Has anybody still contact to JohnLegend?
I miss him on this forum.
I know that he had some disputes with some other members and therefore stopped to contribute here.
Does anybody know how he is doing? In the old days he was one of the guys who managed to constantly win with different systems.
I would be interested if he had continoued his streak above math expectations or if he finally busted too.
Info appreciated.
Cheers
I see three options.
1. He is playing and make a living.
2. All hes ideas fail him and he stop playing roulette.
3. He move to other forums with less critical members.
I vote for option 2.
Cheers
Some of his ideas were quite good notwithstanding criticisms from other
members. I vote for 1.
I know that he had some disputes with some other members and therefore stopped to contribute here.
Hello
I am one of those who argued with John. I also paid to have his Pattern Breaker coded into a bot and tested for a bunch of spins. It failed just as expected. I also tried it with real money and it began failing and I quit. By the way, it is so slow a person might not live long enough to test it properly by hand.
That said, I have forgiven John for his bloviations, accusations and recriminations. I, too, wish he would let us hear from him. I actually like the guy and would love to have him posting his new system.
TwoCat
1. He is playing and make a living (if he hasn't retired)
But not from anything he posted here, that was only posted to waste the
"forum freaks" time.....
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I think some of you forget he used a second account to pretend he made over $70000 with his strategy. Why would someone do this? The guy is no different to ceh. He had nothing that worked and just wanted attention and people testing his ideas for him. Nothing he gave was new or useful.
Quote1. He is playing and make a living (if he hasn't retired)
But not from anything he posted here, that was only posted to waste the
"forum freaks" time.....
LOL, it was me who setup a casino account at his favourite casino, his choice, I monitored the account daily, he LOST 2 £200 banks (£400) then vanished, he admitted to me he failed, I even gave him what was left in the account, I had full power of the account he just used it, he sent me HIS money via moneybookers, he begged me for the £20 something that was left as he needed to pay bills. And he said he would make me a millionaire boohoo.
He couldn't see the woods for the trees, he believed so much in his theory that he put everything into it and then went banzai when it started to fall apart, the bet history file was laughable to put it mildly.
JohnLegend = EpicFail
Quote from: superman on Mar 13, 05:17 PM 2015
LOL, it was me who setup a casino account at his favourite casino, his choice, I monitored the account daily, he LOST 2 £200 banks (£400) then vanished, he admitted to me he failed, I even gave him what was left in the account, I had full power of the account he just used it, he sent me HIS money via moneybookers, he begged me for the £20 something that was left as he needed to pay bills. And he said he would make me a millionaire boohoo.
He couldn't see the woods for the trees, he believed so much in his theory that he put everything into it and then went banzai when it started to fall apart, the bet history file was laughable to put it mildly.
JohnLegend = EpicFail
I believe he was ONLY here to waste ppls time, but that doesn't he didn't have something when he played
properly IMHO
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I couldn't help but think there was some money motive with John Legend. It is
hard to think he would spend so much time with trickery simply because he could.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 13, 05:52 PM 2015
I couldn't help but think there was some money motive with John Legend. It is
hard to think he would spend so much time with trickery simply because he could.
If he was after money why play the long term plan ?
Giving whatever future date that he did, (I cannot remember the exact date) gave him more & more time
to drop some more breadcrumbs & waste MORE of the members who were following him's time....
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Maybe he was FALKOR hehehhehehe
I note that at the time when JL was posting his systems the vast majority of members were following his ideas;
A simple look at the no. of pages of various posts demonstrate this......; I don't think all these members
were naive or wrong at the time; May be JL may have found his hg and decided to keep it for himself for his
his own reasons......who knows??
His ideas were wrong from the start. He wanted both attention and for people to test his ideas for him. There are a few freaks that keep doing this under different names and many members still believe the rubbish, never learning anything. He had nothing. No credible person needs to use fake names to pretend his system won lots, or beg over £20. I'm not sure how people can be so naive.
@ Steve - Thanks; I see what u mean. A bit similar character to GreatGrampa / Priyanka etc.....
Quote from: Chris555p on Mar 14, 06:03 AM 2015
@ Steve - Thanks; I see what u mean. A bit similar character to GreatGrampa / Priyanka etc.....
Yeah Gampa/Pryanka , a tear jerker sanctioned by the forum`s administration and selected mods.
The concocted murder of poster " RALPH" followed not too much later on .
Quote from: Tamino on Mar 14, 02:58 PM 2015
Yeah Gampa/Pryanka , a tear jerker sanctioned by the forum`s administration and selected mods.
The concocted murder of poster " RALPH" followed not too much later on .
I hope it's true that the murder of Ralph was just a ploy. Even though it's a dastardly thing to do!
At best it would mean that Ralph wasn't who he said he was and so he couldn't be murdered after all.
But what kind of person does this kind of thing to fellow posters.
I have too much invested in this forum to have to endure being jerked around like that.
Wtf?
I do not know much about John, but I know that he is a big liar, to put it mildly, he is not telling the truth..
