Hi,
My first post - I registered to specifically ask about the roulette systems that are available on Ebay as their feedback system is always a good guide as to the profitability of any systems.
It's easy to spot the scams due to lack of feedback or the general description.
I know that feedback can be falsified by friends/family in on the scam, however some of these guys have hundreds of positives!
Has anyone had any experience of a specific listing for a Spin and Win Roulette System?
Also, on another point I've got an unlimited trial of some Russian prediction software entitled Wheel Daemon which seems to have been around for years - I suspect the software is NOT working out hundreds of algorithms on each spin - just interested in anyone's experiences.
Thanks for taking the time to read my first post.
Nick
Wealth of information here Nick The Greek.
Don't entertain ebay system sellers.
People who sell care about one thing and one thing only: people paying them
If the system worked they would not be selling it
Thanks, RouletteGhost, for taking the time to post a reply - I've only just started looking through the posts and as you say there is so much info here - looks great.
One observation regarding the two systems that I mentioned (Spin To Win and Wheel Daemon) is there is no negative web content for either of them - hence me asking the question on the forum.
From research over the past few months I've noticed the scams and failed systems are always commented on by review sites and forums such as this one leading me to think that maybe there are systems that do make consistent money out there, however no one wants to shout about them as it would 'kill the golden goose' so to speak.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Nick
Wheel daemon has negative feedback
Be careful. Being a new member and asking about a specific system makes it seem like you are promoting it
Weve seen this a lot
Wheel Daemon is a scam. >:D
Quote from: Nick-the-Greek on Oct 21, 06:42 AM 2015
Thanks, RouletteGhost, for taking the time to post a reply - I've only just started looking through the posts and as you say there is so much info here - looks great.
One observation regarding the two systems that I mentioned (Spin To Win and Wheel Daemon) is there is no negative web content for either of them - hence me asking the question on the forum.
From research over the past few months I've noticed the scams and failed systems are always commented on by review sites and forums such as this one leading me to think that maybe there are systems that do make consistent money out there, however no one wants to shout about them as it would 'kill the golden goose' so to speak.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Nick
I purchased two of his systems a couple of years ago, and they both failed miserably in early testing.
I still receive emails to this day about his new systems.......even after unsubscribing from his list.
Scam!!! :sad2:
The scam here should be obvious even before purchasing as RG said.
If you have one system that beats roulette, then why do you need a dozen systems to beat the game! :question:
I knew from the beginning. Just played along
Another greek scam artist
My wife is greek. But hot damn remind me never to conduct business in greece. Greece breeds some shady people
Every greek the past few months has a scam attached to them. Not racist. Just truth.
Dear friend there is no existing system, strategy or software to beat roulette. I have quite experience on this. Don't trust any of these they will not help you long run.
why u focus to the greeks?, and u re not talking about for example m.silverstone who is an american or the other guy who sells his system 10000$ !! few years ago , he was american aswell , and i can say for too many other guys from everywhere around the world , if u thinking trhat way u far away from the truth , and finally what is scam and what is not ? do u want a system to win ALL the time and to beat roulette long term , u will not find it coz they [gambling industryu] are very well informed about everything new that will appear, to the point to make me believe that all roulette types are electronics !! dont be fooled, they dont know how to face the ap players ? or any other systems players? even here there are guys that work for casinos , just think .....
I dont focus on greeks in an all and all bad way
Simply observing many roulette scammers come from greece. Such as you. Am i right? Or am i right?
the only thing i have to say is that anything i ve sell its not fake , and iam the one where speak the truth , if there are guys like a guy that when recieve my slot system went to casino with 100e in his pocket to beat slots! and then mail me crying that hes lost his entire br!!! , what else to say ? idiots are idiots i cant change that !!
Thanks for all your messages.
I'm trying not to read too much into them but I hope that the references to scams are not aimed at me but in fact to the software packages I mentioned.
I can confirm that I'm not promoting any software or system in any shape or form - I'm just fascinated by the roulette wheel principal - this is a hobby of mine not a business opportunity.
You guys get your knickers in a twist quickly when a newbie joins in! Is this normal on this forum?
Nick
Quote from: Nick-the-Greek on Oct 22, 09:05 AM 2015
Thanks for all your messages.
I'm trying not to read too much into them but I hope that the references to scams are not aimed at me but in fact to the software packages I mentioned.
