I try my best to make a method easy to play, as usual, I would use a notebook at the casino.
This is betting 5 (yes 5) numbers and up a unit when needed. The best thing about this method for the low BR guys, its only a $180 buy in (dollar chips). If you lose the $180, please go home (lol).
We will focus on four different sets of numbers >>
1 3 5 7 9
19 21 23 25 27
2 4 6 8 10
20 22 24 26 28.
We start with the 1 3 5 7 9 and go in order as shown, when its time to switch groups.
After the 20 22 24 26 28, back to the top again etc.
We bet $3 on the 1 3 5 7 9. This covers a $15 min bet at the table. When to stop and move on to the next group?? When 3 of the 5 numbers are hit OR any four hits. EXAMPLE >> the 1, 7, 7, & 1.
Another example might be >> the 5, 5, 3 & 5...or... the 7, 9 & 3.
This is WHY you will need the small notebook....so we start out at $3 per. You have to keep track of the misses per number. At every 10th "no hit", add $1 on to THAT number. You may think that you would have stacks up to the ceiling but you'll be moving on to the NEXT group faster than you think.
Assuming its not yet time to switch your group. you continue to bet even on your hit numbers. So, you continue betting on 5 numbers regardless. After a hit on a PARTICULAR number, go back down to $3 for *THAT* number with ONE exception...... I am a big believer in back to back hits.
Lets say you were betting $6 on the 9 and it hits (its not yet time to switch groups), for the next spin, keep the $6 on the 9. Another hit on the 9? Keep the $6 on the 9 again. Still not time to switch groups and no additional hit on the 9?
Back down to $3 on the 9 and start keeping track again....10 no hits, up it by $1 etc. Its time to switch groups? $3 on the 19 21 23 25 27 etc.
Another what if situation..... you just got a hit on the 7 ($4 bet), its time to switch groups.
I would do the $3 per on your NEW group and YES, keep the $4 on the 7 !!!! I have been killed too many times taking a winning bet off and it hits back to back. So basically, at the time of switching groups, you will be betting 6 numbers for a min. of ONE spin. Dont forget, the ONLY way to switch groups is after some sort of a hit.
KEEP IN MIND, each group is called a session and NOT every session will be a winner, thats roulette folks but the OVERALL of this is that you should make a decent profit.
When to QUIT? I would quit at around (it does not need to be exact), $450 gross, $270 net (est), it does not need to be $270 on the head !! $250 is fine, QUIT. $300 is fine, QUIT.
Ken
I tested it on link:s://bitcoinvideocasino.com/roulette
using progression +1u after 7 spins (not reset after a win, but when reaching a new high i changed bets)
I won 400u (funmode!)
I know, RNG is not recommended just playing for fun! :S
Thank you for the results sir.
Ken
Oh, man, I'll have to study on this one.
....and ignatus just got it right off.
I better sober up!
Thanks, Ken.
Sam
Lets be honest, a person can take *ANY* method and conform it to their style of play. I feel my way of play (for this method) is spot on but like I said.....all posts are welcomed. The more the better.
Ken
I tested it flatbet, (with livespins) as you described.
I switched group if I get 1 hit and then if it hits again within 7 spin.
Reson why it works, I believe, is that these groups have a tendency to repeat
Thanks Mr J!
Congratulations on you newest creation :d
If it comes from J im sure its good
Cant wait to read it later
Ken
Did you design this for the American wheel?
Sam
Hi Ken,
Thanks for sharing; couple of queries....
Ref the groups, are they based on wheel layout, and if so I'm assuming these are for the American wheel, if it's not based on wheel layout, I take it these groups are the same for the Euro wheel?
Also, with a BR of just the 180, if you have 10 no hits, your BR is almost gone, however, I see you are having to start high to due to min bet requirements, I take it if you don't have a min bet requirement there's nothing to stop you from having your bets starting at 1 unit per number, and have a BR adjusted accordingly, for example a BR of 150 would allow 20 misses, likewise your win goal could be adjusted accordingly, as you say there are no hard rules, you are giving details of how you play, and the player can tweak to suit there "style"?
Thanks in advance.
Jim
Quote from: TwoCatSam on May 26, 01:05 PM 2015
Ken
Did you design this for the American wheel?
Sam
Yes but I play 00 only (no 0 wheels here). It can be used for BOTH because the 4 groups stay together (per wheel side) of the 0 and 00 wheel. Example being..... the 2 4 6 8 10 are on ONE side of the wheel for both the 0 and 00.
Ken
Assuming its not yet time to switch your group. you continue to bet even on your hit numbers. So, you continue betting on 5 numbers regardless. After a hit on a PARTICULAR number, go back down to $3 for *THAT* number with ONE exception...... I am a big believer in back to back hits.
Lets say you were betting $6 on the 9 and it hits (its not yet time to switch groups), for the next spin, keep the $6 on the 9. Another hit on the 9? Keep the $6 on the 9 again. Still not time to switch groups and no additional hit on the 9?
OK, Ken and guys, I'm confused.
Refer to the first paragraph and particularly the blue. As I understand paragraph one, if you get a hit on a number and you were betting more than three units, you go back down to three units.
Paragraph two says if you get a hit with more than three units, stay at that level.
Anyone have any input on that?
Sam
Quote from: JimmieB on May 26, 01:13 PM 2015
Hi Ken,
Thanks for sharing; couple of queries....
Ref the groups, are they based on wheel layout, and if so I'm assuming these are for the American wheel, if it's not based on wheel layout, I take it these groups are the same for the Euro wheel?
