Hello guys first post. Just recently started playing this roulette game at my local casino.
And have had GREAT success and I wanted to share.
I went a few times and got my butt kicked. Not knowing what I was doing and simply guessing what color to choose lol.
Researched all different types of "methods" and stuck to one I liked but modified it. I'm sure you guys have seen it before and I'm sure you guys will say "eventually you will lose it all" w.e.
This is what I do. And so far, so good obviously. Been at it for a couple months now going 3-5x a week.
First thing I did was set my GROUND RULES:
Simple: $285 is my bank roll and I will NEVER chase more than that after adding up all bets which I will show now.
My casino is 3min 500max.
I bet like this (gran martingale) Yes yes I know doomed! Lol
5( if I Win great repeat 5)
15 (if I lost previous bet double and add 5)
35(same as above)
75 same as above
155 same as above BUT this is my cut off. Won't bet any more if I lose. Add it all up u get $285 bank roll. If I lose I leave and cut my losses. Wasn't my night.
Now I know what your saying (what a moron lol) but let me explain what I do.
One I only bet on colors. (again dumb yes?)
But I will only play AFTER a streak of let's say Red has started. I will watch it hit red ATLEAST 4 times in a row Safer to wait on 5. Then I begin I my "Gran Martingale"
That was 5 free spins watching it land on red. Now I put 5 on black. Then 15 if I lost then 35 if I lost then 75 and lastly my 155 and pray lol.
So if I waited a 4 times streak of Red I now have seen 9 spins before I finally lost it all and lost my 285. And if I waited for a 5 red streak it means I saw 10 spins land and none landed on black. Terrible luck.
That's the thing though. From my short experience it HARDLY ever goes 9-10 times without landing on black. It's just not that common.
In my couple months I have been wiped out 3x. And lost $855.
So that's $5300-$855=I'm up $4,445!
Normally I set a goal to win 100$-$200 a night. One night I played extra long (6hrs and went up to 500$ in earnings) then got wiped out for my $285.
So, in conclusion: it works. You do lose SOMETIMES. But with my RULE to never pass the bet of $155 you MINIMIZE the casinos chance to really destroy you. I never bet the next step which would be $315 which is the last time anyways because the limit is $500. So I simply don't chase it. I will cut my loss and come another night and retry.
Now I know what will be said that eventually blabla. But they would need to wipe me out 15 times FIFTEEEEEEN! To get it all back from me. And in 3 months they have got me THREE times.
It's just math, probabilities. And so far "knocks on wood" I'm cleaning house.
Thanks for reading and now hit me with some knowledge! Should I walk away? Should I continue this as its obviously working so far. To me, it seems like this is the only "system" that you truly have a shot at winning and minimizing your loss.
Let me add; there has been times where I didn't bet past the $45 dollar bet and just watched to see what would happen: and simply restarted at $5, especially if I'm Up already. And even then it never went to 10spins without seeing the other color.
Js2k1985, you are VERY VERY lucky guy! I personaly saw 19 reds in a row one time and 12 or 15 in a row much more times.
I would say keep going. Of course 10 or more comes . I know a guy who play something similar. But your mm sounds good. A bust you got back in 2 sessions. The day you lose half of your profit then stop. As long your winning...keep going. Each session you know how much you sure have already (2650 and counting) ...
Good luck
Very well done Jsk :thumbsup:
And welcome to the forum.
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Sounds like you are having a great run of luck and your dealers break the streaks before you go bust......
I would try to vary the play and have a backup plan method.
Maybe an EC game that uses inside numbers?
I agree at this point keep on playing till you hit a big bump.....maybe the luck will continue for awhile ....limit a loss to 1 or 2 k
You are ahead of the game now
Going forward have a stop loss of 1 or 2k like tomla suggests and you should win more sessions then lose
If u lose 1k leave the casino
grand marty is playing with fire--but in gambling what isnt ? after 5 losses a cut off so some discipline is involved---I wonder if someone tested 1000000 spins with those cutoffs start betting after 5 in a row of one color and quit after 5 grand marty losses how it would test out, I would guess as a loser but I am not sure I haven't seen a test like that
Quote from: Tomla021 on Sep 28, 02:19 PM 2015
grand marty is playing with fire--but in gambling what isnt ? after 5 losses a cut off so some discipline is involved---I wonder if someone tested 1000000 spins with those cutoffs start betting after 5 in a row of one color and quit after 5 grand marty losses how it would test out, I would guess as a loser but I am not sure I haven't seen a test like that
Hmmm...I'm curious too.
