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Title: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: denzie on Jan 26, 11:56 AM 2015
Maybe im just Lucky but again i spend hours writing down numbers and then when i go work i look how all my favorite systems do with these real numbers.

These last days i put all the following dozen in yellow fluo so i see what they do. And again something catches my eye ..... lets say nr 2come(first dozen) and then nr 11come(again first dozen) .... then i bet 1 unit on the first dozen. if i have i start again waiting for 2 following dozen(reset) . if not i wait also for 2 following dozen en then bet on the third time for 2 units......i use the barracuda betting here and i not stop +1 unit till im in profit. Now this is what i see......after 3000 spins the maximum i need the go was 7 units.

Im not saying it gonna work but im bit surprised about it. Cuz 1-2-3-4-5-6-7(28units is the highest i invest in 3000spins)

At first i just put the barracuda on the following dozen non stop and it works . But need a big bankroll and sometimes its hard to fight back to profit. Thats why i start looking for a twist.

Well i wil see what the future shows me  :)
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: denzie on Jan 26, 12:12 PM 2015
btw waiting for the 4th time not work. it take way to long and it fails. 3th only
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: agesta on Jan 27, 12:57 AM 2015
Hi!
Just tested this for 50 bets, just flatbetting, w/l ratio loocks like this.
LLWLWL
LLLLWW
LWLWLL
WWLWWW
WLLLLW
LWWLLW
LLWLLW
WLLWLW
LW
28 L
22 W
=+15 units
agesta :)
=
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: denzie on Jan 27, 04:27 AM 2015
Happy to see this. So 4x is the max u have LLLL . Looks good but I'll keep testing this. With a daily bankroll and the right betting method this should be a winner. Btw im not looking for a foolproof,waterproof,bulletproof system.

For me the "holy grail" is playing 7 sessions and win minimum 5. That means profit. That means easy life........
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: agesta on Jan 27, 11:03 AM 2015
Hi!
100 more bets played flat bet. w/l
llllwllllw
:llwllwl
lwwlwwllll
wl:wlwwl
lwlwllllww
wl:llwll
lwlwllwlll
lwlllllllw
wlwlllwwll
::lwll

43 w
57 l
=+24 units
7 losses in the row at most between bet 73-79

agesta
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: denzie on Jan 27, 03:06 PM 2015
Hmmm still looks pretty good to me . Today I've got another 1000real nrs, so i gonna check tomorrow how uuuuuum "The Denzie System" hold up ^^ . But you flatbetting. Did you try barracuda or carsh ? But of course with flatbetting it's much safer.....i let you know how the further testing ends. But i got a good feeling abt it  :love:
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: denzie on Jan 27, 03:38 PM 2015
Uhm but 100 bets? How much time did that session take?
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: agesta on Jan 28, 02:09 AM 2015
I have not used any sort of progression for this.
Just fast play for testing.

agesta
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: RFMAXX on Jan 28, 02:50 AM 2015
nice one! still testing.

tweak 1: i always test how table layout systems perform with wheel layout rules.
any difference with your numbers?

tweak 2:
when doz 1 has 2 hits after another, i bet dozen 3 one time.
when doz 3 has 2 hits after another, i bet dozen 1 one time.
when doz 2 has 2 hits after another, i stay at dozen 2 one time.
any difference with your numbers?
same lw string?

max
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: denzie on Jan 28, 03:23 AM 2015
Maxx i gonna test your tweak today on the same nrs i used before and see what's best. Bit curious cuz dozen loves to chop . I let you know today 😉
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 28, 04:53 AM 2015
Nice one Maxx  :thumbsup: (tweak 2)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Test: RFMAXX's Dozen System @ Tropicana Gold RNG Real Money
"Roulette Crystal"-Wednesday, January 28,2015 @ 3:34am CST USA

...4,10 (trigger)

Bet third dozen once:       1.) 14(x)-5

...35,19,16 (trigger)

Bet second dozen once:    2.) 5(x)-5

...9 (trigger)

Bet third dozen once:       3.) 26(win)+10

...0,0,18,31,32 (trigger)

Bet first dozen once:        4.) 22(x)-5

...23 (trigger)

Bet second dozen once:    5.) 7(x)-5

...18,13 (trigger)

Bet second dozen once:    6.) 8(x)-5

...21,22 (trigger)

Bet second dozen once:    7.) 19(win)+10

...3,16,15 (trigger)

Bet second dozen once:    8.) 29(x)-5

...10,6 (trigger)

Bet third dozen once:       9.) 35(win)+10

...8,4 (trigger)

Bet third dozen once:      10.) 32(win)+10

....23,27,29 (trigger)

