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Title: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 09, 02:11 AM 2016
Whaddya reckon?  :twisted:

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Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: MumboJumbo on Jan 09, 03:05 AM 2016
Here is your feedback . 1$$$$$$

Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RobbieD on Jan 09, 05:30 AM 2016
Can we claim for repetitive strain injury for pressing the 'down' button so many times?
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: Still on Jan 10, 02:54 AM 2016
If this works, i will reveal who/what the Son of Man and/or the Son of God is.  For free.  Ok i'll reveal the Son of Man for free, but the Son of God cost extra $5. 

I was going to describe what i observe here, but actually, from the pictures, it seems pretty clear. Is anyone not clear what is going on here?

The total take over these 62 (?) spins was 63 units, flat bet. 

If this is representative of an average session then thank you very much! 

I'm in such a good mood, i will discount the revelation of the Son of God $3 off regular price. 
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 10, 06:59 AM 2016
Actually, I think this is the way to beat the game believe it or not! If the ball lands on number 24 it could land on 24 again next spin and again 3rd spin! You could get 24+ reds in a row, but you won't get the number 24 hit more than 3-5 times in a row methinks! The rarest events on the board are when the same number hits repeatedly. So one thing we can be sure is that the remainder of the board is forced to open up before we even look at when a repeat is likely to happen. The game always starts out with the sleepers making themselves known. The Son of Man was a bit more covert! Those straight ups have to hit sooner or later! And I see the streets and dozens as a way of buying time. This system is about the cheapest way of surrounding the numbers that have shown themselves. It needs further development based around the short term. Also, there are choices after a Double Street hits (1 Streets + 1 Split or 1 Quad + 1 Number). I hope to test this further.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 10, 09:15 AM 2016
Disclaimer: so far this is without much thought to bet weightings nor progressions, but I'm not intending to make a profit every win here. It's about staggering a win on the single straight ups and we are positively progressing by moving from the outside of the board to the inside without actually increasing the chips. There's also some relationship here to PP - but I'm still trying to get my head around that.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 10, 09:51 AM 2016
Thanks for the numbers
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: iggiv on Jan 10, 10:13 AM 2016
i hope to see the rules by the first next decade New Year.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: iggiv on Jan 10, 10:18 AM 2016
next result
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 10, 11:37 AM 2016
Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 10, 09:51 AM 2016
Thanks for the numbers

As said avg in 30 spins 15 point something, i round down to 15.

So after 1st 10 spins, spins 11-40 get 16#'s,  as its over .5 should round up to 16, so 16 0x's in 30 spins, spot on :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 10, 11:44 AM 2016
What is KTF?

I just thought you guys would like the starting position of this system?  :twisted:

I'll come up with some rules after I've done some more trial and error... I like this system because it's fun and doesn't require difficult calculation and is quite practical.

First rule: we have to cover all the sleepers/unhit numbers in the cheapest possible way without any overlap - but we are forced to bet on single numbers beginning with zero.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 10, 12:02 PM 2016
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jan 10, 11:44 AM 2016
What is KTF? look at reply 7

I just thought you guys would like the starting position of this system?  :twisted:

I'll come up with some rules after I've done some more trial and error... I like this system because it's fun and doesn't require difficult calculation and is quite practical.

First rule: we have to cover all the sleepers/unhit numbers in the cheapest possible way without any overlap - but we are forced to bet on single numbers beginning with zero.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 10, 12:25 PM 2016
That's where I saw "KTF" (in the doc of reply #7), but what system is this abbreviation referring to?
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 10, 12:33 PM 2016

Keep The Faith
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 10, 01:12 PM 2016
 :xd: If that zero came in on the first spin... would have been a different story!
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 10, 01:34 PM 2016
OK, so here's the most logical way to play this system based on the carpet that they've given us...
1) First bet should be on zero alone
Number 21 lands so we lose -1 units
2) Here's the cheapest way of covering the board without 21:
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Wager: 5 chips

Zero +31
Split +13
Street +7
Dozen -2
Low -3

Which of you bright sparks has a better idea at this early stage?  :question:
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: NextYear on Jan 10, 02:08 PM 2016
Thanks for the system Falkor.
Why 2x Chips?
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 10, 02:14 PM 2016
That site doesn't let me use 1 unit chips!
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 10, 02:46 PM 2016
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jan 10, 01:12 PM 2016
:xd: If that zero came in on the first spin... would have been a different story!

Thats why its KTF  +£60.00  :thumbsup: O0
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 10, 02:59 PM 2016
Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 10, 12:33 PM 2016
Keep The Faith

falkor2k15 if you read the script in reply 7 theres plenty of places to jump off with a profit.

