Sam will like this one and for some reason it works more often than not:
Wait for any number to hit in the third column (don't know why third is better than first or second, it just seems to work). Once you get a hit in third column play the street that contains the number for the following progression:
1 unit 4 times
2 units 3 times
3 units 2 times
4 units once
5 units once
6 units once
7 units once
8 units once
10 units once
If you have missed up to here, you have missed for 15 spins and are in the hole 56 units. Two choices, quit and start tracking again or continue, increasing by one unit per spin.
After this point if you hit on any of the bets, you will not be at a new high, so two choices again, quit and start tracking again or reduce the bet by 10 units and continue playing the same street adding one unit per spin.
So far this has not failed in just over a year playing 1 session a day and the biggest drawdown has been 89 units, before recovering. I play 1 euro units. Suggest a bankroll of at least 500 units to be safe, you can hit the session from hell right off the bat, which has happened to me, but so far I have always recovered.
I limit my sessions to around 100 spins, with an average return of 50+ units.
Not every method/system works for everyone, this one works for me.
No guarantees, use at your own risk.
nowun
Thanks. I'll look at it.
Sam
Play more than 1 street at a time?
good question
I ran a test with RX.
I have attached the result I got so far.
It surprises me how well this actually recovers.
Now I didn't play until around 100 spins and then quit so maybe that'll make the DD much less but in my test where I play continuesly I would have needed a BR of 4000 chips playing with 1 unit chips.
I've been thinking that this could totally work if we would play this on BV playing on the European Roulette table.
Playing with 0,01 chips would only need a BR of 40 for it to work.
I'll continue with the test to see how high the DD can actually get.
The spins that am using are 4000 spins recorded from DB.
And to answer the question from RG and TCS,
We only bet 1 street at a time and not more.
We only bet 1 street at a time and not more.
OK, I won't argue the point. I sure could, but........
Sam
First fun test on BV ended up on +6,57 units playing with 0,01 chips.
So far so good. Will continue tomorrow in the evening.
Funny thing is I don't use this on BV, only on another RNG site that I trust. Will have to try it on there now, been milking my other casino for a bit too long and hoping they won't ban me.
3rd column as in the bottom column? 1-34?
Quote from: bckwrds on Apr 06, 08:34 PM 2015
3rd column as in the bottom column? 1-34?
:) That is 1st column. 3rd Column is 3-36
Must be that im Australian, everything is upside-down :)
Quote from: bckwrds on Apr 06, 09:18 PM 2015
Must be that im Australian, everything is upside-down :)
I am to but......OK. :o
More then a year? That ain't to bad at all. Gonna give it a try...thx Nowun
Quote from: nowun on Apr 06, 10:55 PM 2015
I am to but......OK. :o
Lol so thats why your not standing on your head :P
Quote from: denzie on Apr 07, 06:45 AM 2015
More then a year? That ain't to bad at all. Gonna give it a try...thx Nowun
Definitely worth it denzie, you will be surprised. Make sure you trust your casino or play live dealer. Pretty slow with live though. Takes me sometimes more than 2 hours to finish a session with live dealer, but never lost a session. Found this supplements my income nicely (tax free) and tossed around playing roulette full time, but not game enough. :-[
Flat bet?
I did a test on numbers from smartlive..i must say that im suprised..many wins but also had 2 losses already sow you must have been very lucky. Still the wins did overtake the losses!! Great system
R
A steet .. 6 line? Or 3 numbers?
Okay,
Last time i tested it on willhill fake money... What a stupid a..... F.... Program it is. 5 losses straight away. So test it on slingshot and live only! Or like nowun only a trusty rng.
R
Quote from: Rewster88 on Apr 07, 11:24 AM 2015
A steet .. 6 line? Or 3 numbers?
3 numbers
I'll continue my BV test later today.
Okay tnx! A 6 line also works great!
Oops, looks like I wasnt clear enough for anyone but me :o, I regard a street as 6 numbers, but now realise most regard it as a double street.
When I refer to a street I mean double streets 1-6, 7-12, 13-18, 19-24, 25-30, 31-36. Pays 5-1. I don't stray from those numbers when a number from the 3rd column hits, but that is just me, I like it simple.
So if hit on:
3 or 6 bet double street 1-6
9 or 12 bet double street 7-12
15 or 18 bet double street 13-18
21 or 24 bet double street 19-24
27 or 30 bet double street 25-30
33 or 36 bet double street 31-36
Easy peasy. Hopefully that is clear as mud. :thumbsup:
When does a session ends?
Quote from: Rewster88 on Apr 07, 04:33 PM 2015
When does a session ends?
I will answer with a quote from the first post:
Quote from: nowun on Apr 06, 05:47 AM 2015
I limit my sessions to around 100 spins
lol. I just finished a session but played the street and not dubbelstreet. it worked amazing. I guess i was just Lucky :(
Quote from: nowun on Apr 07, 04:24 PM 2015
Oops, looks like I wasnt clear enough for anyone but me :o, I regard a street as 6 numbers, but now realise most regard it as a double street.
