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Title: Until It Sleeps
Post by: ignatus on Sep 07, 08:34 AM 2015
Well now, as I use to say "This seems to work", yes... it's a very slow but safe (?) grinder, two dozen bet.

STEP (1): -Wait until a dozen sleep for exactly 3 spins. Now, when that happen bet for it to continue to sleep a fourth spin, ONCE then STOP.

STEP (2): Wait for the sleeper to awaken, when it has woken up check -Has another dozen sleept for 3 spins? If this is true, do ONE more spin, if it's still asleep, bet for it to continue to sleep ONCE. This is because to prevent "New dozen hit" hit two times in a row.
If no other dozen has slept for a minimum of (3) spins go to Step (1)

Progression -none- FLATBET.

First tests played with 5u bets
Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: NextYear on Sep 07, 09:56 AM 2015
This is slow.
Wait and see how safe it is!

Ignatus is busy bee.

Thank you Ig!
Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: ignatus on Sep 07, 10:30 AM 2015
Quote from: nextyear on Sep 07, 09:56 AM 2015
This is slow.
Wait and see how safe it is!

Ignatus is busy bee.

Thank you Ig!

Yes, it's slow, but stable. :)
Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: ignatus on Sep 07, 10:30 AM 2015
Test 3
Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: ignatus on Sep 07, 10:34 AM 2015
RULES EDIT:

STEP (1): -Wait until a dozen sleep for exactly (4) spins. Now, when that happen bet for it to continue to sleep a fifth spin, ONCE then STOP.

STEP (2): After a win, wait for the sleeper to awaken, when it has woken up check -Has another dozen sleept for 4 spins? If this is true, do ONE more spin, if it's still asleep, bet for it to continue to sleep ONCE. This is because to prevent "New dozen hit" hit two times in a row.
If no other dozen has slept for a minimum of (3) spins go to Step (1)
Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: ignatus on Sep 07, 11:34 AM 2015
Test 4.

New trigger works fine!!!

Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: Tomla021 on Sep 07, 01:36 PM 2015
new twist on a way I play ,,,,, thanks
Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: MrJ on Sep 07, 02:13 PM 2015
The thing about charts (dont get me wrong, I'm all for them), you have to decide what your bottom line is, regarding your ACTUAL CASINO BR. Meaning, when you would leave the *CASINO* because of losing.

Lets say that BR is 1K. I actually think its much less than that for MOST here but I was rounding off.

As soon as your chart hits that minus 1K...in REALITY...you would be walking out the door. So, even if the chart shot up to plus 70 million dollars, makes no difference, you would be in your car. If I was doing fancy chart stuff, I would cap it at a REALISTIC stopping point (minus) and NOT continue with THAT chart, why would you? Remember, maybe even a cap of $800 is proper? Just my 2 cents fellas.

Ken
Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: ignatus on Sep 07, 02:29 PM 2015
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 07, 02:13 PM 2015
The thing about charts (dont get me wrong, I'm all for them), you have to decide what your bottom line is, regarding your ACTUAL CASINO BR. Meaning, when you would leave the *CASINO* because of losing.

Lets say that BR is 1K. I actually think its much less than that for MOST here but I was rounding off.

As soon as your chart hits that minus 1K...in REALITY...you would be walking out the door. So, even if the chart shot up to plus 70 million dollars, makes no difference, you would be in your car. If I was doing fancy chart stuff, I would cap it at a REALISTIC stopping point (minus) and NOT continue with THAT chart, why would you? Remember, maybe even a cap of $800 is proper? Just my 2 cents fellas.

Ken

Ofcourse, a wingoal and stoploss is needed. But that's up to everyone, i wish i had a good moneymanagement plan. But for this one wingoal should be very low.

if you have a good moneymanagement plan, please let me know Mr.J!

Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: MrJ on Sep 07, 02:46 PM 2015
Lets look at it realistically. My BRs are pretty high but we'll say $600 for the NORM?? What that translates into other currencies, I have NO IDEA? So, stopping at $750 (25%) and down to $200, STOP.

My point is in regards to the charts. So if we got to $750, (plus $150), any nice stats after that, means NOTHING in reality, we would be driving away. You cant look at a nice chart AFTER THE FACT and say...wow...I would of made 3K. Any testing I do here at home, I do under *PERFECT* casino conditions.

Ken
Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: ignatus on Sep 07, 02:57 PM 2015
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 07, 02:46 PM 2015
Lets look at it realistically. My BRs are pretty high but we'll say $600 for the NORM?? What that translates into other currencies, I have NO IDEA? So, stopping at $750 (25%) and down to $200, STOP.

My point is in regards to the charts. So if we got to $750, (plus $150), any nice stats after that, means NOTHING in reality, we would be driving away. You cant look at a nice chart AFTER THE FACT and say...wow...I would of made 3K. Any testing I do here at home, I do under *PERFECT* casino conditions.

Ken

ok thanks, that's pretty good moneymanagement, 20-25% wingoal sounds good

I'm thinking 

1u bet wingoal 20u
5u bets wingoal 100u
25u bets wingoal 500u...and so on(?) That's about 20%

Thanks

Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: MrJ on Sep 07, 03:21 PM 2015
Not just a win goal but also a stop loss in regards to both actual playing AND charts !!

Ken
Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: ignatus on Sep 07, 03:24 PM 2015
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 07, 03:21 PM 2015
Not just a win goal but also a stop loss in regards to both actual playing AND charts !!

Ken

Yes, ofcourse. Thanks for sharing your moneymanagement plan. I will use it if/when i play for real

:)
Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: MrJ on Sep 07, 04:09 PM 2015
Would you use it for your testing (charts)?

Ken
Title: Re: Until It Sleeps
Post by: ignatus on Sep 07, 04:18 PM 2015
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 07, 04:09 PM 2015
Would you use it for your testing (charts)?

Ken

Yes, with this strategy i've done it---playing with 5u bets, wingoal +100u & stoploss -100u. That's about 20% +/ -