I have a "nose" for these things.
I never believed the Ralph scenario. How could some relative find a password and username for a forum to announce his death. Ridiculous
It worries me people dont see it.
On John Legend, I think Neil (Superman) got him perfect.
But hey....Neil isn't one of the people I worry about
I liked GG, even with his foibles (the foible being Priyanka). He was a nice guy
Quote from: speed on Mar 14, 07:10 PM 2015
I do not know much about John, but I know that he is a big liar, to put it mildly, he is not telling the truth..
Hmmm... he was only lying to himself really. I don't categorize him under scammer, or someone trying to dupe people for gain.
it was a dangerous mixture of attention seeking and lack of respect (underestimating) for clever people.
I know. I'm so naïve.
I grew up in an orphanage where lying or any kind of dishonorable behavior was met with immediate and memorable negative consequences. It would be classified as child abuse in today's world. Because of that, it's difficult for me to be suspicious of everything everybody says and does. Don't they know a matron will whollup them for dishonesty?
I do understand being suspicious of business people when they have something to be gained but what does someone have to gain from reporting that Ralph had been murdered?
If JL was Ralph, I like that part of JL's personality!
GLC
Quote from: Turner on Mar 14, 08:09 PM 2015
I have a "nose" for these things.
I never believed the Ralph scenario. How could some relative find a password and username for a forum to announce his death. Ridiculous
It worries me people dont see it.
On John Legend, I think Neil (Superman) got him perfect.
But hey....Neil isn't one of the people I worry about
I liked GG, even with his foibles (the foible being Priyanka). He was a nice guy
There were some fun times at GG, no doubt. BEFORE things got crazy, lots of good "ideas" regarding roulette, quite a few smart guys there (imo).
Ken
"What we got here--is a failure to c-mmunicate."
GG=Great Grandpa
GG=Gambler's Glen
Sam
ooops, my mistake, I read too fast.
I meant gamblers glen.....nobody else was referring to it (lol), sorry.
Ken
Hello again 2Cat, Turner, GLC, MrJ and other awesome forum members, too many to name!
Havent posted in awhile and only check the forum form time to time, I like randomness : )
Interesting topic.
I think JL was winning with his way of playing for a while. Once the casino account challenge started he lost and also lost his confidence. JL also played on a casino account I had but unfortunately he lost and did not hear back form him.
You can only win for so long with one method is my conclusion. JL might have been right about hit and run though but with a twist. Similar to how Mr J plays, stick with a method until it starts losing (a certain percentage) never play it again and select another method.....
Every method would have to be played as ProofReader tests methods or close to it.
At the moment this is the best strategy I can deduce from 3 years in the game.
Many opinions about JL!
So most of you think that he finally faild with his systems. As many forum members expected...
Once he announced to start a tour through european casinos to make the big money.
Does anyone know if he actually was an that tour? Some of you appeared to be quite close with him. Did anyone meet him on that tour?
I personlly don't think that he had any negative intentions on this forum. I was alway fascinated how deep his beliefs about that HIT and RUN approach and his long term winnings were.
I could imagine that these beliefs and positive energy towards his system may have affected the way, style, point of time of gambling in order to make him win for such an extended period of time.
I myself played some of his systems in doubt and busted earlier and more often then he did.
But I liked the old times on this forum chasing the holy grail with Indiana JL!
cheers
Every method would have to be played
as ProofReader tests methods or close to it.
I'm complimented :'-)
I'm still stuck on how John Legend "killed off" Ralph??
How many tricks does this man have?
What is a base for thinking Ralph's story was not real? I checked his IP, it was Sweden. His email was Swedish (.se) too.
Steve could check it further i think. But who said he and his story was fake? Why?
Nobody is happy about this story. But unfortunately there is no any visible reason to think this was not true. His son-in-law mentioned that Ralph as a young man escaped Holocaust in East Europe being brought to Sweden. I don't think anybody would invent such a story. I knew some Jewish people who were being as kids evacuated to Sweden from Germany and thus saved from Holocaust. Those kinds of stories are not very well known and remembered so I don't even think someone like John Legend would come up with this kind of story to tell just for fun.
Quote from: GLC on Mar 14, 03:43 PM 2015
I hope it's true that the murder of Ralph was just a ploy. Even though it's a dastardly thing to do!
At best it would mean that Ralph wasn't who he said he was and so he couldn't be murdered after all.
But what kind of person does this kind of thing to fellow posters.
I have too much invested in this forum to have to endure being jerked around like that.
Hi!
I Think you are right Iggiv because i am from Sweden to and Ralph answered me in a discussion about some system in a way that it was super clear that he was from Sweden.
Perhaps John is a swede, i really hope that he is not a swede.
agesta
John is from UK
Quote from: iggiv on Mar 16, 11:56 AM 2015
His son-in-law
well we dont know he was do we?. He somehow got Ralphs username and password, which doesnt add up.
I dont know why it doesnt strike people as odd.