Remember what the Great one says its your decision
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 10, 03:06 PM 2016
To the readers of the forum

If you play on the inside field, i'd personally recommend reading Gut. Learn to watch the trot
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 10, 03:48 PM 2016
Can you teach us GUT? What does "watching the trot" mean? Could you translate your wisdom of every situation into a bot/simulator that could automatically test the GUT system over 1 million spins?
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 10, 04:04 PM 2016
Whats gut? LOL

1 million spins? LOL
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 10, 04:06 PM 2016
Using my system I was up by 69 units in 6 spins:
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Can GUT do that?
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 10, 04:43 PM 2016
I think we should leave out the first bet (zero on it's own) and play to win our first single straight up to finish the set. Here I reached my goal/target of winning via an individual number, on the very first spin (+30 units):
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When a repeat occurs, it's a complete loss, so I suggest increasing the chips by 1 on the single numbers only that have individual chips on. For now I am keeping the splits and other bet types at 1 unit max.

When an area of the board hits we have to take the chips off winning number and adjust the bets around that number in the most cheapest way possible, and in general we are always looking to split neighbouring bets after re-adjustments:
2 singles next to each other = convert to split
2 splits next to each other = convert to quad
2 streets next to each other = convert to a Double Street
Once at the very beginning of a set I had to convert from Double Streets back to a Dozen.

The rest of the stuff you can figure out from the screenshots on page 1: when a split hits move the chip to the single unhit number belonging to that split. When a Street hit, move the chip to the unhit split part of that street. When a double street occurs there are 2 choices:
Middle column number = 1 chip on unhit single street + 1 chip on each single numbers of the remaining street either side of the number that just hit.
Column 1 or 3 number = 1 chip on unhit single street + 1 chip on unhit split of the DS
When Dozen hits: chips on 1 DS, 1 Street + 1 Split (or 2 single numbers depending on which column the hit took place in)
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 10, 05:31 PM 2016
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jan 10, 03:48 PM 2016
Can you teach us GUT? What does "watching the trot" mean? Could you translate your wisdom of every situation into a bot/simulator that could automatically test the GUT system over 1 million spins?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 10, 04:04 PM 2016
Whats gut? LOL

1 million spins? LOL

at this present time No.

Gut, thats a good one, i'll try tomorrow when the old brain is not so dehydrated, after a couple bottles of Fizz.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 11, 05:14 AM 2016
nottophammer, hope you are sober today! Can you please explain what to look out for in "watching the trot" in GUT? Whatever observations and decisions you make can surely be replicated by a bot.

My system is looking really sweet now - I love it!! It feels like I am back in the arcades trapping people in the corner on Street Fighter II! :love:

One major change of rules: on a total loss due to an early repeater DO NOT increase on the singles, but increase on the bets that are furthest towards the outside of the board (usually the double streets at this stage). That's it for now. I am happy with the mechanics of this system - it's purely a question now of finding out the optimum way to increase chips on bets that are covering the largest area of the board and by how much exactly as each set progresses - since it's the outer, larger most bet types that fall in the most at the beginning (following the natural carpet mechanics I devised) whilst we anticipate our first single to end the set. And the singles do not lose value so easily - but the other bet types do - so there may be a time when we need to increase on splits as well.

I'm looking to make a few videos of this system now - but need a freeware screen capture software.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 11, 06:14 AM 2016
My first video - system still needs some work!
link:s://youtu.be/5mVKfNDoX8Q
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 11, 07:35 AM 2016
I've been tinkering with some ideas around this.  This seems to work.

Look at column streets: 1,4,7     10,13,16     19,22,25     28,31,34
                                      2,5,8     11,14,17     20,23,26     29,32,35
                                      3,6,9     12,15,18     21,24,27     30,33,36

Note the newest two column streets to show.  Bet the other two numbers in both custom streets (four numbers) for up to nine spins.  Example: 5,30 (newest spin-value)

Bet 2,8 and 33,36 for up to nine spins.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 11, 11:39 AM 2016
Had a very bad run - good opportunity to test the limits and see where improvements can be made:
EC (35 numbers)
DS (34 numbers)
SP (33 numbers)
DZ (32 numbers)
loss
DS (31 numbers)
ST (30 numbers)
QD (29 numbers)
DS (28 numbers)
DS (27 numbers)
loss
loss
loss
SP (26 numbers)
loss
SP (25 numbers)
loss
DS (24 numbers)
SP (23 numbers)
loss
loss
loss
loss
loss
loss
SU (22 numbers)
SP (21 numbers)
SP (20 numbers)
SU (19 numbers)

So that's:

