (like always).  :P
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: Rewster88 on Jan 06, 02:22 PM 2015
Sorry dont know what you are doing.
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: biagle on Jan 06, 02:27 PM 2015
first try +42, nice
but one question how long you play this and how much was bigest draw down?

10   10   1         
13   13   2         
11   10            
17   16   3         
24   22   4         
30   28   5         
27   25   6   6      
34   34   l1   5      
30   28   w8         
3   1   1         
8   7   2         
22   22   3         
14   13   4         
25   25   5         
19   19   6   6      
20   19   w6         
22   22   1         
28   28   2         
11   10   3         
25   25   4         
1   1   5         
14   13   6   6      
21   19      5      
10   10   w8         
34   34   1         
4   4   2         
35   34            
1   1   3         
26   25   4         
10   10   5         
34   34            
28   28   6   6      
12      w6         
25   25   1         
12   10   2         
32   31   3         
8   7   4         
19   19   5         
15   13   6   6      
11      w6         
4   4   1         
20   19   2         
14   13   3         
33   31   4         
27   25   5         
33   31            
9   7   6   6      
35         5      
21   19   w8         
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: buffalowizard on Jan 06, 03:07 PM 2015
I don't get it either - unfortunately some of us require actual instructions on how to play a method.
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: Kattila on Jan 06, 06:13 PM 2015
This is the basic:

Number   Street   Wait until hit 6 different streets                  
                        
1   1   1                  
36   34   2                  
14   13   3                  
36   34                     
7   7   4                  
25   25   5                  
19   19   6   bet this 6 streets      now use Level 1 progression from the excel file         
2   1   w   retrack               
3   1   1                  
7   7   2                  
25   25   3                  
10   10   4                  
7   7                     
4   4   5                  
36   34   6   bet this 6 streets               
19   19   l1   bet 5 streets ( see  position 5,4,3,2,1…..so bet streets 4,10,25,7,1)               
3   1   w   retrack               
16   16   1                  
22   22   2                  
2   1   3                  
12   10   4                  
21   19   5                  
34   34   6   bet this 6 streets               
17   16   w   retrack               
12   10   1                  
27   25   2                  
31   31   3                  
35   34   4                  
0   0                     
10   10                     
35   34                     
3   1   5                  
33   31                     
6   4   6   bet this 6 streets               
12   10   w   retrack               
11   10   1                  
35   34   2                  
17   16   3                  
29   28   4                  
2   1   5                  
22   22   6   bet this 6 streets               
12   10   w   retrack               
20   19   1                  
13   13   2                  
32   31   3                  
7   7   4                  
13   13                     
23   22   5                  
20   19                     
2   1   6   bet this 6 streets               
22   22   w    retrack               
5   4   1                  
9   7   2                  
33   31   3                  
6   4                     
25   25   4                  
3   1   5                  
22   22   6   bet this 6 streets               
16   16   l1   bet the 5 streets ( 1,25,31,7,4)               
15   13   l2   bet  the 4 streets ( 25,31,7,4)               
28   28   l3   bet the 3 streets ( 31,7,4)               
3   1   l4   bet the 2 streets ( 7,4)               
10   10   l5 -50   Lost level  1, now bet level 2 , bet the last 6 streets               
8   7   l1   bet last 5 streets               
3   1   w   retrack               
24   22   1                  
28   28   2                  
28   28                     
1   1   3                  
16   16   4                  
3   1                     
32   31   5                  
34   34   6   bet this 6 streets      level 2         
19   19   l1   bet  streets 31, 16,1,28,22               
9   7   l2   bet streets 16,1,28,22               
22   22   w    retrack   here with two wins with level 2 recovered the lose            
20   19   1                  
0   0                     
8   7   2                  
28   28   3                  
24   22   4                  
17   16   5                  
19   19                     
0   0                     
30   28                     
20   19                     
10   10   6   bet this 6 streets               
25   25   l1   bet streets 16,22,28,7,19               
2   1   l2   bet 22,28,7,19               
36   34   l3   bet 28,7,19               
23   22   l4   bet 7,19               
8   7   w    retrack               
5   4   1                  
8   7   2                  
22   22   3                  
35   34   4                  
10   10   5                  
9   7                     
31   31   6   bet that 6 streets               
19   19   l1   bet 10,34,22,7,4               
15   13   l2   bet 34,22,7,4               
20   19   l3   bet 22,7,4               
13   13   l4   bet 7, 4               
6   4   w    retrack               
21   19   1                  
6   4   2                  
24   22   3                  
5   4                     
3   1   4                  
2   1                     
14   13   5                  
30   28   6   bet that 6 streets               
33   31   l1   bet 13,1,22,4,19               
0   0   l2   bet 1,22,4,19               
35   34   l3   bet 22,4,19               
21   19   w    retrack               


After lost level 1 ( -50 units) you have 3 different options to recover that lose (see Excel) and  if lost second level take the lose.  Your choise when to reset to level 1 , after one win with level 2 , or after 2 wins with level 2.     Can use any  from that 3 options for level 2, so if you go for one win use one/any from that  3 options for level 2,  and if go for 2 wins with level 2  can use same option twice or any combination of 2 from that 3 options for level 2.
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: soggett on Jan 07, 02:06 AM 2015
As always Kattila i like your ideas  :thumbsup:


quick test, 148 spins ended +54, got 2 times to lvl 2

so far so good,  I like it  ^-^
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: JimmieB on Jan 07, 03:52 AM 2015
Hi Kattila,

Thanks for your system on sheet (Hoja) 1, which I fully understand, however, I'm having some difficulty getting my head around the system on sheet 2, could you provided a bit more info, thanks.

