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Title: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: Tamino on Dec 27, 07:20 AM 2015
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Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Dec 28, 12:22 PM 2015
Greetings!

Well, it snowed in Oklahoma and I can't landscape and I'm bored so I'm back for a while.  Maybe even a while and a half!

Anyone had a look-see at this method? 

I've spent a few hours reading his post and looking at his chart and I can't get the two to jibe. 

If anyone would like to join me in a study of this method, perhaps we could help each other. 

TwoCat
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: MrJ on Dec 28, 01:14 PM 2015
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 28, 12:22 PM 2015
Greetings!

Well, it snowed in Oklahoma and I can't landscape and I'm bored so I'm back for a while.  Maybe even a while and a half!

Anyone had a look-see at this method? 

I've spent a few hours reading his post and looking at his chart and I can't get the two to jibe. 

If anyone would like to join me in a study of this method, perhaps we could help each other. 

TwoCat

HI BUDDY !!

Ken
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Dec 28, 01:27 PM 2015
Hello, MrJ.

Good to see you're still around!
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Dec 28, 03:28 PM 2015
each time an imaginary bet is won at step 1, i bet for real on the next spins until i lose then i revert to the virtual mode.

This is from Arte's post.  Here is where I'm unclear.  I read him saying that if he wins the virtual bet, he bet continuously until he loses.  The he returns to betting on the 1/2 method until he gets a win on the 1.

IF that is what he is saying, I can find no example of that in the chart. 

Anyone?

Sam
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: Normy2000 on Dec 28, 04:36 PM 2015
Cant awnser but glad to see ur back Sam!  8)
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: Tamino on Dec 28, 04:58 PM 2015
rte was  faced with  high table limits at the Casino Montreal and  he   wanted to  protect his bankroll. He was not going to a casino  just" playing to play.


He  went home  a winner after all..


Martingale  and Progressions are tools of LOSERS>



Learn how to win.











Learn hown to win !!  Martingale and  ,"progression




Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: Turner on Dec 28, 06:34 PM 2015
TFFT

Twocats back !
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Dec 28, 07:12 PM 2015
Yes, Turner, I'm back and I'm gong to be nice!

Hi Normy!

Well, I'm figuring this thing out.

Will it fly?  Who knows?

Sam
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: Nickmsi on Dec 28, 08:08 PM 2015
Hi Sam . . .

Welcome back, we miss your humor, at least I do.

If you can figure this out, just let me know and I will code and test it for you.

Cheers

Nick
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: Tomla021 on Dec 28, 08:35 PM 2015
welcome back two cat
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Jan 04, 03:44 PM 2016
Guys

It seems to me this is an adaptation of Parrondo's Paradox.  Arte is playing two loosing games and claiming to have a winner overall.

Comments?

(Thanks for the greetings.  I appreciate it.)

Sam
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: thelaw on Jan 04, 05:28 PM 2016
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jan 04, 03:44 PM 2016
Guys

It seems to me this is an adaptation of Parrondo's Paradox.  Arte is playing two loosing games and claiming to have a winner overall.

Comments?

(Thanks for the greetings.  I appreciate it.)

Sam

If you can use this method to reduce the overall variance, then you could use something like the Penthouse progression + a strong MM strategy.

For MM you could use a basic Martingale (move up on a loss = 100 units - 200 units - 400 units - 800 units). It's a bit aggressive, but if you can control the variance, then it wouldn't matter anyway.

The idea is to stack so many statistically improbable situations together, that to lose would basically be like getting struck by lightening!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Jan 04, 11:38 PM 2016
Arte includes a progression--a quite limited one.  Before I do any "tweaking", I will learn his method completely to see if he has anything.

Thanks....................
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: Dutchy on Jan 06, 09:28 AM 2016
 Sam,Artie seems to go virtual after a real win or loss. I spent some time on first page results. He does not keep going even after a win,at least on that page. He also goes virtual at the first start of the 9 cycle series. Sam a lot of tracking between spins.
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Jan 06, 02:03 PM 2016
As I understand it, he has broken it down into two games, each ruled by an attack of either two spins or nine spins.  There could be a lot of tracking. 

If he wins in virtual, the 1-2 attack, he bets for real on the second part of the attack.  1=virtual win then 2=real bet.  UNLESS.....the 1 was the ninth spin of the nine-spin attack.

Any time he wins and goes ahead one unit, he starts the nine-spin attack and the two-spin attack at 1 for both.  If he is not ahead by at least one unit and still has some spins left in the attack, he begins the A'lembert.  He may go three spins before the nine-spin attack ends.  (I found where he did it.)

I think it's worth playing a little...........

Sam

Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: thelaw on Jan 06, 02:42 PM 2016
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jan 06, 02:03 PM 2016
As I understand it, he has broken it down into two games, each ruled by an attack of either two spins or nine spins.  There could be a lot of tracking. 

If he wins in virtual, the 1-2 attack, he bets for real on the second part of the attack.  1=virtual win then 2=real bet.  UNLESS.....the 1 was the ninth spin of the nine-spin attack.

Any time he wins and goes ahead one unit, he starts the nine-spin attack and the two-spin attack at 1 for both.  If he is not ahead by at least one unit and still has some spins left in the attack, he begins the A'lembert.  He may go three spins before the nine-spin attack ends.  (I found where he did it.)

I think it's worth playing a little...........

Sam

.....be carefull.........huge red flag on the linked thread : member claims system fails and author responds with "all online Roulette is fixed" (note he is not referring to RNG, but live wheels) :sad2: :sad2: :sad2:
Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Jan 07, 01:48 PM 2016
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Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: Tamino on Jan 07, 02:37 PM 2016
I published this link  for the benefit  of the ones  who have not been here  when it was  originally posted.

As Nathan Detroit I took part during the discussion  at that time.

Do what you want with it.

For recreational purposes only. Play at your own risk.



Title: Re: Simple winning EC playing method
Post by: Dutchy on Jan 07, 03:51 PM 2016
 Tamino,thanks for posting it up. Make no mistake a big effort was put into this  by Artie. He deserves credit for that. :)