denzie
You must understand one thing (and I'll bet Nick will tell you this)--I AM ON YOUR SIDE!! I am not the enemy. I merely test and report. Good or bad.
So if I understand your latest, it is to wait for four dozens to hit and then use the "foolproof" progression. The sheet is set to flat bet.
Now if that is correct, simply say "yes" and we'll move on.
@tomla
I am not trying to discredit this man. Lord, I'd love for this thing to work! Look at what I wrote above. Is that the system?
Yes, tomla, you can drop in on a wheel and win most of the time. It's the one time you can't win that will destroy you.
Sam
Yes.
foolproof is +1 win or lose
122131111(now bet 1-1)1,lose and we wait, 2,2,1,3,1,2,2,3,3,3,3,(now bet 2-2), 3 , lose again and we wait , 1,1,2,2,2,2(now bet 3-3), 1 , win but still 3units down so we keep going in the progression , 2,2,3,1,3,3,3,3(now bet 4-4),2 , win and new profit and reset back to 1-1 after the trigger of course. This is the safe way.
The other way is reset when have 5-10units profit. Then you make more money but go deeper in the progression also.
Sorry for the long explantion but i wanna make sure we on the same level
All is clear?
I thought it was wait for a dozen to repeat 3 times then flat bet the other 2 ONCE
Denzie -"That is correct Sam. Bet only 1 time after the trigger. Flatbet. And then wait for the trigger to come again and repeat."
As Sam said...the sheet is set for flatbet. As there was some mistake in the previous sheet. So the sheet gonna test flatbetting once after the trigger(3times in a row a dozen comes). Nick already send me 100k spins today about this. As i thought it busted cuz theres no stop point. But it did get in profit too. So there i would stopped.
The foolproof is something i yet need to let nick write a sheet for. I just give the info for those who wanna try.
I didnt ask Sam to test it as i thought he stopped.
But i will let it tested soon
denzie
You do not have to ask Nick to program the "foolproof" into the sheet. That is in the bot. I paid Stef $50 for it. And some other things he did for free........
Alright...................
I set the bot for flat bet on the sheet, wait for 4 dozens to hit consecutively and the bet with the "foolproof" progression. The bot will be set for a loss of two units. The "foolproof" will increase it.
Here is the way it looks: 4 hit bet 1-1, loss 4 hit bet 2-2 loss, 4 hit bet 3-3 WINW 4 hit 4-4 until in profit.
Sam
It is up and running and doing well. I must get away from these computers or I'll lose what little mind I have left.
by golly ms molly--sam i think u got what the denzie man wants--lol , its hard to explain systems to where everyone gets it !!!!!
Around 15,000 spins...UP 167 units. Draw down...28 units
@Tom ... lol yep. Not easy. :twisted: But in the thread "twocat tests denzie's system" there i think all is clear(i hope) #post 35
@Sam ... yep thats correct. Happy to see its running and also doing pretty good. Keep us posted pls.
I thought you was gonna run the Original system of flatbet 1 time after a dozen comes 3times.
But im more interested in the foolproof. Soooo :) :) :)
Grts
about 50,000 spins........500 up 238 draw down
75,000 and looking good.
HUGEwait time!
OK, here's the first 100,000. Very good result BUT I simply don't see how this could be played any way except with a bot. One might use it as a companion system to something else, but to play this as a stand-alone system would bore a statue to tears.
At one point, it went negative and must have taken a thousand spins to get back to the green. The counter went up to around 57, which means there were 57 wins and loses before it won back what it lost. Now, each one of those 57 could take three to four hundred--that's right--spins to win. Figure that on your abacus.
But it's all good!
On the next run, I am using "wait 2" to see what it does by waiting for two dozens in a row instead of four. So far, it looks almost identical.
Sam
love to see this tested flat for 5000 spins just to see........wouldnt expect it to win that way but would be interesting
I believe its a good system indeed. And yep without a bot it's long waiting time. Just see it as something on the side. When they come just play them. But a bot would be the answer here.
waiting 2 or 3 times works also but you need a bigger BR. Maybe test them is the answer here.
grts and thx
Gents
There are things I don't believe in and virtual is one of them. I feel you would get the same result if you took the last dozen to come (2) and bet the 1 and 3 with no waiting. The sheet Nick wrote won't do that or I'd try it. Might dispel some old beliefs.
Or not! People tend to believe what they want and refuse to let the facts confuse them. I was that way a long time. When I quit trying to make water run uphill and started to "go with the flow", things got better.
Then there's "hit and run". Oh, don't get me started...........