I saw someone on youtube
A 3 step marty. Lose all 3 reset back to 1
1,2,4 if lose at 4 reset
Swore by it
May work on 18 numbers evenly distributed on wheel. Lol
i used to do something similiar in baccarat but never tracked it, was a side bet after a 5 or longer p streak if another came out to 6 I would bet against it 25 75 150 300 500 - i remember losing it once but maybe I lost it more , im not sure to be honest
just for fun I checked 1000 spins in zumma 15,000.. I bet against any 4 in a row of a color bbbb , rrrr. The betting was:
25 + 25
75+50
150+50
300+50
-----------
loss =$550
I won $1925 and lost one time -$550=+$1375
Maybe we are so ingrained to think that marty or grand marty is stupid that we discount the idea. Like everyone else I have seen 19 red in a row or 12 in a row etc.
any testers? It would seem easy enough to run 1000's of spins vs various lengths of martys and or grand martys ?? who knows maybe a limited marty could work in the right situation
Quote from: Tomla021 on Sep 29, 07:20 PM 2015
any testers? It would seem easy enough to run 1000's of spins vs various lengths of martys and or grand martys ?? who knows maybe a limited marty could work in the right situation
I can do that. just send the spins and the possible lengths we want it to be tested.
@Tomla021
I was mentioning the very same scenario to Atlantis the other day.
If we know that there are going to be a certain number of losses in a row, then instead of just flat bed recovery,
we should attempt +1 or even +2 on those loses! (when in recovery mode)
A Grand Day Out indeed
Best way to play marty in my opinion is a 3 step marty
1 2 4
If lose all 3 reset to 1
Start after 4 in a row
B
B
B
B
Now bet for R ith a 3 step
Youll win 99 percent
Or screw waiting just bet continuously 1 2 4
May be a long time before u hit a wall
I think the original post here would do best. And we can always go in after a streak of course . I think it would be very intresting to test this . And my feeling says it will profit. Hmmm
If we could get the " in a row streaks" then we would could easily calculate what's the best trigger .
RRR . ..
RRRR ...
RRRRR....
Etc
I agree denzie .....a 4-5 step marty or grand marty with a definate cutoff-- I might test a couple of thousand more spins tomorrow-- It just seems too simple
Quote from: Tomla021 on Sep 29, 07:20 PM 2015
just for fun I checked 1000 spins in zumma 15,000..
loss =$550
I won $1925 and lost one time -$550=+$1375
Maybe we are so ingrained to think that marty or grand marty is stupid that we discount the idea. who knows maybe a limited marty could work in the right situation
Fully agree!!
And thx for testing
I did some experimenting with this in the past using a 4 step Marty, the way I played it was to pick a colour and stick to it. Bet 1 2 4 8, if lose all 4 reset to 1 and start again. Any win on any step reset to 1. I didn't use any trigger and just stuck to one colour throughout. Over 500,000 spins it came out in a big minus.
I don't have the spreadsheet anymore, but it wasn't a good result.
When I ran it through again using the same numbers but betting the other colour, simular result.
I good bet selection could change all that I suppose, but once the hole is dug it is hard to get back out.
It isn't until you lose everything that you work out what really fails.
Quote from: helena on Sep 29, 10:37 PM 2015
I did some experimenting with this in the past using a 4 step Marty, the way I played it was to pick a colour and stick to it. I didn't use any trigger and just stuck to one colour throughout. Over 500,000 spins it came out in a big minus
That is what I would expect. No doubt. But I'm really curious about waiting a trigger...or a back to back rfh and then go in etc...
Quote from: denzie on Sep 29, 11:06 PM 2015
That is what I would expect. No doubt. But I'm really curious about waiting a trigger...or a back to back rfh and then go in etc...
I don't do progressions anymore denzie. Roulette is beatable flat betting.
You can test simple progressions on testmystrategy.com
I've tested 5 step grand marty the other day for 100k spins, but it was a steady loser.