I can confirm that I'm not promoting any software or system in any shape or form - I'm just fascinated by the roulette wheel principal - this is a hobby of mine not a business opportunity.
You guys get your knickers in a twist quickly when a newbie joins in! Is this normal on this forum?
Nick
Lots of scammers lately trying to come aboard so we are careful
I will repeat: when someones first post is about a system for sale its a red flag. Understandably. Hope you understand
Okay understood. :)
Answer to Nick, it is not problem with system or software you use, main problem is rigged casino software, when ever you play online, casino software will avoid your bets, detects your system until you lose more and more, that is only true about online casinos. So we need to deal with rigged software, HOW TO beat rigged casino software? :)
Thanks MJ - I clocked that one very quickly when I started my research - I now avoid RNG like the plague as the casinos are totally in control of that.
There are so many 'live' online tables now that it is easy to play without relying on automated casino software.
Multiple 'live' tables on Betfair are great if you are looking for triggers as their 'lobby' shows a number of tables and last few spins all on one page and you can drop in to play with just one click.
What style of play do you use? Any strategies?
nick are u sure that on live dealer things getting better? not so sure even there, well depending the casino , but be aware ,my advice is to play only in live tables and only when the table is busy enough, in internet can u see other guys play at the same time as u do? the answer is NO! believe what u see !
Hi RG - I'm getting progression out of my system at the moment starting with even money bets after 6 repeats (very low 10p starting bet) - works okay as long as you stick with a stop loss.
I've traded shares in the past and this was my downfall - always hanging on in there until the last minute to get the extra price rise only to be hit by a fall. Too greedy!!
I'm also testing single bets on sleepers after 74 spins.
May all sound very amateurish compared to some of the systems I've read about over the past few days on here but I like to experience it all from the bottom up and with the lowest stakes I get used to placing bets and the feel for the live table.
Nick
Hi Pete, good point - you see the chat going on with the dealer via the chat box but it's true you cannot see other players!
Makes you think eh!
Nick
Mods please note
Nick the greek has a friend who started a similar thread at VLS
Im sure you already know what this guys all about though.
link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20008.msg153867;topicseen#msg153867 (link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20008.msg153867;topicseen#msg153867)
Hi RG - is VLS linked to this forum?
What did you mean by - 'I'm sure you already know what this guys all about though'?
Nick
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 22, 01:58 PM 2015
Mods please note
Nick the greek has a friend who started a similar thread at VLS
Im sure you already know what this guys all about though.
link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20008.msg153867;topicseen#msg153867 (link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20008.msg153867;topicseen#msg153867)
RG....
Please stop the Kangaroo Court malarkey
I am a MOD in VLS also, and I know who posts there.
I appreciate your wish to keep scammers out of the forum but please leave it to the Mods.
click
Report to Moderator, as you recently have done.
I like that route much more than this way.
Thanks RG
Sorry guys I find this forum very hostile - not what I was expecting and I just don't have the time for such childish attitudes - so much for a community helping each other out eh!
My wife wonders why I'm not interested in Facebook or Twitter well I think I've just proved a point - you will not be hearing from me again.
I wish you all good luck in your gambling ventures.
Best regards
Nick
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Quote from: Nick-the-Greek on Oct 23, 04:03 AM 2015
Sorry guys I find this forum very hostile - not what I was expecting and I just don't have the time for such childish attitudes - so much for a community helping each other out eh!
My wife wonders why I'm not interested in Facebook or Twitter well I think I've just proved a point - you will not be hearing from me again.
I wish you all good luck in your gambling ventures.
Best regards
Nick
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Not everyone on here is hostile. Just a select entitled few that not everyone agrees with.
Another happy customer.
There are 5 Mods including Steve.
Between us...We can seperate the wheat from the chaff without budding Sherlocks
Report to mod...if you are unsure.
Ive made this very clear several times.
And relax......
Quote from: helena on Oct 23, 05:25 AM 2015
Not everyone on here is hostile. Just a select entitled few that not everyone agrees with.
I gave him a hard time becauase his 1st post was about ebay systems for sale
Not only that
The 2nd reason is a new member at vls made a post about system for sale and nick the greek responded "what noones interested"
He was here to scam people and sell
From now on i wont respond to these people
Maybe ignoring them will be better anyway
His mission was to promote wheel daemon. So clear.