Has anyone studied the possibility of playing in two at the same roulette table?
Can we get some advantage out of this combination? Any known system?
Thank you for your thoughts!
If the casino thinking you are playing as a group they will ban you.....
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That's other thing...
But why would they do it if there is no advantage anyway?
If u play as a group u cna be banned as ddarko said
So find a casino with multiple airball machines. Can play as a team on airball until the cows come home
Yes, it would be easy to find the way to hide, I think.
But what damage could I do if I have a partner?
Except to double loss?!
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 18, 12:33 PM 2015
If u play as a group u cna be banned as ddarko said
So find a casino with multiple airball machines. Can play as a team on airball until the cows come home
What's the difference between playing together at a normal table or an airball table RG ?
If they think you are in cahoots you are gone.....
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Quote from: nextyear on Nov 18, 12:42 PM 2015
Yes, it would be easy to find the way to hide, I think.
But what damage could I do if I have a partner?
Except to double loss?!
LOL
I have no idea what advantage could be gained nextyear. Maybe differential betting like denzie was doing ?
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My local casino is huge
Many many airball machines
No pitbosses
Just clueless employees that take an hour to come when a machine malfunctions
Very easy to play as a team there
But whats the point what can u do as a team that u cant do yourself on a machine
Resorts world casino queens
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 18, 01:26 PM 2015
But whats the point what can u do as a team that u cant do yourself on a machine
Like I said differential betting like Denzie does/did is all I can think of.....
One bet Red the other Black with some kinda of progression.....
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Of course an other way to play as a team is I get the attention of the croupier
& you past-post to win a shed load of money.......
that WILL get you banned !!!!!
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i did this at resorts world
and i won
i mean its the same as parlaying your own bet without a partner
but for giggles this is what you mean?
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=re3BBJ3GOB4 (link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=re3BBJ3GOB4)
edit: this is a stupid method. i was lucky
yeah, as far as I see it, differential betting IS something along those lines.....
Remember Denzie was doing some similar but not the same from what I could make out.....
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if differential betting were to work i would be in my own heaven
all electronic baccarat at resorts world. robot arms, real cards
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 18, 06:56 PM 2015
if differential betting were to work i would be in my own heaven
all electronic baccarat at resorts world. robot arms, real cards
Well Denzie would appear to be a fan.....
It would appear he added some kind of tweak & then left the forum.
Would a B&M casino allow you to bet P & B at baccarat ? Or R/B, O/E or H/L at roulette ?
I wouldn't of thought so hence the playing in tandem, but I don't know for sure......
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Quote from: ddarko on Nov 18, 07:03 PM 2015
Well Denzie would appear to be a fan.....
It would appear he added some kind of tweak & then left the forum.
Would a B&M casino allow you to bet P & B at baccarat ? Or R/B, O/E or H/L at roulette ?
I wouldn't of thought so hence the playing in tandem, but I don't know for sure......
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i dont know for certain
i *think* on the electronic screens you can bet on both at the same time
no worries if you cant though, just have a friend sit next to you
IF you were differential betting in tandem with a friend I think it would be v v easy for the casino
to spot you both. Two ppl betting a progression ALWAYS opposite of each other, would surely
be easy to see by an experienced pit boss no ?
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roulette - real wheel with screens
baccarat- real cards with screens
Quote from: ddarko on Nov 18, 07:10 PM 2015
IF you were differential betting in tandem with a friend I think it would be v v easy for the casino
to spot you both. Two ppl betting a progression ALWAYS opposite of each other, would surely
be easy to see by an experienced pit boss no ?
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no my casino doesnt have pit bosses
you sit there all day long if you want
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 18, 07:14 PM 2015
no my casino doesnt have pit bosses
you sit there all day long if you want
Well looks like you would have a chance then !!!!!
Just the bet to work out :o
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they say NY state machines are controlled and rigged
i dont believe it
ive seen people hit numbers with $25 chips and walk about 4,000 dollars richer
no live dealer with NY casinos correct ?