Quote from: helena on Sep 29, 11:19 PM 2015
I don't do progressions anymore denzie. Roulette is beatable flat betting.
Agreed!
Quote from: helena on Sep 29, 11:19 PM 2015
I don't do progressions anymore denzie. Roulette is beatable flat betting.
This is funny statment - i have spent more then 10 years at gambling forums and have never seen a winning method flat betting!
You are not better of flat betting then using a progression, both lose money in the long run.
Quote from: ego on Sep 30, 04:35 AM 2015
This is funny statment - i have spent more then 10 years at gambling forums and have never seen a winning method flat betting!
You are not better of flat betting then using a progression, both lose money in the long run.
Maybe you need glasses :lol:
Quote from: ego on Sep 30, 04:35 AM 2015
This is funny statment - i have spent more then 10 years at gambling forums and have never seen a winning method flat betting!
You are not better of flat betting then using a progression, both lose money in the long run.
I read the same things all the time and disagree.
There is two kind of members when it comes to flat betting.
1) One show method and it works sometimes.
2) Comes with empty claims and empty words about flat betting with no example.
To this i can add there does not exist any secret method.
No one can turn a game with negative expectation into a positive game.
Cheers
Quote from: ego on Sep 30, 06:32 AM 2015
There is two kind of members when it comes to flat betting.
1) One show method and it works sometimes.
2) Comes with empty claims and empty words about flat betting with no example.
To this i can add there does not exist any secret method.
No one can turn a game with negative expectation into a positive game.
Cheers
There are all kinds of people on gambling forums, 3 types are:
1. greedy lazy gamblers looking for a free lunch (majority)
2. those that know and don't see the need to prove themselves, but help those that are willing to work if they can without giving away all their secrets
3. those that try to use shame tactics to gode others into proving their claims
Then there are the others that just do not have enough of an open mind to grasp that they might be wrong. :girl_to:
This may be my last post, if it is, those that know my ideas work, you have my email address, you know who you are. :thumbsup:
@Helena.
Are you taking a break from the forum Helena?
Quote from: helena on Sep 30, 07:01 AM 2015
There are all kinds of people on gambling forums, 3 types are:
1. greedy lazy gamblers looking for a free lunch (majority)
2. those that know and don't see the need to prove themselves, but help those that are willing to work if they can without giving away all their secrets
3. those that try to use shame tactics to gode others into proving their claims
Then there are the others that just do not have enough of an open mind to grasp that they might be wrong. :girl_to:
This may be my last post, if it is, those that know my ideas work, you have my email address, you know who you are. :thumbsup:
The forum becomes counter productive when posters claim to have a winning strategy but will not share it or have the belief hey i worked for it im not giving you a free lunch. Better for those posters not to enter a forum of people seeking a winning strategy
Very counter productive
Thats why those people take heat
Not everyone can share and be as helpful as atlantis, glc, and guys like that. If that were the case the forum would be a gold mine
You have people that come here say they have something and dont share it. Then someone like GLC who spends god knows how long writing an informative post on a strategy with examples and bet selection.
Couldnt get that from the "hey i worked for it you cant have my free lunch" people
I vote for more posters who engage in conversation and are helpful then the people "haha i have something and u cant have it" kindegarten style
Quote from: Chrisbis on Sep 30, 07:22 AM 2015
@Helena.
Are you taking a break from the forum Helena?
Wasn't planning to Chrisbis, but if the self appointed Mayor and Forrest Gump (sorry Forrest, no offence meant) of RouletteForum.cc has his way he would like me banned.
Quote from: ego on Sep 30, 06:32 AM 2015
There is two kind of members when it comes to flat betting.
1) One show method and it works sometimes.
2) Comes with empty claims and empty words about flat betting with no example.
To this i can add there does not exist any secret method.
No one can turn a game with negative expectation into a positive game.
Cheers
Exactly
What i seek is a system with a high hit rate where you can get in and get out
Before the variance gets ya
I have plenty now from my years here
Years? Then you got your method for sure. There is really good stuff here.
But most are looking for something easy..fast...and if possible with no losing sessions.
All the ones I play with success takes patience. But they work though. I get my share of losses too. But my graphs going to the north east....