Having said all that, Ralph wasnt a scammer, didnt mislead anyone. Seemed a helpful cool guy.
If I got his attention, I felt I had achieved something.
We are all JohnLegend >:D >:D >:D
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The guy turned the computer on and found the forum address. On home computers the username and password are usually there.
If he knew that his father in law visits this forum and if he saved the username and password (which is what very likely he did, I don't think he kept this as a secret from his family) it was pretty easy.
I am really surprised people ask those questions. This is not something you really wanna hide from people which are close to you and you are not ashamed about it. Very likely that Ralph told his folks about his roulette hobby activities and could even show the forum. Again -- this is not a secret stuff for most of people. This is not illegal or indecent.
So knowing that some forum fellows could miss Ralph the guy opened his computer, logged on and told here about what happened. He did it only once. Pay attention, he did not log on ever after the last message. Which means he was not interested to participate in this forum, he just wanted to tell about what happened. He was not interested to see reaction or whatever. Just came once, told the story and gone.
I think everything fits.
This forum is still the world's biggest roulette forum. We always going to find everything.
Quote from: iggiv on Mar 16, 07:02 PM 2015
I think everything fits.
Agree. No conspiracy for me, which is unusual. :ooh:
Ol' Johnny did liven up the place, no? I wish he would come back.
Why would he create an alas account to falsely claim he won 70k with his own system? Yes he really did this.
The chances are he is still around, using another name.
Quote from: amk on Mar 15, 04:16 PM 2015
Hello again 2Cat, Turner, GLC, MrJ and other awesome forum members, too many to name!
Havent posted in awhile and only check the forum form time to time, I like randomness : )
Interesting topic.
I think JL was winning with his way of playing for a while. Once the casino account challenge started he lost and also lost his confidence. JL also played on a casino account I had but unfortunately he lost and did not hear back form him.
You can only win for so long with one method is my conclusion. JL might have been right about hit and run though but with a twist. Similar to how Mr J plays, stick with a method until it starts losing (a certain percentage) never play it again and select another method.....
Every method would have to be played as ProofReader tests methods or close to it.
At the moment this is the best strategy I can deduce from 3 years in the game.
Correct amk. I'll continue playing a particular method until if/when it starts to dive, then I "kick it to the side", never play it again. Securing a positive profit (minus my time of course).
Ken
Right or wrong,at least he shared his methods and systems openly.
Not like many in the forum that are just around to criticize and praise that they always win without open a thread for their methods.
Re John Legend..............True....he defo shared all he had....and more ;)
Though...an unusual place to put your first post baffin
Welcome all the same :thumbsup:
Quote from: baffin on Sep 07, 02:48 PM 2015
Right or wrong,at least he shared his methods and systems openly.
Not like many in the forum that are just around to criticize and praise that they always win without open a thread for their methods.
or......he was much more clever at gathering a crowd.
Kinda different M.O. than the usual "seek and you shall find" HG guru's
He gave the rules, agreed, but kept some floppy techniques to use when challenged....predominantly HAR
Did you ever try and disagree with John? LOL.....clearly not
I wish lanky stayed. Bikemotorman used to speak to him. Lanky was weird though. He stopped talking to bike because he thought he sent him spam.
Lanky is older he probably stopped the forums altogether
There is a rumor as to why he left but I'm not sure if it's the truth
His matrix made him a small fortune
Actually...yes I did, and I saw JL take critic time and time again......I think the error of his ways,
(other errors are available), was to over hype slightly and belief beyond doubt.
The failure of the challenge by superman was his death nell...tho i still think there was another
system in him......maybe he too found the P.A. type Eureka moment!?!
He did share other ideas with me, tho they came to nowt in the end.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 07, 04:11 PM 2015
I wish lanky stayed. Bikemotorman used to speak to him. Lanky was weird though. He stopped talking to bike because he thought he sent him spam.
Lanky is older he probably stopped the forums altogether
There is a rumor as to why he left but I'm not sure if it's the truth
His matrix made him a small fortune
Most of that is quite simply untrue RG, your sources must be incorrect.......
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Quote from: ddarko on Sep 07, 04:17 PM 2015
Most of that is quite simply untrue RG, your sources must be incorrect.......
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One thing for sure is that his dozens matrix is very good. If you have patience
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 07, 04:22 PM 2015
One thing for sure is that his dozens matrix is very good. If you have patience
:thumbsup:
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Would you mind posting a method you have created baffin?
Quote from: Chrisbis on Sep 07, 04:15 PM 2015
Actually...yes I did, and I saw JL take critic time and time again......I think the error of his ways,
(other errors are available), was to over hype slightly and belief beyond doubt.
The failure of the challenge by superman was his death nell...tho i still think there was another
system in him......maybe he too found the P.A. type Eureka moment!?!
He did share other ideas with me, tho they came to nowt in the end.
I think John suffered more than most from an illusion that many suffer from.
He saw Random as a Noun not an adjective.
typical misconceived phrases by him were " give random something to think about"
"give random too much to do"