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Title: Holy Graill
Post by: rouletteMann on May 06, 10:18 AM 2015
hi,
real money...
Real time - over 120 spins in a row...
13 numbers system (lucky 13!)
Bet 0,25 (0,25x13=3,25 initial bet)
you can see winning numbers, time, bankroll...
Coment please...
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: ati on May 06, 12:49 PM 2015
Impressive result. If you need some to test it further, do not hesitate to contact me.  :D
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: RouletteGhost on May 06, 01:18 PM 2015
A holy grail thread

Ok I'll bite.

How is it played? If the spreadsheet explains then i apologize. I cannot open it on my phone

Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: buffalowizard on May 06, 01:29 PM 2015
Yet another 'holy grail' thread were the actual method isn't explained or even hinted at. Good luck RG!
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: rouletteMann on May 06, 02:41 PM 2015
Hi everyone,
After years of playing ... I can say, "That's it !!!"
Like many players, I've tried many, many systems ...

The result: All these systems work 20, 30, 50 ... 100 spins, and then - TILT ...
Who has played a lot of, you know, flat beting = loss, but slowly ...
Positive progression ... hmm ..., slow or aggressive ... always comes blackout ...
I lost a lot of money on them ...

Who has solved the problem of progression ... Thats it!

I've tested my system on over 50,000 spins, all the live dealer ...
Of course, written ...
The system must be based on the rule ... always, without skipping spins, do not wait for some kind of "trigger" ... Play in a row ... if it is good - bankroll must withstand all challenges ..., without a big loss.

Who wants to, we test together ...
Real time, real (or fun) money ..., but - live dealer only ...

I do not want to talk - I want to prove!!!

Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: Tomla021 on May 06, 02:45 PM 2015
i have plenty of real time spins would love to know the method or the bet so I can test or play
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: rouletteMann on May 06, 03:48 PM 2015
something for my friend buffalowizard...

Another casino,
real money
real time, statistic on my account..

initial bet o,5 x 13 numbers (lucky 13) ?= 6,50











Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: RouletteGhost on May 06, 06:33 PM 2015
Whats the strategy.

Game play

Rules

Bet selection
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: buffalowizard on May 07, 01:49 AM 2015
Those things aren't important RG

What's important are these screenshots of how often this beauty keeps winning...

Oh and it's 13 numbers by the way  ;)
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: Interstate89 on May 07, 02:39 AM 2015
50.000 spins checked? Holy moses! You must have a lot of time.


if 1 spin pro minute ...
I said, tested the system over 50,000.
and played a lot more ...
Be interesting ..., over 20 black in a row, 6x same number in a row ... and more ...
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: Rewster88 on May 07, 03:17 AM 2015
??
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: roufor69 on May 07, 12:35 PM 2015
Hi rouletteMann,

Many internet Live dealer casinos allow only 15-20 seconds to think & bet. Is this enough for Lucky13?
It should not be 13 singles then but at least 1-2 splits/streets also.

Thanks
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: rouletteMann on May 07, 12:50 PM 2015
here's someone who plays !!!

Of course, I'm playing in casinos where there is an option to save favorites bets.
In some 4, 6 or more favorites bets.

Unfortunately, I loved Fitzwilliams (DublinBet), but at the beginning of the year changed the software ... now there is no option to save favorites bets ..
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: roufor69 on May 07, 03:47 PM 2015
Quote from: rouletteMann on May 07, 12:50 PM 2015
Of course, I'm playing in casinos where there is an option to save favorites bets.
In some 4, 6 or more favorites bets.

So, it's fixed numbers? If so, they can't win so often. Thought they change according to last spin(s)...
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: rouletteMann on May 07, 03:56 PM 2015
hi everyone,
I asked the man (who knows a lot about roulette game), what he thought of my system ..
He told me: "the gain, increasing bets, and all higher profits"
I listened to him...
Today...
:love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: rouletteMann on May 07, 04:16 PM 2015
and my litlle software...
:embarrassed:
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: RouletteGhost on May 07, 04:46 PM 2015
If you dont explain how you play then you are destined for a bad time.

If you can take the time to do the excel spreadsheets then you can explain

To explain my system,I need a few days ...
My English is not good enough ...
to explain can be just playing ...

I believe the roulette table can not be beaten ... (Einstein) ...
But, can the wheel ...
imagine the wheel with holes (no numbers) ..., and the ball drop ... Where ???
and again, and again ... some rules appear ...
in my last session ... see the picture ... Played 114 spin (A2)

I play with 13 numbers x4 ... and I have hit (E2, F2 = 82) and (I2, J2 = 79)
82/2 = 41 114/41 = 2.78: 79/2 = 39.5 114 / 39.5 = 2.88 average = 2.86 (K6)
The rule is that every 2.86 spin I have hit.
it is less than 0.02 statistical average.


Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: thelaw on May 07, 06:53 PM 2015
OK. This is not rocket-science!!!

Steps to Holy Grail :

1) Post clear detailed instructions on how to play your system/method

2) Show a few examples of success with real-wheel numbers (probably about 1000 spins would be sufficient)

3) Test it with real money over a few thousand spins with decent profit and publish your results

4) Others will quickly follow and test your system with results of their own

5) You now have the grail


Nobody has done this yet......there is always some type of caveat :

"you must feel the system, not follow strict rules"

"if I give it away, then all would use it, and the casinos would dry up"

"pm me and I'll teach it to you"

"my English is not so good, so I can't explain it"

................and on and on = Bullsh*t

For anyone who has a system : Either put up or shut up!!!

Members - How much time have we all wasted on posts showing parts of systems? For years???

Look at Ignatus as an example of a perfect poster : He posts instructions to every system and then runs it through his program with printed results. Just think of how much time he has saved everyone by doing the homework. What if everyone did this?

Once again : This is not rocket science!!!


Nothing is going to change until members start pushing back against trolling posters. If you don't show your full system : YOU ARE A TROLL!!!


Just my $.02 :)
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: TwoCatSam on May 07, 08:32 PM 2015
Are we talking about the problem of getting the bets down in time?  VLS wrote me a clicker that will place bets in a second or two.  You can open six or eight at a time and place different bets.

Just call me "Sam the Problem Solver"...

TwoCat
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: RouletteGhost on May 07, 08:36 PM 2015
Ok

I did not write that last reply

This guy edited my post
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: ati on May 08, 02:30 AM 2015
To the OP:
Forum rule nr 9.
QuoteNo "baiting", which is where you brag about how great your system is, but you don't share anything except perhaps obscure details that lead people along. The forum is a place for open sharing. If you "bait" people, expect to be banned.
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9426.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9426.0)

To the other members, before the usual festival starts: obey the other rules. Do not start attacking the guy, beg for his method, insulting each other, etc. Give him some time. If he doesn't share, just let the thread die.
Now I act like a mod.  ::)
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: Interstate89 on May 08, 03:29 AM 2015
Can somebody tell me how somebody can place a text in my post. I dont like the fact that someone can manipulate my posts. I think i´m almost done with rouletteMann because he places a text in other peoples posts.

Quote50.000 spins checked? Holy moses! You must have a lot of time.


if 1 spin pro minute ...
I said, tested the system over 50,000.
and played a lot more ...
Be interesting ..., over 20 black in a row, 6x same number in a row ... and more ...
I have created the bold, red marked words and not the rest.
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: roufor69 on May 08, 06:26 AM 2015
Interstate89

the same happened to my last post! But the addition was revealing a part of the system (if it was true), ie how many different bets (suppose depending on last numbers???)
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: RouletteGhost on May 08, 06:33 AM 2015
..
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: roufor69 on May 08, 06:37 AM 2015
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 07, 08:36 PM 2015
Ok

I did not write that last reply

This guy edited my post

You can edit your post
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: Interstate89 on May 08, 06:43 AM 2015
Quote from: roufor69 on May 08, 06:37 AM 2015
You can edit your post
I can only do that as the last reply. If somebody posts behind me i can not change it.
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: roufor69 on May 08, 07:08 AM 2015
Quote from: Interstate89 on May 08, 06:43 AM 2015
I can only do that as the last reply. If somebody posts behind me i can not change it.

I read my post just after I pressed the 'Post' button, saw the text added and removed it immediately.
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: RouletteGhost on May 08, 07:27 AM 2015
This type of stuff is getting real stupid. The last person who took the time to post intense charts but no explanation was falkor.

Its gettin real old.
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: thelaw on May 08, 12:53 PM 2015
Agreed.

So are we to believe that no one has a winning system?

I do find it a bit hard to believe that someone hasn't cobbled together a good solid method with strict money management that works long term.

Sometimes I wonder if we have let effective-long-term systems slide because they were boring (like only winning 10% per day), or perhaps a working system is a great deal of work.

Here's an example :

1) keep track of the last 18 unique numbers to show
2) now take those remaining 18 (ignore zero)
3) wait for a disparity among a particular ec/dozen
4) then bet with long-term progression (like 100 spins) to make small profit (1%)
5) repeat


Surely some members play for a living.
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: rouletteMann on May 08, 12:57 PM 2015
Hi thelaw,
Why are you mad ???