Didn't you say that airball roulette picked the number just before it "spins" ?
I wouldn't be a fan of that.
How far is your nearest "live dealer" ?
Assuming you do get a consistent bet you will have to travel anyway, you cannot
win, win & win again night in, night out at the same casino.
That will pi$$ them off ;)
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the theory is the airball decided where the ball is going to land. supposedly it is in the patent
so when i played the grassroots 123 saturday i didnt put the chips down until the ball was released, you have about 3 seconds left at that point
closest live dealer is mt airy casino in pennsylvania
at resorts world you can win until kingdom come, noone will stop you or kick you out....maybe they have cameras that will watch you if you win a lot, i dont know
live dealer thats a different story
i was winning with bookie strategy in a live dealer casino in pittsburgh and i had the paper in my hand. they closed the table after i was up a few hundred
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 18, 07:34 PM 2015
the theory is the airball decided where the ball is going to land. supposedly it is in the patent
So that's not roulette in my book. Just like RNG isn't....
so when i played the grassroots 123 saturday i didnt put the chips down until the ball was released, you have about 3 seconds left at that point
So at least you do have 3 seconds, and with few chips that shouldn't be an issue ?
closest live dealer is mt airy casino in pennsylvania
That's quite far right ?
at resorts world you can win until kingdom come, noone will stop you or kick you out....maybe they have cameras that will watch you if you win a lot, i dont know
What are the table limits there ? Maybe the airball patent DOES help keep the winners down ?
live dealer thats a different story
i was winning with bookie strategy in a live dealer casino in pittsburgh and i had the paper in my hand. they closed the table after i was up a few hundred
Are you sure it was because of you ? Were you the only player ? Was somebody else winning more? Was it late ?
Instead of closing the table just take the paper away from you right ?
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So at least you do have 3 seconds, and with few chips that shouldn't be an issue ?
no issue at all plenty of time to bet if you know exactly what you want to do....that extra few seconds is a hidden gem for airball
That's quite far right ?
90 minute drive
What are the table limits there ? Maybe the airball patent DOES help keep the winners down ?
$10-$20 minimum up to i think $3000 maximum depending on time of day or day of week....10 on each dozen or 10 scattered on numbers. i dont know, i see a lot of winners, and losers
Are you sure it was because of you ? Were you the only player ? Was somebody else winning more? Was it late ?
Instead of closing the table just take the paper away from you right ?
a few players. they asked what i had on the paper and i responded with "lucky number voodoo" won a few times and table was closed
Right thxs for the replies :thumbsup:
I assume all the Airball machines are double zero ?
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Quote from: ddarko on Nov 18, 07:54 PM 2015
Right thxs for the replies :thumbsup:
I assume all the Airball machines are double zero ?
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thats the beauty of it
we have THREE european machines
$20 minimum..............
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 18, 07:54 PM 2015
thats the beauty of it
we have THREE european machines
$20 minimum..............
HeHeHe nice1 I didn't expect that !!!!!
Many ppl play them ?
Obviously as soon as your BR can cover it play them !!!!!
cut that house edge in half 8)
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Quote from: ddarko on Nov 18, 07:57 PM 2015
HeHeHe nice1 I didn't expect that !!!!!
Many ppl play them ?
Obviously as soon as your BR can cover it play them !!!!!
cut that house edge in half 8)
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the european wheels have their own section and its always crowded
when i want to play them i wait for an empty spot
thats another terrific thing. crowded airball wheels if rigged will avoid certain bets, cant avoid them all
since i am devoting all my time and energy to grassroots 123 it shouldnt be a problem
i need to test it on euro numbers, i havent tested it on euro yet only american zummas
i can play on euro because its the same as american minimum
american airball minimum is 10 but it requires 10 on each dozen. euro minimum is 20, but only requires 10 on each dozen, same thing
i was scared to play 123 on euro because i have not tested it yet
well you would be wise to test on the euro wheel because you can then
cut that house edge in half......