Jim
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: biagle on Jan 07, 04:02 AM 2015
Quote from: JimmieB on Jan 07, 03:52 AM 2015
Hi Kattila,

Thanks for your system on sheet (Hoja) 1, which I fully understand, however, I'm having some difficulty getting my head around the system on sheet 2, could you provided a bit more info, thanks.

Jim

choose 4 random HOT streets bet them until lose, then bet remaining 8 streets until lose
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: JimmieB on Jan 07, 04:07 AM 2015
Thanks Biagle :thumbsup: very simple!!
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: biagle on Jan 07, 04:10 AM 2015
sorry, no

19   19,25,31,28               
31   w  8         the 8   bet against   19,25,31,28
1         w 4         
16         w 4         


chose 4 random hot streets if hit bet against them until lose
look in excel again, idea is same 4/8 streets
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: JimmieB on Jan 07, 04:29 AM 2015
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: Kattila on Jan 07, 04:34 AM 2015
Quote from: JimmieB on Jan 07, 03:52 AM 2015
Hi Kattila,

Thanks for your system on sheet (Hoja) 1, which I fully understand, however, I'm having some difficulty getting my head around the system on sheet 2, could you provided a bit more info, thanks.

Jim


Hi  JimmieB,
About that second system :
Bet the last/updated 4  hot streets for a max. 3 spins, win or lose (L3) bet the opposite 8 streets until hit a few wins ( 3  or 4  or five) but  stop at L2 , if hit L1  bet one more time to recover this L (but at L2 stop) and optional is (after recover L1) to go for one or two wins .   Sometimes can use the last 6 hot streets and flat bet them until get one win (+6) and if hit 3 (or 4 ) consecutive Ls  stop ( stop at  LLL, or at LLWLL,   LLWLLWL).
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: soggett on Jan 08, 12:43 PM 2015
another test, +106 units in 263 spins

it busted the second lvl of the progression on me so I tweaked it a bit - this time i got to lvl 2 only 2 times during those 263 spins

will keep testing to see how it goes but so far I really like it, its easy, simple and doesn't require much BR - if it holds up it will be awesome
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: JimmieB on Jan 08, 05:00 PM 2015
Hi Sogget,

Would be interested in your tweak, if further testing proves good...

Regards
Jim
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: Kattila on Jan 08, 07:15 PM 2015
Of course it busted the second level  as expected, no system ever will escape from hell sessions.  That is why i posted more than one options to Try to recover level 1 and put us in positive territory, don t use always the same option for level 2, switch , jump to other one(s) and if you won something get out or use another system, don t be static ........i know anyway finally no matter what trick we use random will catch us , but my personal opinion is this one... better be a moving target and not a static one.....
And Sogget , any tweak is welcome. :thumbsup:

cheers
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: Kattila on Jan 08, 07:32 PM 2015
Here one repeaters idea in test .  I  am not a fan of this multi level and negative progression( i play real most possitive progressions / different bet selection) but i like to test new ideas .
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: soggett on Jan 11, 08:45 AM 2015
Ok, as promised

at spin 999 the current BR is +457 units

the graph shows the BR going up or down after each game, I did not do it spin by spin value (can if anyone needs it)

got only 5 times to lvl 2 - recuped easily


I am testing a sheet of about 4000 spins so when i go through all of them Ill give an update, then Ill know if it holds up, am doing all by hand so it will take some time ^-^

so far it looks very promising
Title: Re: Calle 65432
Post by: soggett on Jan 17, 01:55 AM 2015
Ok, test is done

total after 3981 spins the BR is 1159 which is not bad at all

I was using the first recovery option that is after loss with betting 6,5,4,3,2 streets go to bet 6,5,4,3 streets

out of 583 games played, got 29 times to lvl 2, 3 times it busted

flattbetting ends +313 units

the hit rate seems quite good

now the tweak:

what I did was to discard sets of 6 different streets in only 6 spins and start tracking all over - in my first tests I noticed that every time I went to lvl 2 it was because of this

so if I get 1,2,3,4,5,6 I scratch and start over. Also 1,2,3,0,4,5,6 scratch and star over - I ignore zero while tracking

plus If lvl 1 lost and we retrack the last 6 streets - if they are also in just 6 spins I dismiss and start from scratch

Kattila says he doesn't see the difference in his test so it may be just my spin sample that is affected by this, test for yourself and see

Thoughts are as always welcome and appreciated


also, we need to try other recovery options too to see how they do, but lvl 1 is very good