SU x 2
SP x 6
QD x 1
DS x 5
ST x 1
DZ x 1
EC x 1

So judging from those results we need to either relax the incrementation of chips completely or only increase, mainly, on the Splits and Double Streets instead of focusing the progression in the order I suggested previously.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 11, 12:01 PM 2016
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Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 11, 12:21 PM 2016
After analyzing the above data there are 3 choices moving forward as I see it:
1) Correctly weight the bets from the beginning, increasing chips from inside to outside (possibly followed by option 2 or 3)
OR
2) Upon each complete loss increase the Splits first then the Straight Ups
OR
3) Upon each complete loss increase both the Splits and the Straight Ups

I will test 2 and 3 next.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 11, 12:43 PM 2016
Testing 3) first - game 1:
link:s://youtu.be/FmtfuNg92MA

game 2:
link:s://youtu.be/W8J815UEZLM

game 3:
link:s://youtu.be/fsgQwWM6JrA

game 4: (PERFECT!)
link:s://youtu.be/2JLAKImszY8
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 11, 01:32 PM 2016
WHAT A BLINDER!!!!!  >:D :thumbsup: O0 Best game yet:
link:s://youtu.be/w2mBv_B42Bo (game 5)

Smashed it big time on that one!  8) That is so neat...  :xd:
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 11, 01:34 PM 2016
Please lay out the rules for the strategy

Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 11, 02:21 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 11, 01:34 PM 2016
Please lay out the rules for the strategy
KEEP THE FAITH - RULES / INSTRUCTIONS

1) Wait for one virtual spin then cover the remaining numbers on the board in the cheapest possible way:
Let's say 36 hits: 1 split (34+35), 1 street (31-33), 2 double streets (19-30), low EC (1-18), zero (0)
Let's say 17 hits: 2 straight ups (16 and 18), 1 street (13-15), 1 dozen (1-12), high EC (19-36), zero (0)

Those are the 2 main starting bet selections depending on where the ball landed on the carpet layout. (column 1/3 vs. column 2)

2) 36/37 numbers are covered to begin with, so we should expect wins to mostly occur during the first few spins, as we are repeating the complete bet selection, albeit with minor bet sub-conversions when certain areas of the board hit a long the way (evolving from the initial layout established in step 1). When a number hits, the chip covering that area of the board needs to be removed and the bet re-organised for that same area - minus the number that just hit - hence we sub-divide and break down the bet into smaller units. We are always trying to cover the unhit numbers in the cheapest possible way surrounding the void that's being created by the exclusion of numbers that have appeared once or more, as the trot progresses.

Straight Up: we just take off the chip and usually end set on a new high otherwise continue playing if more than 18 numbers are in play, but no need to alter anything else in terms of bet selection.
Split: Remove the chip(s) from the winning split and place onto the other Single number of the Split that has yet to hit.
Quad (we don't start out with Quads but they can result from ongoing management of the bet selection; see next section): Remove the chip(s) and choose 1 unit for the remaining unhit part of the Quad consisting of 1 Split and 1 Straight Up. Try to use a combo that puts the Straight up next to another Straight up for potential merging with a neighbour (see bet selection management below).
Street: Remove chip(s) and place on the unhit Split part of the Street.
Double Street: Remove chip(s) and place 1 chip on the Street and 1 chip on the Split (5 numbers in total - minus the number that just hit).
Dozen: Remove chip(s) and place 1 chip on the 1 unhit Double Street, 1 Street and 1 Split (or 2 singles depending on the column of the winning number and physical constraints to placing the bet selection around it; see why we are forced to used different variations in step 1)
EC: Convert the bet through a combination of the above bet types (by the physical nature of the carpet this will include a dozen if the ball landed in the middle dozen; otherwise Double Streets and smaller bet types)

3) When you lose outright, i.e. a number that has previously hit, repeats, place same bet selection again - as always - but increase 1 unit on any Splits and Straight Ups (this rule is currently in testing and subject to change). Since no number has struck we do not need to modify/convert any bet selections for any areas of the board ala step 2.


BET SELECTION MANAGEMENT (merging bets into larger units)

Whilst playing the 3 steps above we are always looking to reduce the cost of the bet selection in-between bets, so if there are any splits next to each other then we convert them to a Quad. If 2 Straight Ups should become neighbours then we convert them to a Split. Sometimes 2 Streets can end up beside each other - convertible into a Double Street. Once at the very beginning 2 Double Streets got converted into a Dozen. This maintains complete cover of the board in the cheapest possible way - notwithstanding when we start to lose and are increasing chips frantically on the Splits and Straight Ups (so this housekeeping of merging bets is not set in stone by any means).