This is "Testing zones", now ...
I test my system, and show the results ...

Do you think I'll show system ???
I'm not so crazy ...

Do you think I'm selling. for a few hundred ???
I do not...
I show results, to show people that there is a solution to beat roulette ...

I said already, the year, and thousands of spins, time and money ...
I must show that I won !!!

I can help with advice that people do not waste time on something that does not work...


Of course, I'll playing today, and I'll show result...  >:D




Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: rouletteMann on May 08, 01:13 PM 2015
Quote from: thelaw on May 08, 12:53 PM 2015
Agreed.

So are we to believe that no one has a winning system?

I do find it a bit hard to believe that someone hasn't cobbled together a good solid method with strict money management that works long term.

Sometimes I wonder if we have let effective-long-term systems slide because they were boring (like only winning 10% per day), or perhaps a working system is a great deal of work.

Here's an example :

1) keep track of the last 18 unique numbers to show
2) now take those remaining 18 (ignore zero)
3) wait for a disparity among a particular ec/dozen
4) then bet with long-term progression (like 100 spins) to make small profit (1%)
5) repeat


Surely some members play for a living.



You say :"I do find it a bit hard to believe that someone hasn't cobbled together a good solid method with strict money management that works long term."

I guess you're the smartest guy in the world, so if you can not - nobody can?!?
Sorry, mann ... There are better ... sorry...
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: thelaw on May 08, 01:14 PM 2015
Hey RouletteMann,

Didn't mean to come off mad. Not mad at all, just posing questions.

As for your previous posts, unless I'm missing something, you have shown nothing of value; no system. Results without a system are like a punchline without the joke.

Imagine if everyone posted "results" without the full system. This would no longer be a forum, but a list; just.........a..........list.

Do you think that people come here to just read other's stories of success, or looking for a way to beat the game?

Go back and look at my posts, and you'll see that I provided several systems, tested them against my numbers and numbers provided by other members, and then posted the results in full. That's it. I did the work. All of my systems have failed, but no one had to test them but me.

If you're just here to post results with no system, let me save you some time. Take the time that you would have spent posting and play more roulette. This will make everyone happier in the long run.

On the other hand, if you have a successful system, then post it and let others test it out. You could be Legend with a legit system. Why not be a Legend in the minds of men.:)
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: rouletteMann on May 08, 01:24 PM 2015
Ok thelaw, are you interested to test system with me???
Only 50-100 spins in a row...
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: RouletteGhost on May 08, 01:26 PM 2015
The problem with showing results with no strategy description is dragging people along

Whats the point?
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: thelaw on May 08, 01:28 PM 2015
Quote from: rouletteMann on May 08, 01:24 PM 2015
Ok thelaw, are you interested to test system with me???
Only 50-100 spins in a row...

How about posting your system for everyone to test? :)
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: rouletteMann on May 08, 01:32 PM 2015
Quote from: thelaw on May 08, 01:28 PM 2015
How about posting your system for everyone to test? :)

Out of the question.
I select a few people to play together ...
for himself, and for me...
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: thelaw on May 08, 01:36 PM 2015
Quote from: rouletteMann on May 08, 01:32 PM 2015
Out of the question.
I select a few people to play together ...
for himself, and for me...


Congrats RouletteMann!!!

You just lost all credibility on this forum.................time to move on. Best wishes! :)
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: rouletteMann on May 08, 01:42 PM 2015
Quote from: thelaw on May 08, 01:36 PM 2015

Congrats RouletteMann!!!

You just lost all credibility on this forum.................time to move on. Best wishes! :)


Yousay, there is no Holy Grail ...
You say that does not work ...
I challenge you to prove it - you will not ...
What's the problem, unless you ???
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: RouletteGhost on May 08, 02:02 PM 2015
Stop this nonsense. Just stop. Put up the rules of the strategy or leave. You are the 4th one in 2 weeks

Its really annoying now
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: rouletteMann on May 08, 02:15 PM 2015
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 08, 02:02 PM 2015
Stop this nonsense. Just stop. Put up the rules of the strategy or leave. You are the 4th one in 2 weeks

Its really annoying now

I only respond to provocation ...
what someone can not accept, that's his problem ...
If you do not have smart questions, do not provoke ...
OK?

there is no greater nonsense, except when someone thinks he knows ...
Title: Re: Holy Graill
Post by: Turner on May 08, 02:18 PM 2015
Quote from: thelaw on May 08, 01:28 PM 2015
How about posting your system for everyone to test? :)

Quote from: rouletteMann on May 08, 01:32 PM 2015
Out of the question.
I select a few people to play together ...
for himself, and for me...

Heard enough? I have

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