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Title: Missing numbers method
Post by: VegasBoy on Apr 09, 11:22 PM 2015
A couple of days ago, it had occurred to me that when looking at the digital readout board above the tables, you never see the stack of numbers missing the # 1 or 2 in a combination on the board. I was in the El Cortez this morning and visited the tables to confirm this. Originally i thought why not bet all the numbers containing a 2. Then i watched the number of losses between all numbers containing a two to find maybe 3 loss or 4 in between numbers with two. Most of the in between numbers contained a 1. So with that said i tested my rng to find no more than 3 loss streak using this method, so a limited marty should work well i would think. I changed to split bets for all the board numbers containing a 1 and a 2. Would like to here your thoughts!?
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: VegasBoy on Apr 09, 11:51 PM 2015
To clarify,  bet all numbers with a 1 in it. Bet all numbers with a 2 in it. Very simple. No triggers to wait for, no fallacy involved. These numbers are on the digital display constantly.  Thats what i see at the tables. A limited marty will get you through until you hit and that will likely happen within the next 12 numbers on the display. In fact virtually impossible for it not to happen within the 12 spins.  Ive only witnessed a three streak loss between numbers.  Doesnt mean it cant streak more ,however still slim to none and slim just left town.
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Apr 10, 12:12 AM 2015
1, 11, 21, 31
2, 12, 22, 32

Vegas

Are those all of the numbers?  If not, please post them.  I am a sucker for numbers.

Sam

Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: VegasBoy on Apr 10, 12:37 AM 2015
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 31 32 and maybe 1 and 2 but those hit rarely but you can add them in if you want. All 1s and 2s in every combo.
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: VegasBoy on Apr 10, 01:07 AM 2015
My not work to well with computer roulette. Live wheel only maybe. Look at the number display at any given time on a table and tell me you dont see a 1 or 2 in some combo on the display! If you do take a pic and prove me wrong!
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: denzie on Apr 10, 01:47 AM 2015
24 nrs again?  I see a lot of commotion lately on that. But still im not convinced.  How much u tested this in real spins?
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: VegasBoy on Apr 10, 01:58 AM 2015
Not just 24 numbers. 24 particular numbers. We are betting that one of those will definitely come up within 12 spins. Only notice this a couple days ago and observed today at a casino. Havent played yet live. Every table i checked had one or more of those numbers on the display board. Even googling pics of displays online showed the same results. Tryed with apps and havent got past a 3 loss streak so far.
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: VegasBoy on Apr 10, 02:07 AM 2015
In order for my numbers to fail the board display would have to look like this..       0 30 2 33 36 7 9 34 00 30 3 5. Only an example, not that it couldnt happen but highly unlikely. 
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: ati on Apr 10, 02:15 AM 2015
Here's 100 numbers from random.org. The bold is a single loss, red is a series of losses. Total number of losing bets is 41. Of course 100 number is far from enough, but the number of losing bets should be around 33, and it's enough to prove that it is no better than betting on any 24 numbers.

13
12
12
7
23
1
6
20
11
13
17
33

13
15
10
2
2
13
8
6
20
13
7
27
8
18
2
23
1
7
34
8
32
12
6
4
3
4
16
24
34
34
9
36
9
7
25
5
22
25
32
19
24
6
32
11
18
1
5
1
27
12
14
6
7
26
17
34
26
3
34
0
35
23
35
21
2
10
34
2
9
3
34
6
35
34
32
24
3
2
27
12
4
31
31
13
31
7
19
27
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: VegasBoy on Apr 10, 02:28 AM 2015
Proves my point perfectly. Break that up into groups of 12 or 15 and every section will have numbers containing a 1 or 2 in any combo. Since you bet every number containing a 1 or 2 you will win quite frequently! Doesnt matter if lose every other spin, so long as your bankroll can withstand a small streak of consecutive losses. Limited marty to recover small streak losses and still end up profit. If the game was a 100 spins long and you lost every other spin a limited marty would put you at a nice profit at the end if the 100 spins. Hope that helps. Wins and losses are fine, its the losses in a row that'll kill your bankroll
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: VegasBoy on Apr 10, 02:35 AM 2015
Ati... if my bankroll could cover the biggest streak loss in those 100 random numbers you posted, which is 6 in a row by my count i wouldve have walked out of a casino very happy if those exact numbers you gave, came out that way at a table.
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: VegasBoy on Apr 10, 02:38 AM 2015
Remember no flat betting here except the first two spins then progression from there.
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: probasah on Apr 10, 02:40 AM 2015
Hey vegasboy,

Long time ago i used to play around with the same ideas. i was grouping the numbers in 1, 11,21,31 ..2,12,22,32, etc. Made all sort of matrixes and mumbo jumbo. None worked.
The result was the same as betting any other combination of numbers. You win 10,000 numbers for 7 times and then comes the dreadful other 10,000 spins that wipe out all of your earnings.Its quite funny, you cannot reverse the method. you win 10 sessions +10 and the 11th one comes with -1000. And your -900 in a heartbeat.
To put this method in a tracker is complicated but not impossible. i just do not see how it can work. No to mention that it can take an enormous amount of money to bet on 2,12,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,32 (13 numbers!) with progression.

Regards,
Alex
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: ati on Apr 10, 02:44 AM 2015
Ok, but marty is denitely not the way. After just 3 losses in a row, the 4th bet would be a total of 648 units, since you'd have to triple the chips on each numbers. Bankroll needed for a 7th spin after 6 losses in a row is 26232 units.

Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: VegasBoy on Apr 10, 02:50 AM 2015
Alex.. i agree with you on the money being large with progression. However ive been doing roulette for a few years now and only play live vegas casinos. I watch the display number boards while im there and these are the things i witness.  Ill travel to more casinos and check there boards frequently to see if this is the standard.
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: VegasBoy on Apr 10, 02:53 AM 2015
Ati.. ill look into the bankroll more closely. But was thinking about splits to cut down on bankroll.
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: denzie on Apr 10, 04:33 AM 2015
24 nrs with marty ? Brrrrr i pass  :lol:
Alex is right here

And about the losing streaks...they always come. That's the problem with every system.  The better ones can take some punches but here it's emergency room.

Just my thought
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 11, 01:42 PM 2015
Here's an idea for you.

Why not separate the one's and two's into High/Low or Red/Black bunches
so if one of the bunches hits bet the whole bunch for 9 spins flat bet?
Title: Re: Missing numbers method
Post by: VegasBoy on Apr 11, 03:00 PM 2015
Ill give it a try. Every board i see at every table i go has 1s and 2s covering the number display.  The wins are just sitting there, even multiple times on the display. What ever method i use ill have to stay away from an astronomical bankroll. Im on to something based on what i see on live tables.