When I refer to a street I mean double streets 1-6, 7-12, 13-18, 19-24, 25-30, 31-36. Pays 5-1. I don't stray from those numbers when a number from the 3rd column hits, but that is just me, I like it simple.
So if hit on:
3 or 6 bet double street 1-6
9 or 12 bet double street 7-12
15 or 18 bet double street 13-18
21 or 24 bet double street 19-24
27 or 30 bet double street 25-30
33 or 36 bet double street 31-36
Easy peasy. Hopefully that is clear as mud. :thumbsup:
Now, that explains my high DD I got on a session at BV today :xd:
Going to try it out again with DS.
Me too. Im curious about this. :thumbsup:
dubbelstreet
I love it!!
So many systems; so little time!
Samster
:lol:
On my sofa...drink and snacks....tv....let's give it a few 100spins ....
300spins later im up 130 units... :love:
will continue playing it and see if its keeps doing the job :)
What progression denzie
The one Nowun said. But i didnt reset after losing the 56units. just put +1 on every spin and on a hit take 10 units of and go again till in profit.
Worked perfect
Demo session from today attached, note big loss at end which I cut off at 100 spins, but still a winning session.
Well im keep playing it till it's gonna bust. And when it does...still keep playing till it busts again. I wanna know how many losses i gonna have in a year :wink:
Is everyone playing only one DS at a time?
Why not separate progressions on different DS?
Cheers.
Quote from: ewarwoowar on Apr 09, 03:10 PM 2015
Is everyone playing only one DS at a time?
Why not separate progressions on different DS?
Cheers.
I am playing only one DS at a time.
So far so good for me.
Like Denzie am having good success with this so far.
Am going to continue with this.
There is a 59 step progression for DS somewhere.
I'll have a look, see if I have it. If I remember correctly, it's from Hermes.
I would like to see that progression
And another 89 units ....thx nowun
Quote from: denzie on Apr 09, 04:38 PM 2015
I would like to see that progression
I would like to see that progression as well.
Guys,
I think this is the prog you are looking for...I new I had it somewhere!!!
Quote from: JimmieB on Apr 10, 06:26 AM 2015
Guys,
I think this is the prog you are looking for...I new I had it somewhere!!!
Thank you JimmieB :thumbsup:
Appreciate it.
Aha thx jimmyb .... O0
Anybody tried it out with the progression JimmieB posted?
Haven't had the time myself as of yet.
Not yet, just played a live dealer game on Sky Casino (Speed Roulette) with the original progression, after 96 spins +67 units, highest bet was 7 units, took about 70 mins for those 96 spins...
Jim
Here is a 28 step progression that you could try if game:
Bet amt.......win
1..............05
1..............04
1..............03
2..............07
2..............05
3..............08
4..............10
5..............11
6..............11
7..............10
9..............13
11.............14
14.............18
18.............24
22.............26
27.............29
31.............22
37.............21
45.............24
55.............29
67.............34
82.............42
97.............35
115............28
136............18
164............22
200............38
240............38
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1402 units total
Guys,
Quick update, played another couple of games, live online dealers..I'm quite liking this :)
In my first of the 2 games, 99 spins, standard progression as per the first post, finished +25 units, HB 12 units, LDD -44. With this game I also checked what the results would have been using the Hermes progression attached in the thread, finished +61, HB 5 units, LDD -16. I also ran the results against a progression provided by Winkel in one of his threads titled win as much as you want (search the forum for more info), this finished +37 units, HB 3 units, LDD 0, I think this progression is well worth a look with this system.
The second of the 2 games I finished after 54 spins, bed was calling and I was feeling the wine!! This finished +21 units, HB 5 units, LDD -32 units. I used the Hermes progression in this instance, also, I was going to limit my exposure, as the maximum bet I would have placed would have been 10 units. With this progression, this allows you 26 bets, total BR required 115 units, which is bearable (unlike the full progression which requires a BR of 2000+), with what I believe to be a good return with this method, as you can see I didn't get that far, the max 5 units bet was stage 15 in the progression.
Also with both the Winkel & Hermes progressions, if I get level or reach a new high, I reset.
Regards
Jim
craziest little thing 4 small tests all produced good results
I find this somewhat interesting. I'm always reminded of the system titled Goldfinger. It's a Line bet also. The author suggests the following bet line: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20 etc... Move 1 step to the right on a loss and move 5 steps to the left on a win.
Playing rules:
The rule 1: comes into play after 25 spins and you have a hit and the new session balance is -1$ to -15$ and the next bet is 9$ or higher, end this session and begin a new session with 1$.
The rule 2: comes into play after 40 spins and you have a hit and the new session balance is -1$ to -20$ and the next bet is 9$ or higher, end this attack and begin a new session with 1$.
The rule 3: comes into play after 50 spins and you have a hit and the new session balance is -1$ to -$60 and the next bet is 9$ or higher, end this attack and begin a new session with 1$.
The rule 4: comes into play after 65 spins and you have a hit and the new session balance is -50$ to -120$ and the next bet is 19$ or higher, begin a new session with 1$.