Till recently I started some new approach with something that's posted here for years. My br grows damn fast. Point being...there are money makers under our noses here. But of course you still need to control yourself and use some gut feeling.
And yes flat.
Quote from: helena on Sep 30, 05:05 AM 2015
I read the same things all the time and disagree.
Seriously!!! We are tolerating this again............right after the whole PA debacle? :question:
Helena (Falkor, Kimo, PA, etc), why are you here if you have a winning system?
Quote from: thelaw on Sep 30, 08:37 AM 2015
Seriously!!! We are tolerating this again............right after the whole PA debacle? :question:
Helena (Falkor, Kimo, PA, etc), why are you here if you have a winning system?
Thats the point ive been making for a looooong time. If you have a system and come to this forum and are secretive expect heat
Why gloat that you have something?
To cause disruption?
"Email me you know who you are"- statements like that are also counter productive. That could have been PMed
Why say "people just want a free lunch" . uh excuse me, this is a roulette forum. We are here to discuss roulette and strategies. Not to say we have something but not share
Counter productive
And no, im not talking about helena. Im talking in general. But, if the shoe fits.....
Here is what I propose :
Once you claim to have a winning system, but refuse to share it, you are ignored on all threads moving forward, because clearly you are a trolling. :thumbsup:
And the private forum you invited me to is for what RouletteGhost? Don't be a hypocrite....
You have been on my ignore list for a long time thelaw. You contribute nothing useful with your negativity.
I hope it is your last post Helena, because we don't tolerate nonsense.
We need less members with empty words and empty claims, what we want is productive members.
Cheers
Quote from: helena on Sep 30, 08:59 AM 2015
And the private forum you invited me to is for what RouletteGhost? Don't be a hypocrite....
You have been on my ignore list for a long time thelaw. You contribute nothing useful with your negativity.
Its not private. All the contributors from here are there. Even invited mods a way back
I didnt want guests to see lankys system thats all
Members only. Free. Not private if one JOINS
So there you have it. Im not a hypocrite. Every single contributor on this forum was invited and most r there. Silly person you
I put a lot of work into laying out lankys system and doing my best to make images to describe it.
So the nice guy that i am i mad a forum specifically for lankys method. I did so to share with the good contributors.
What have you done?
So ooooh. .....how about that marty? I'm still curious on those tests :)
I know Lanky from the past and i would like to read about hes method you mention.
Is the forum Roulette Insanaty or is it another forum - PM me.
Many Thanks
I agree with Ghost..How is a forum private if it's open to the public and anyone can join? Just because he doesnt blaber about it and beg people to join doesnt make it private.I believe another reason he started it was to eliminate alot of the bickering and BS that seeps into this forum and makes an otherwise productive forum counterproductive.A breath of fresh air to have a forum that cuts to the chase and every single post is productive post about roulette with no riddles,bible versus,poems,fairy tales,or guessing games.It was needed.
Quote from: onetaste on Sep 30, 09:32 AM 2015
I agree with Ghost..How is a forum private if it's open to the public and anyone can join? Just because he doesnt blaber about it and beg people to join doesnt make it private.I believe another reason he started it was to eliminate alot of the bickering and BS that seeps into this forum and makes an otherwise productive forum counterproductive.A breath of fresh air to have a forum that cuts to the chase and every single post is productive post about roulette with no riddles,bible versus,poems,fairy tales,or guessing games.It was needed.
Thats why i made it man. For the exact reasons u just said
No bull. Just straight up good contributors
Quote from: thelaw on Sep 30, 08:55 AM 2015
Here is what I propose :
Once you claim to have a winning system, but refuse to share it, you are ignored on all threads moving forward, because clearly you are a trolling. :thumbsup:
Denzie was one of those P.A. Eureka guys, stating 32 W & 1 L (because he made a mistake) does this rule apply
to him ?
O0
Quote from: ddarko on Sep 30, 09:35 AM 2015
Denzie was one of those P.A. Eureka guys, stating 32 W & 1 L (because he made a mistake) does this rule apply
to him ?
O0
Did he share the system?
If not, then yes. he has lost credibility.
If yes, then no problem........... :thumbsup:
Quote from: ddarko on Sep 30, 09:35 AM 2015
Denzie was one of those P.A. Eureka guys, stating 32 W & 1 L (because he made a mistake) does this rule apply
to him ?