When betting dozens one less green monster will help a lot......
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Quote from: ddarko on Nov 18, 08:05 PM 2015
well you would be wise to test on the euro wheel because you can then
cut that house edge in half......
When betting dozens one less green monster will help a lot......
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only euro spins i can test is here from smart live 185 spin lots on this forum
and i occasionally look at celtic live wheel euro marquee and ive yet to see 123 on that
link:://:.spielbank-wiesbaden.de/index.php?id=101&L=1 (link:://:.spielbank-wiesbaden.de/index.php?id=101&L=1)
hit the "Archiv" button top left & translate the page......
years & years of old euro spins for you there......
You can also download them as a .txt file & upload them to RX
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thank you
i just took a look
and WOW how different then american results
i circles all the 1 2 3 sequences
no where near close to that many on american
granted each and everyone of these is a winner if i had played (and won) the 1st mini game then switched tables. hit and run to another table IMPORTANT for euro for this method?!?!?!
Well, you last wrinkle was looking to change from 1/2/3 right ?
You need to remember that 1/2/3 has as much chance as ANY three spins combination :thumbsup:
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maybe due to wheel layout 1 2 3 is not best for euro. ill try 321
shame on me
i apologize to original poster for changing the subject ill leave that here
Rg
Dont you have RX?
All the download spins are from several german casinos.
Turner
Just a word of clarification. Playing partners on a roulette game with zero or zero and double zero doesn't help. If one bets on Black and the other one bets on Red, when zero hits you both still lose. You would still have to play differentially. Which means only one of you would be playing on a spin.
The only advantage playing as partners would give someone is that you can extend a progression beyond the table limit for a single player by the two partners betting a portion of the bet. So, if the table limit is $1000 both of you could bet $1000 on the same number/split/street etc... thus doubling you actual table limit. Of course you'd have to work out the fine details of when to split the progression. I suppose you could either start with 2 units, each partner betting one of the units and go from there. Or one partner could sit out the first bet and if his partner lost, then you could split the 2 unit bet. Using 3, 4 or even 5 partners could really increase your maximum bet possible. Although the casino could easily spot that, I would think.
Also, if you're playing a system that places bets on a lot of spots, partners could split the felt and one partner covers half the table and the other partner covers the other half which would cut the difficulty of getting all your spots bet.
Playing as partners can't change the odds of winning any given spin.
Thanks GLC, it was just a thought.
Table limits are not my problem, as I like betting low...
I also see no other advantage besides stretching the table limmits... Everything 2 people can do, you can also do alone... roulete speaking of course :p
We have a saying: "man and donkey are worth more than the man himself"...
That's where I get the idea from!
Best played on a French table in case of zero
Player A plays red , Player B black. both start with a stake 1 unit
On a win double the stake on a loss revert to 1 unit.
After a run of 10 reds player a wins 1024 while player B loses 10.
Players split the winnings at appropriate times and restart with 1 unit stakes. No player can lose more than 1 unit a spin
Even runs of 5 or more are profitable, perhaps a run of 10 is too much to hope for but we've all seen it happen haven't we?
Other players in the team can play the other even chance bets.
It could be played live at online with RKG but would take time.
Quote from: mathemagician on Nov 19, 06:23 PM 2015
Best played on a French table in case of zero
Player A plays red , Player B black. both start with a stake 1 unit
On a win double the stake on a loss revert to 1 unit.
After a run of 10 reds player a wins 1024 while player B loses 10.
Players split the winnings at appropriate times and restart with 1 unit stakes. No player can lose more than 1 unit a spin
Even runs of 5 or more are profitable, perhaps a run of 10 is too much to hope for but we've all seen it happen haven't we?
Other players in the team can play the other even chance bets.
It could be played live at online with RKG but would take time.
Im terrible at math
So correct me if im wrong
But isnt that the same of just betting on the last decision and parlaying the wins?