Also, with a BR of just the 180, if you have 10 no hits, your BR is almost gone, however, I see you are having to start high to due to min bet requirements, I take it if you don't have a min bet requirement there's nothing to stop you from having your bets starting at 1 unit per number, and have a BR adjusted accordingly, for example a BR of 150 would allow 20 misses, likewise your win goal could be adjusted accordingly, as you say there are no hard rules, you are giving details of how you play, and the player can tweak to suit there "style"?
Thanks in advance.
Jim
All 4 groups are "somewhat" together on a side (side A or side B) of the wheel for BOTH the 0 and 00. Yeah, sometimes our mins here are kind of high so I started it out at $3 per just to be on the safe side. Yes, adjust it if needed.
Ken
Quote from: TwoCatSam on May 26, 02:08 PM 2015
Assuming its not yet time to switch your group. you continue to bet even on your hit numbers. So, you continue betting on 5 numbers regardless. After a hit on a PARTICULAR number, go back down to $3 for *THAT* number with ONE exception...... I am a big believer in back to back hits.
Lets say you were betting $6 on the 9 and it hits (its not yet time to switch groups), for the next spin, keep the $6 on the 9. Another hit on the 9? Keep the $6 on the 9 again. Still not time to switch groups and no additional hit on the 9?
OK, Ken and guys, I'm confused.
Refer to the first paragraph and particularly the blue. As I understand paragraph one, if you get a hit on a number and you were betting more than three units, you go back down to three units.
Paragraph two says if you get a hit with more than three units, stay at that level.
Anyone have any input on that?
Sam
I think I understand your question. Staying at the same amount after a hit is for ONE more spin and that is because of the possibilty of a back to back hit of that SAME number. If no second hit and not yet time to switch groups, then back down to $3 for *THAT* number.
Ken
((...with ONE exception...))
Also, lets say you do get a back to back hit. Keep it the same again for the next spin. Why? Possibly a back to back to back WIN. As stated, nothing worse that taking off your chips and it hits on the next spin.
Ken
Mr J i noticed the 4 groups are also grouped by colour. If your on one of the first 2 (red) and a largestring of black starts forming, woukd you transfer the bets and amounts to a black group or ride it out?
Bck
Quote from: MrJ on May 26, 02:20 PM 2015
((...with ONE exception...))
Also, lets say you do get a back to back hit. Keep it the same again for the next spin. Why? Possibly a back to back to back WIN. As stated, nothing worse that taking off your chips and it hits on the next spin.
Ken
Bought a used 31 foot cabin cruiser on 17 black going back to back to back...it happens...just wanna be heavy on it that second and third time for sure...woulda been a new one the way I was stacked all around if it coulda hit one more time...guess three was the charm
So, has anyone besides ignatus had a close look at this?
I would but "the roof is leakin' and the rain's fallin' on my head". Well, not really! Just very busy cleaning up after the deluge. It rained like a cow pissin' on a flat rock.
I am creating a "Redneck Tracking Sheet" to make a foolproof way of record-keeping.
Will report--sooner or later.
Samster
Quote from: TwoCatSam on May 28, 11:32 AM 2015
So, has anyone besides ignatus had a close look at this?
I would but "the roof is leakin' and the rain's fallin' on my head". Well, not really! Just very busy cleaning up after the deluge. It rained like a cow pissin' on a flat rock.
I am creating a "Redneck Tracking Sheet" to make a foolproof way of record-keeping.
Will report--sooner or later.
Samster
I tested past live euro spins
It performed well
But its made for american wheel and i havent had a chance to get back to casino to look
If anyone tests plz post results
Thanks
I tested about 200 spins all in plus
Guys, this is made for both 0 and 00 wheels. I would rather play on a 0 wheel if we had it here.
The sets of numbers are spaced out on BOTH wheels properly, either side A or side B of the wheel.
Reds/blacks, evens/odds & high/low.
Ken
Quote from: bckwrds on May 26, 09:32 PM 2015
Mr J i noticed the 4 groups are also grouped by colour. If your on one of the first 2 (red) and a largestring of black starts forming, woukd you transfer the bets and amounts to a black group or ride it out?
Bck
I would stick to the CURRENT set of numbers that I'm betting on but thats just me I guess. You could SWITCH in mid-stream if you wanted to. Like I said in past posts, some people change rules with certain methods because that is what they feel more comfortable doing. Myself? I would stay with my posted rules of play. Either way, best of luck to you if you choose to play.
Ken
@Ghost (Or anyone else.......)
So there will be no reason for doubt, someone pick a day and table from Spielbank and I will do my dead-level best to run some tests.
Sam
Great title, Ken. You've shared some good ones over the years. Thanks you!
I quickly lost the recommended bankroll. First two group was okay, I was up 150 units, then dozen 1 became extremely cold, especially the even numbers. I kept on spinning just for curiosity, there was no hit and I gave up after 60 missed spins.
Dozen 1? You mean the 5 numbers within dozen 1?
Ken
That's right. But not just the 5 numbers I played but all numbers in dozen 1 were cold, that's why I wrote that.
ati how many did the 1st doz go till ahit, could you have picked it up
I waited about 60 spins, and within those spins 1st dozen hit about 5 times, and only odd numbers. Since the 3rd group contains only even numbers, I did not have a hit.
It's more of a money management method. I'm sure the bet selection is no better than betting any random 5 numbers. In theory, 5 numbers should hit in every 7-8th spin. With progression, a player can survive for a long time without losing, but sometimes the 5 numbers will be cold numbers. That's why it is a good idea to switch numbers after a certain amount of loss.