O0
You want problems Mr I not showed nothing at all?
I suggest you keep it at pm's only.
definition of private
"belonging to or for the use of one particular person or group of people only"
Can a guest read what's on your forum RG ?
If the answer is no, it's private ;)
O0
Quote from: thelaw on Sep 30, 09:39 AM 2015
Did he share the system?
If not, then yes. he has lost credibility.
If yes, then no problem........... :thumbsup:
I did shared it with those who reacted positive. Those who responded still have great success with it . Daily. But no, I'm not sharing it with people who can't find the answer or are to busy attacking another.
If this makes me lose credibility that's just fine by me. I'm here to find more ideas. Not to win a popularity contest .
I've posted several systems that work. I think I did my part....now I'm waiting to see yours.....
Quote from: ddarko on Sep 30, 09:47 AM 2015
definition of private
"belonging to or for the use of one particular person or group of people only"
Can a guest read what's on your forum RG ?
If the answer is no, it's private ;)
O0
Its not private to contributors. I invited most from here
Many many members there
All who are contributors here. It was simple if u contributed here without riddles and made an effort u were invited.
And thats right no guest access. U have to register
As u can see i STILL share strategies here
Ddarko dont dare start attacking me. U spend way too much time here without contributing anything but the afroman
Quote from: denzie on Sep 30, 09:50 AM 2015
I did shared it with those who reacted positive. Those who responded still have great success with it . Daily. But no, I'm not sharing it with people who can't find the answer or are to busy attacking another.
If this makes me lose credibility that's just fine by me. I'm here to find more ideas. Not to win a popularity contest .
I've posted several systems that work. I think I did my part....now I'm waiting to see yours.....
I'm confused.........if you have several systems that work, why did you get involved with PA's thread. I would assume one system is good enough to beat the game.
If you have a system, why not make millions and give some to charity? :question:
Side note: see how counter productive it is discussing people not sharing and keeping secrets.
Case in point
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 30, 09:51 AM 2015
Ddarko dont dare start attacking me. U spend way too much time here without contributing anything but the afroman
You stated your forum wasn't private, it
IS, it's not attacking somebody when they post something incorrect
and someone (me in this case) attempts to correct it.....
I know your
the giving member here & I'm just some nothing pleb, but as your not a mod
be a good boy & don't go telling me what I can & cannot do ;)
thank you
O0
Quote from: thelaw on Sep 30, 09:58 AM 2015
I'm confused.........if you have several systems that work, why did you get involved with PA's thread. I would assume one system is good enough to beat the game.
If you have a system, why not make millions and give some to charity? :question:
Why? Cuz he made me curious. And luckily I didn't lost intrest in his boring preaching. Millions? It takes money to make money. Nobody gonna get rich overnight with gambling. That's impossible.
You ever wondered why the ones who make money are very silent?
Soooo back on topic pls...it's very disrespectful to the thread
Thx
Quote from: helena on Sep 30, 07:01 AM 2015
There are all kinds of people on gambling forums, 3 types are:
1. greedy lazy gamblers looking for a free lunch (majority)
2. those that know and don't see the need to prove themselves, but help those that are willing to work if they can without giving away all their secrets
3. those that try to use shame tactics to gode others into proving their claims
Then there are the others that just do not have enough of an open mind to grasp that they might be wrong. :girl_to:
This may be my last post, if it is, those that know my ideas work, you have my email address, you know who you are. :thumbsup:
Theres another type
People who come in under different names but forget the mods can see your IP.
Quote from: ddarko on Sep 30, 10:04 AM 2015
You stated your forum wasn't private, it IS, it's not attacking somebody when they post something incorrect
and someone (me in this case) attempts to correct it.....
I know your the giving member here & I'm just some nothing pleb, but as your not a mod
be a good boy & don't go telling me what I can & cannot do ;)
thank you
O0
Shhhh
Shush
Shhhhh
Quote from: Turner on Sep 30, 10:33 AM 2015
Theres another type
People who come in under different names but forget the mods can see your IP.
Lol!
I guess helena is a reincarnation? I kne:ww ittttt
I'm certain. ..............