Thanks, denzie. If I had access to Bet Voyager you can bet I'd play this some, but I'd spread it out over days. When you're on fifteen hours a day--day in and day out--they know you're using a bot. As long as you're losing, all is good. Just win and see what happens. Especially when you win consistently.
I'll post on my Riverwind thread tomorrow. I have won a free buffet and $45 in comp money. And I won $100 doing that.
Why do I shovel dirt? Because I can, thank the Lord. I have a friend dying of cancer. He'd love to shovel dirt.
That's my sermon!!
Twocat
When it comes to ban you or kick you out the casino...didn't happened to me yet. And as you might know i used to play 1000spins a day. I won with this 500 to......units a day. But i was tired of waiting so many hours b4 i could place my first bet. Looks like the belgian casino's ain't that bad at all. And of course change to another casino every day or even the same day.
And i will ask Nick to write a sheet about my #Little holy grail#...here you can bet almost every spin and makes 20-40units per hour with really small down draft. Sorry but i can't post all at once. If your interested of course. ...???
About your friend. ..sorry to hear. This damn cancer!! We all know someone who's fighting it or lost.
hey denzie, twocat and all
Im home right now and have some free time to do some programming.
Can you please give me the system so i can give it a try in excel and then come back with the results and excel sheet FREE for all, as always.
Right now im confused about triggers/ betting sequence.
Regards,
Alex
Pls look reply #1 ...there you find the info ;)
denzie
OK, I tried setting the sheet for two in a row and it lost 100,000 units and shut off. Here is the second test as you wanted it run.
Sam
Thx Sam . I expected that to happen. Cuz sometimes i play "wait for3" with a 1000unit BR and a few times i came close to bust. So trigger 2 is a no go.And a huge BR for winning small units i don't like. Trigger 3 im bit curious but my feeling tell me it's gonna bust too. So trigger 4 is the answer here. Trigger 5 or 6 i have no idea but i guess they "could" work also. If they do then play them separately. Foolproof is a good method with the right trigger.
Something to play on the side.
Grts Denzie
Hey denzie and all,
This are the results i got from denzie`s method, waiting 4 same than betting the opposite dozens, with foolproof progression.
The batches are of random generated 10500 numbers. excel randbetween (0,36).
What do you guys think?
Regards,
Alex
just to make sure its the same thing Probasah after a loss did your test reset and go to next set of 4 in a row?
Same as "Denzies double dozens" set a loss point and win point. Should come out as a winner :)
Quote from: Tomla021 on Apr 09, 10:39 AM 2015
just to make sure its the same thing Probasah after a loss did your test reset and go to next set of 4 in a row?
Hey Tomla. The answer is YES. :) One bet only then reset.
Regards,
Alex
thanks for the info probasah
Trigger 1 ...nope
Trigger 2 ...nope
Trigger 3 ...possible but better not
Trigger 4 ...yep
Trigger 5 ...nope
Trigger 6 ...yep
Trigger more then 6 ...yep
Of course for the bot or we die b4 get a hit :thumbsup:
Its an event bet. Its a thin balance between bet opportunities and the amount of money to bet. No one in their right mind would play a system where you have to wait for 10,000 spins to get a bet opportunity. What if that bet is a loss? you wait for another 10,000 spins to make another shot?
The system has to adapt to a normal "casino day", lets say 200-300 spins - 4-5 hours including time to eat, go to toilet etc:)
In this case, in 10,000 have an average of 250 bet opportunities. Thats like 2,5 bets every 100 spins. Still a playable method.
From 5 consecutive up, you need a BOT.
This is a very very good bet selection, thats what i can say from my tests. With the right money management(foolproof+stop loss) this is a golden goose.
Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Alex
Exactly Alex :love:
Thx again for the work my friend
more
Time for me to move on. I have two systems more to test.
Go Samster Go :twisted:
Anyone tried this already? I switched from live to fast rng spins....it saves lots of time and the outcome still good. Nobody?
Before i was truly against rng...but what they say on the forum is correct. Rng just gives the rfh faster then live. Cuz +/- 500 spins/hour
Denzie
3mil spins
UNITS: 39986 units
WON: 59508
LOST:28511
HIGHEST PROGRESSION:661 (x unit size)
Do you have a stop loss? Progression got really big
Can you explain the Units , won and lost pls ?
Units = ?
Won = hit on the first attempt?
Lost = not hit on the first attempt and the foolproof start?
Aaah memories :)
Is twocat still around here ?
Cheers
Quote from: denzie on Aug 02, 05:06 AM 2016
Aaah memories :)
Is twocat still around here ?
Cheers
I hope so. Old school guy, I'll take him any day to shoot the breeze with.
Ken