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Title: Legendary System
Post by: ignatus on Nov 18, 12:02 AM 2015
Playing with 6 streets, this gives the highest probability to win in roulette ~50%, this combined with betting the two last dozens and a good trigger makes up this Legendary System.

TRIGGER- Wait for a "new dozen" to hit. A "new dozen" is the new third dozen hit (from the most recent two last dozens hit) After a "new dozen" has hit, place bets: -bet all streets in the two last dozen hit, all except the most recent hit streets in those two dozens. 6 streets bet.

Now, if loss (or win), wait for a new trigger...(a "new dozen" to hit)

Progression double bets for each loss. Each trigger is played only ONCE, you place new bets for the next trigger & double bets at a loss.

Highest step in progression 1 2 4 8 16,....was step 5 (16u)

First test was played with 1u bets
Title: Re: Legendary System
Post by: NextYear on Nov 18, 02:37 AM 2015
One day in future people will read legends about Ignatus - systems wizard...
Title: Re: Legendary System
Post by: ignatus on Nov 18, 03:22 AM 2015
Quote from: nextyear on Nov 18, 02:37 AM 2015
One day in future people will read legends about Ignatus - systems wizard...

haha..I don't know about that! ;D But this system is not bulletproof, it works most of the time, but not all the time....Guess like any other system?,... don't put all your eggs in one basket, divide the bankroll into several chunks, accept a loss now and then, it's all about moneymanagement.
Title: Re: Legendary System
Post by: eddy35 on Nov 18, 07:07 AM 2015
Ignatus.............all your systems are based on progressions. Triggers en bet selections make no sense. Just use a different bet selction, use the same progression and you will have the same results. A Martingale will always work most of the time............but when it doesn't work, you lose all previous wins.

I am studying parlays at the moment,  instead of using a negative progression I use a positive one. Double after a win, not after a lost spin. That way you only risk the base bet and not more.  The way you play, you will lose 31 units ( 1-2-4-8-16 ) after a failed Martingale, I will only lose 5  units. And a positive progressioinb recovers just as fast.
Title: Re: Legendary System
Post by: ignatus on Nov 18, 08:28 AM 2015
Quote from: eddy35 on Nov 18, 07:07 AM 2015
Ignatus.............all your systems are based on progressions. Triggers en bet selections make no sense. Just use a different bet selction, use the same progression and you will have the same results. A Martingale will always work most of the time............but when it doesn't work, you lose all previous wins.

I am studying parlays at the moment,  instead of using a negative progression I use a positive one. Double after a win, not after a lost spin. That way you only risk the base bet and not more.  The way you play, you will lose 31 units ( 1-2-4-8-16 ) after a failed Martingale, I will only lose 5  units. And a positive progressioinb recovers just as fast.

ok, that sound good. but i don't think it's just like "any other betselection" betting the two last dozens is a fair betselection, especially after a "new dozen" hits...
Title: Re: Legendary System
Post by: RouletteGhost on Nov 18, 08:09 PM 2015
i like this

i hope to see more positive graphs

i will test this weekend
Title: Re: Legendary System
Post by: Celticknits on Jan 20, 12:02 PM 2016
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 18, 12:02 AM 2015
Playing with 6 streets, this gives the highest probability to win in roulette ~50%, this combined with betting the two last dozens and a good trigger makes up this Legendary System.

TRIGGER- Wait for a "new dozen" to hit. A "new dozen" is the new third dozen hit (from the most recent two last dozens hit) After a "new dozen" has hit, place bets: -bet all streets in the two last dozen hit, all except the most recent hit streets in those two dozens. 6 streets bet.

Now, if loss (or win), wait for a new trigger...(a "new dozen" to hit)

Progression double bets for each loss. Each trigger is played only ONCE, you place new bets for the next trigger & double bets at a loss.