[reveal] I just lost 5 minutes of my life reading the last two pages! [/reveal]
Quote from: Turner on Sep 30, 10:33 AM 2015
Theres another type
People who come in under different names but forget the mods can see your IP.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 30, 10:35 AM 2015
Lol!
I guess helena is a reincarnation?
Sorry Turner, I am who I am, working as one of the minority sex in IT, I know what mods can see. If I wanted to, you would not know who I am. 8)
Your forum hides no secrets from me RG. >:D
Quote from: helena on Sep 30, 10:49 AM 2015
Sorry Turner, I am who I am, working as one of the minority sex in IT, I know what mods can see. If I wanted to, you would not know who I am. 8)
Your forum hides no secrets from me RG. >:D
Theres some mentally sick people on these forums
I wouldnt doubt you were on my forum under another name. Wouldnt surprise me
Thanks for uncovering what u just did turner
People like u put such a damper on these forums
So sad
I made a thread showing petespin scammed someone. And you defended him. Makes sense now. Trash defends trash
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 30, 10:53 AM 2015
I wouldnt doubt you were on my forum under another name. Wouldnt surprise me
Or of course being in IT she could just hack it ?
I kne: itt......
O0
Quote from: Chrisbis on Sep 30, 10:48 AM 2015
I'm certain. ..............
[reveal] I just lost 5 minutes of my life reading the last two pages! [/reveal]
Agreed..if this post doesnt go back on topic....whatever that was...I will probablyl lock it
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 30, 10:53 AM 2015
I made a thread showing petespin scammed someone. And you defended him. Makes sense now. Trash defends trash
That statement just shows how dumb you really are, go and have a read of the thread and let it sink in properly.
I didn't defend him at all. I pulled you up for headlining without giving the full story. Go and read the original thread, the person who made the the scam accusation has not yet publicly admitted he actually got what he paid for, but like you would rather accuse and then not apologise when he is
wrong.
Quote from: helena on Sep 30, 11:04 AM 2015
That statement just shows how dumb you really are, go and have a read of the thread and let it sink in properly.
I didn't defend him at all. I pulled you up for headlining without giving the full story. Go and read the original thread, the person who made the the scam accusation has not yet publicly admitted he actually got what he paid for, but like you would rather accuse and then not apologise when he is wrong.
Cool
Apologize for what?
Google petespin. Hes on all forums with greek posters promoting eachother
Several people said they were scammed
Get a clue. If you cant see hes a scammer then who is the dumb one?
One does not come to a forum and have under a 100 posts and act like you. Should have known you were a duplicate IP
Quote from: Turner on Sep 30, 11:01 AM 2015
Agreed..if this post doesnt go back on topic....whatever that was...I will probablyl lock it
Lock it? Very disrespectful! Just erase all the fighting. Easy. You did it with Ignatus about his words of 9/11....so I suggest you do the same here.
the truth is about in the middle ,if progressions really help , meaning not to double up your bet on every spin but when u find the right time , just occasionally, and only when your odds turn to your favor , there are signs that show u what and when to do so , if anyone s have the ability to 'read' his session and to compare with one previous then u re in the right side , its that simple ,now u ll said but its random, i ll answer seems to be ,its not really , nothing its really random in this world ,everything caused by something , in roulette this happened by dealers , as soon u ll realize all the above , u ll increase your odds to win .
Now now all,, lets stay cool!
Roulette forum
Where non roulette contributors all of a sudden become master posters when fighting begins
Put that heart into posting about roulette
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 30, 11:06 AM 2015
Apologize for what?
Get a clue. If you cant see hes a scammer then who is the dumb one?
Please point me to one thread
where I actually stated I did not think he was a scammer. Just show me one sentence.
You are making accusations again, and you are wrong....as usual.
Quote from: helena on Sep 30, 11:24 AM 2015
Please point me to one thread where I actually stated I did not think he was a scammer. Just show me one sentence.
You are making accusations again, and you are wrong....as usual.
Less than 100 posts. More heart into being argumentative then roulette
Typicl past poster who comes back under a different name
Give it up already
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 30, 11:26 AM 2015
Less than 100 posts. More heart into being argumentative then roulette
Typicl past poster who comes back under a different name
Give it up already
Typical answer I would expect form a bully like you. You know you are wrong, just as eveyone on this forum does.
Silly me arguing with a fool.