Bet first dozen once:       11.) 12(win)+10
---------------------------------------------------
+20
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: denzie on Jan 28, 05:07 AM 2015
I just finished  3800nrs.... and your tweak didn't do very good. Where my tweak goes max 7x ....yours go easily x10 and more. But that don't prove nothing.  Still need more testing for sure
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: RFMAXX on Jan 28, 05:46 AM 2015
third tweak: wheel layout dozen

example: nr. 32,19 hit
play "dozen" 3 = 12 numbers  from 14-26

31,9 hit
play "dozen" 1 = 12 numbers from 32-13

8,10 hit
stay at "dozen" 2 = 12 numbers from 36-20

fourth tweak:

same as tweak 3 but: 30,33 hit
look at the last number 33. this is in this dozen the second ds
so we bet dozen" 1 = 12 numbers from 32-13

if the last number was 30, this is the first ds in dozen 2
so bet dozen 3 = 12 numbers  from 14-26

i will do a lot of testing the next couple days  :)

Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 28, 05:57 AM 2015
Perhaps RFMAXX's tweak 2 on columns?
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: RFMAXX on Jan 28, 06:10 AM 2015
and last one: performs best so far
table layout

when doz 1 has 2 hits after another, i bet dozen 3 one time.
when doz 3 has 2 hits after another, i bet dozen 1 one time.
when dozen 2 hits 2 times i look in which ds the last number is.

nr. 19 hits: i would play dozen 3
if last numbers was 13 i would play dozen 1

Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: atlantis on Jan 28, 10:11 AM 2015
Quote from: denzie on Jan 27, 03:06 PM 2015
Hmmm still looks pretty good to me . Today I've got another 1000real nrs, so i gonna check tomorrow how uuuuuum "The Denzie System" hold up ^^ . But you flatbetting. Did you try barracuda or carsh ? But of course with flatbetting it's much safer.....i let you know how the further testing ends. But i got a good feeling abt it  :love:

Hi denzie,
I wonder if we can factor in the columns as well. same thing?
Also, the GLAT progression is good for single dozen betting.
I get similar result to agesta - so seems a good idea. :)

A.
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: denzie on Jan 28, 12:14 PM 2015
Mm mm to be honest...didn't look at the colums. But i will check tomorrow.  And the GLAT progression i don't know.  Gonna try find it here or u can give me quick update; )
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 28, 01:08 PM 2015
So when a dozen repeats bet it one time? I think ignatus had one similar
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: atlantis on Jan 28, 01:58 PM 2015
Hi Denzie,

Just tried a fast session test in RX with real numbers. 205 spins betting for doz and col qualifiers - flatbet.
80 bets.... +13u.
:)
A.
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 28, 07:51 PM 2015
Flatbet?
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: denzie on Jan 29, 01:16 AM 2015
@Atlantis .... can't find the GLAT progression. ...can u give me link or quick update about it?
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: denzie on Jan 29, 04:24 AM 2015
Ok nevermind....found it. But i prefer the barracuda. Btw i just start play all 3 dozen with barracuda lol...but i stop at 5th turn in the progression and back to 1....this way it not get out of control. Seems the work also so far....will see
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: bleep24 on Jan 29, 05:14 AM 2015
,
On my checking 5 series of live spins of about 60 spins each both methods tanked.  One would have lost massively having 10 losses in a row, then 1 win then another 4 losses and so it went on.  Of the other four series would have made either a small loss, broke even or made a small profit so if anyone is winning with this it is down to pure luck.  In theory it should be wins/losses about 50/50 but we all know that over small samples it will not always even out.  Perhaps a bit of trial with different progressions will help.
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: atlantis on Jan 29, 05:37 AM 2015
Quote from: denzie on Jan 29, 04:24 AM 2015
Ok nevermind....found it. But i prefer the barracuda. Btw i just start play all 3 dozen with barracuda lol...but i stop at 5th turn in the progression and back to 1....this way it not get out of control. Seems the work also so far....will see

I see you found the GLAT.

@RouletteGhost: The result was flatbetting on a doz and/or col to repeat a third time as in the original way denzie posted.

Whether to play doz only... I dunno?

I will try a session using GLAT progression.

A.

UPDATE: Result of a real number test using GLAT progression on doz only = -21 over 300 spins.
Title: Re: Bet the dozen only on the third time
Post by: denzie on Jan 29, 06:26 AM 2015
I don't know about flatbetting but i use "the barracuda" and with today it covers over 4500nrs and still didn't tank.

So far it still works for me cuz i not stop +1 till i have a new high. But today it takes me to 14 units on the progression ladder wich is still no prob for me.