Highest step in progression 1 2 4 8 16,....was step 5 (16u)

First test was played with 1u bets


To clarify if the last sequence is
8, 36, 23
I would bet all of the streets in Dozens #2 and #3 with the exception of the streets covered by the numbers 23 and 36.
Is this correct?

Also what is the highest progression that you have seen with this?

Note: looking at your graph I am surprised more people have not shown an interest in this.

-Celtic
Title: Re: Legendary System
Post by: ignatus on Jan 20, 12:26 PM 2016
Quote from: Celticknits on Jan 20, 12:02 PM 2016

I would really like to try this but am unclear on the trigger and how to select the streets to bet.

For example if the the last dozens hit are #8 (1)st dozen)  #36 (3rd Dozen) and #23 (2nd Dozen) how would you bet this.

Note: looking at your graph I am surprised more people have not shown an interest in this.

-Celtic

Yes, that's right. I guess it's a similar idea as "grassroots"? don't know which came first? (i didn't know about it, this was my invention) . "A new dozen hit" is explained: -as long as a THIRD dozen hit that's a valid trigger. (as compared with 2 dozens repeating, then a THIRD dozen hit, is "a new dozen hit")... Then the two last dozens hit are bet with streets, all except the two most recent hit streets,..

Martingale is very dangerous, i would recommend using Katilla's progression for a 50/50 bet, that is +1u for each loss and keep the same bet for the next trigger in the progression-line until recovered, then reset to 1u.

in your example, you got a valid trigger (third doz hit) so the bet would be all streets in doz 2 & 3 except for streets 22/24 & street 34/36. (streets 13/15, 16/18, 19/21 & 25/27, 28/30, 31/33 would be bet).

Title: Re: Legendary System
Post by: Celticknits on Jan 20, 12:30 PM 2016
Quote from: ignatus on Jan 20, 12:26 PM 2016
I guess it's a similar idea as "grassroots"? don't know which came first? (i didn't know about it, this was my invention) . "A new dozen hit" is explained: -as long as a THIRD dozen hit that's a valid trigger. (as compared with 2 dozens repeating, then a THIRD dozen hit, is "a new dozen hit")... Then the two last dozens hit are bet with streets, all except the two most recent hit streets,..

Martingale is very dangerous, i would recommend using Katilla's progression for a 50/50 bet, that is +1u for each loss and keep the same bet for the next trigger in the progression-line until recovered, then reset to 1u.

in your example, you got a valid trigger (third doz hit) so the bet would be all streets in doz 2 & 3 except for streets 22/24 & street 34/36. (streets 13/15, 16/18, 19/21 & 25/27, 28/30, 31/33 would be bet).

I think I have it now.
I edited my original post and resent it.

Thank you for your quick response.

-Celtic
Title: Re: Legendary System
Post by: Celticknits on Jan 20, 03:47 PM 2016
I knew this would be a winner.
Just got back from the casino and played two seperate sessions.
Up $21 + $24 fo a total of $45 plus $21 on the grassroots system for a grand total of $66.

I did not use Marty but rather a +1 on loss and -1 on a win on $1 bets for the Legendary System.
No insurance and for me that is scary but it worked.....THIS TIME..............

I am so surprised at the hit rate with this method.
As with any good system MM and discipline is the main theme here IMHO

In all plays I used a $200 session BR and a 20% profit stop limit.

-Celtic
Title: Re: Legendary System
Post by: ignatus on Jan 20, 05:09 PM 2016
Quote from: Celticknits on Jan 20, 03:47 PM 2016
I knew this would be a winner.
Just got back from the casino and played two seperate sessions.
Up $21 + $24 fo a total of $45 plus $21 on the grassroots system for a grand total of $66.

I did not use Marty but rather a +1 on loss and -1 on a win on $1 bets for the Legendary System.
No insurance and for me that is scary but it worked.....THIS TIME..............

I am so surprised at the hit rate with this method.
As with any good system MM and discipline is the main theme here IMHO

In all plays I used a $200 session BR and a 20% profit stop limit.

-Celtic

Nice! :)