These betting rules can be applied to this bet selection method.
It's recommended that you have a war chest of 800 units at least to play this system.
GLC
I'll keep it original as nowun posted. Big thx mate , didn't lose a session yet :thumbsup:
Quote from: denzie on Apr 14, 04:01 AM 2015
I'll keep it original as nowun posted. Big thx mate , didn't lose a session yet :thumbsup:
No problem mate. Since you asked to see Hermes' progression, I thought you might like to see another progression that was a little different. Also the reset rules make a lot of sense if you want to try to cut losses during a run from the pits. Maybe they can be tweaked to suit a players playing style.
Some statistics other than just units won would be interesting for us. Like, how much you win per spin on average? What's your largest draw down? What's your largest bet made? These facts help us decide what to expect when we play.
Keep winning,
GLC
Quote from: nowun on Apr 06, 05:47 AM 2015
Sam will like this one and for some reason it works more often than not:
Wait for any number to hit in the third column (don't know why third is better than first or second, it just seems to work). Once you get a hit in third column play the street that contains the number for the following progression:
1 unit 4 times
2 units 3 times
3 units 2 times
4 units once
5 units once
6 units once
7 units once
8 units once
10 units once
If you have missed up to here, you have missed for 15 spins and are in the hole 56 units. Two choices, quit and start tracking again or continue, increasing by one unit per spin.
After this point if you hit on any of the bets, you will not be at a new high, so two choices again, quit and start tracking again or reduce the bet by 10 units and continue playing the same street adding one unit per spin.
So far this has not failed in just over a year playing 1 session a day and the biggest drawdown has been 89 units, before recovering. I play 1 euro units. Suggest a bankroll of at least 500 units to be safe, you can hit the session from hell right off the bat, which has happened to me, but so far I have always recovered.
I limit my sessions to around 100 spins, with an average return of 50+ units.
Not every method/system works for everyone, this one works for me.
No guarantees, use at your own risk.
Hey nowun,
Looks like an interesting bet. I will test your system when i will have some time away from the kids:).
Regards,
Alex
Hi all,
Have back tested this against Live spins (William Hill) 5 sessions. Most wins were hit in under 10 spins. However, in each one of those sessions there was a long `un. Using Hermes (59 but I counted 65 steps) I got a 18 -20 - 22 - 23 and 28 steps to the win. Not a problem if big enough BR. I tested a tweak which was waiting for 3 numbers from 1 street then start betting. In this instance most wins came within 5 spins or so No long un`s so swings and roundabouts, making a bit less but made up by the fact that you are playing more shorter runs whilst you would be out of the loop if it became a 28 spin progression. You can work out max draw-down from this info. depending on which progression you are using. With the tweak I noticed that there was a max. of 2 D/S`s at any one time so you could play both (with good recording) Hope this sheds a bit of light on this method. Personally I think that it is looking great. (With the tweak I still waited for a column 3 (3 - 36) number to come before looking for the other 2 numbers. (3 - 9 -12 -15 - 18 - 21 - 24 - 27 -30 - 33 - 36) but perhaps test any 3 numbers from a D/S then bet.
Hi bleep,
Quick query regarding your tweak, when you say 3 numbers in the 1 street, for example numbers 31,1,5,28,18,4 come out, 1,5,4 are in street 1, or as I would name it double street 1, so we would bet this (double) street. There has been some misunderstanding on this thread regarding street, and double street, and I just want to make sure, I've got it correct.
Also, in my back testing, I got several long runs of 20+ losses also, and it does get the heart going....out of interest I've attached a test i did against a day's numbers from Speilbank using the progression from Winkel I mentioned in an earlier post.
Jim
Hi JimmieB,
Yes, 1,5 & 4 are D/S. 1 (1-6) Yes, I have just done another run of about 60 spins. Tried 3 different ways and with each there was a run of about 20 misses so I think that it is safe to say that is what we can reasonably expect, though using Hermes progression not too bad unless you have a dickey ticker!! The three different ways came out about winning roughly the same as you have to wait for 1 series to win before starting another. If it was not for the prospect of running into a 20/30 run I would be tempted to play 2 D/S`s at the same time.
.Hi guys,
Just tested 88 Live spins. 11 winners. Winning on 10 - 3 - 5 - 8 - 5 - 6 - 2 - 11 - 6 - 6 - 4. With original system and progression would have produced 47 units profit. Using original system but Hermes progression 28 units. So no high spin numbers there. If for instance a 28 run came out with original progression and +1 per spin would be betting a final of 23 units whereas with Hermes 12 units so this would not put you in front and would take perhaps another couple of winning series to put you there but a safer option (for some) and a lesser BR.
played this in casino tonight and made 30 units--
Quote from: Tomla021 on Apr 13, 07:08 PM 2015
craziest little thing 4 small tests all produced good results
Yes Tom been testing somethink, done 17 tests on old results, brill, played today 1st game goes like a dream, move to different shop and lost.
Hour later same shop similar results as earlier but the win came,so perhaps wont chuck just yet.