Hi Guys,
Just going to shoot the breeze with this one, I think its a beautiful system, both pretty reliable at delivering a decent return while standing strong without busting out!
Its quite simple really and only ever involves a 2 bet progression.
Basically we are betting on 17 numbers and a colour. We leave the zero untouched as well as the last number spun i.e. if 9 was the last number we would bet on black and the remaining numbers excluding 9 and the zero. Note: must be a table offering la partage.
Now, the stakes involved (for me anyway) is £2 on 17 numbers, and £36 on the colour (we bet the colour as opposed to 35 numbers, so when the zero comes in as it will, we get £18 back on our progression!!) When we lose on the first spin we simply chip up across the board, that is (depending on your initial stake) £72 on 17 numbers and £1,296 on the colour. The idea as you've probably worked out is to make £2 on each cycle (£18 plus £2 on occasions).
Total stake required to run a £2 version of this is £2,590......it will take a brutal sequence to bust out, for example, if 9 is the last number out, to lose we would need 9 to come in a further 2 times or a combination of 9 and the zero!! Pretty long odds.
Take into consideration that 3 of the same number coming out consecutively is 50653/1, a combination of 2 numbers (to bust us) i.e. 9 0 9 is still 6332/1......its a slow burn with not a massive risk but if you are to utilize this as I have been doing over hour long sessions expect to be in profit.
Alternatively you could simply sit down and run this progression a small 30 times a day, which would take around 15-20 minutes, you will easily make a nice £60 per day, and that is a nice return by anybody's standards.
Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
If you lose, even though its unlikely, how long will it take to win back the 2 grand
Welcome
Hi RG,
I have yet to lose using this system, though tbf, it has not run the rigors of XXXXXX spins yet.
It will take roughly around 1000 cycles (factoring in la partage)
Though the idea is to shear the sheep many times, a few minutes a day should (unless you are incredibly unlucky) see a steading profit build.
Thanks
C
This sounds intriguing. I'm not too knowledgeable when it comes to converting different currencies in systems to the US dollar. RG,you have any ideas on what the bets would be in US Dollar?
Welcome to the forum Charlie2772
Live table B & M or online plays?
@Onetaste
Why do you need to convert?
Its same same just play in Dollars.
Actual rate at the moment is £1 = $1,52 currently today.
Cheers
Quote from: onetaste on Oct 06, 04:58 PM 2015
This sounds intriguing. I'm not too knowledgeable when it comes to converting different currencies in systems to the US dollar. RG,you have any ideas on what the bets would be in US Dollar?
1 British pound = 1.52313 U.S. dollars
Quote from: Chrisbis on Oct 06, 05:02 PM 2015
Live table B & M or online plays?
Is there a online wheel that offers la partage ?
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Don't know!?
Quote from: Chrisbis on Oct 06, 06:46 PM 2015
Don't know!?
Jeez..... that many ? Sorry for the dumbass question...... :-[ :-[ :-[
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Quote from: Chrisbis on Oct 06, 05:02 PM 2015
Welcome to the forum Charlie2772
Live table B & M or online plays?
B&M isn't really practical, its perfect for online....both Live and RnG
What do you think of the system?
I will have to try it!............ 8)
Or...as darko would say.........
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Where do you play Charlie?.............(Since your in Pounds sterling)
Quote from: Chrisbis on Oct 06, 07:42 PM 2015
Where do you play Charlie?.............(Since your in Pounds sterling)
I play on Betvictor mostly, its ok
What does this look like on a non zero table?
Quote from: GLC on Oct 06, 09:57 PM 2015
What does this look like on a non zero table?
I think this would look bulletproof on a non zero table :twisted:
But the only non zero wheel I was aware of was on betfair, it has since been removed.
Limits are seriously capped to nullify such systems.
My 2 cents. Leaving aside colours etc, this is a way of playing 35 numbers, if you look through it. As you rightly said, the simple bust sequence is a number coming 3 times in a row.
Now, please refer to the picture in the first post here.
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16053.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16053.0)
One might argue that it is rare.
I have just run this through the 3 sets of 10,000 spin archive collected from real wheel data that i have. A sample from the first set is as below.
3 in a row - 10
2 in a row - 282
1 in a row - 9396
I will leave it to you to do the rest of the calculations.
Quote from: Charlie2772 on Oct 06, 04:16 PM 2015
Take into consideration that 3 of the same number coming out consecutively is 50653/1, a combination of 2 numbers (to bust us) i.e. 9 0 9 is still 6332/1
You are right on 3 number coming out consecutively with lots of odds. But this odds will be applicable for us only if you are betting from the word go and bet all the 3 times. As you are betting from the 2nd position in this sequence of 3 numbers coming in a row, this odds will not be applicable to your bets.
A simple example to explain is a combination of two spins in ECs. RR, RB, BR, BB. For a sequence RR to occur it is 1/4. However if your bet starts on the 2nd position, instead of 1st, i.e., after seeing an R appear, it will become 1/2 as the only two possibilities are RB and RR. BR and BB are not possible at this stage.
A final note. Look into this thread from the great Twocatsam.
link:://betselection.cc/general-discussion/five-strikes/msg9427/ (link:://betselection.cc/general-discussion/five-strikes/msg9427/)
Quote from: Priyanka on Oct 07, 05:41 AM 2015
Now, please refer to the picture in the first post here.
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16053.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16053.0)
wow! that's astonishing, really is.....that's nearly 70million to 1.
I get what your saying that odds are not applicable to our bets (i.e. from the 2nd position) just like if 20 reds come in, chances of black on spin 21 is still 50/50.
But surly, you would rather come in of the back of the proceeding number rather than another number.
Its amazing that the RnG results show 3 in a row coming in 10 times!! if we extrapolate that, we are looking at 3 in a row coming in 50 times from 50,000 results........you know the true odds are 50000/1 (give or take). But these findings basically say the odds is 1000/1??
Yes 3 in a row does happen, I have seen it a few times, but it is a very rare sight. The idea of this system is to sit down and make a small profit on a daily basis. I have yet to lose, any lose at this stage would still see me in profit.
Great system from twocatsam btw!! really nice and not the large stakes with the martingale element
Thanks for your feedback