Most importantly: watch and learn from the videos above!
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 11, 03:55 PM 2016
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jan 11, 12:21 PM 2016
After analyzing the above data there are 3 choices moving forward as I see it:
1) Correctly weight the bets from the beginning, increasing chips from inside to outside (possibly followed by option 2 or 3)
OR
2) Upon each complete loss increase the Splits first then the Straight Ups
OR
3) Upon each complete loss increase both the Splits and the Straight Ups

I will test 2 and 3 next.
Variation 3 hasn't lost yet - but I'm going to test variation 1 as I feel it will give a stronger starting game and possibly will hold out just as well?
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 11, 04:43 PM 2016
Weighted bets is looking more better and more stable. I had a few early losses, but recovered very well and kept above zero most of the time :
(link:://s8.postimg.org/6xn0gjzlh/stable.jpg)
Ended with 17 numbers in play

So every spin we should bet 1 unit on Straight Ups, 2 units on Splits, 3 on Streets, 4 on Double Streets, 5 on Dozens, 6 on ECs. When converting a bet into smaller units after a win the amount of chips should match whatever another bet type is as the same level. When a complete loss occurs we should increase 1 chip on everything - magnifying the bets, but keeping the same weight ratio. I'll make a video tomorrow.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 11, 05:31 PM 2016
I admit i have made shitty systems before

But if you follow this guy plan on losing your shirt

Take his advice you will be on the corner begging for shillings and pence

Amazing how a few days ago he had a millionaire system now he is preaching this COMPLETE INSANITY

Im sorry but if you buy any of this then you are gullible!

I feel bad sometimes because you really cant see through people online sometimes. So i dont know if he is smart and hates us all or if he is really this dumb.

Ive never seen such impractical, reckless betting in my life.

See picture. Follow this guy and that will be you

At least the premise of grassroots makes sense

As far as im concerned this whole thing is MALARKY just like everything else he posts

EVERYTHING he has EVER posted is garbage

This guy really is somethin else.

Red flag:
-cover the whole board except last number hit, on online RNG in demo mode. Yea, that'll work. All i needed to see was bet every number except the last one hit on rng. Amateur stuff. Or you work for the online casino.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH



Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: Orochi on Jan 11, 07:53 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 11, 05:31 PM 2016
I admit i have made shitty systems before

But if you follow this guy plan on losing your shirt

Take his advice you will be on the corner begging for shillings and pence

Amazing how a few days ago he had a millionaire system now he is preaching this COMPLETE INSANITY

Im sorry but if you buy any of this then you are gullible!

I feel bad sometimes because you really cant see through people online sometimes. So i dont know if he is smart and hates us all or if he is really this dumb.

Ive never seen such impractical, reckless betting in my life.

See picture. Follow this guy and that will be you

At least the premise of grassroots makes sense

As far as im concerned this whole thing is MALARKY just like everything else he posts

EVERYTHING he has EVER posted is garbage

This guy really is somethin else.

Red flag:
-cover the whole board except last number hit, on online RNG in demo mode. Yea, that'll work. All i needed to see was bet every number except the last one hit on rng. Amateur stuff. Or you work for the online casino.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

RG is wrong to share an idea !?!

Grassroot it wasnt you ideia too... Soo stop complain! I proof to all "u is not blind" that Grassroot will fail in the long run, still u can play it or not at your own risk !!! I think you have a very limited vision of this game.

Ever u see me saying this system "xpto" fail without proving it !?!

So dont attack people and stop saying "INSANE" cause i never see you show any good fundamented ideias. Worse u just said " that you made shitty systems". I could bet that you dont go to pass that barrier.


Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 11, 07:57 PM 2016
Quote from: Orochi on Jan 11, 07:53 PM 2016
RG is wrong to share an idea !?!

Grassroot it wasnt you ideia too... Soo stop complain! I proof to all "u is not blind" that Grassroot will fail in the long run, still u can play it or not at your own risk !!! I think you have a very limited vision of this game.

Ever u see me saying this system "xpto" fail without proving it !?!

So dont attack people and stop saying "INSANE" cause i never see you show any good fundamented ideias. Worse u just said " that you made shitty systems". I could bet that you dont go to pass that barrier.

This strategy is insane. 

Do you know who falkor is?

Claimed several times he had a grail to share and never did. Lies

Hows the millionaire system? He had you on his list....did he deliver?

He is betting every number but the last one hit. Thats an idea?! I can tell you that fails without proving it lol

Orochi you know better then to believe this trash, i will quote him on this strategy

"2) 36/37 numbers are covered to begin with"

If you think this is an idea then im in the twilight zone

Besides. Its not even practical on a real table
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 12, 03:09 AM 2016
We cover the board except the last number - but it's on a rolling basis - so each time we bet we are covering 1 less number than before until we get down to 18 numbers left (by then we are covering only half the board). This system is based on the fact that the rarest event on the board is when a single number (or same area of the board) repeats multiple times; therefore the board has to open up - so we capitalise on that and at the same time we take advantage of the carpet layout that they have given us!
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: keepontryin on Jan 12, 08:30 AM 2016
rg why knock the guy test it yourself.......falkor may have something here....
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 12, 09:21 AM 2016
Quote from: keepontryin on Jan 12, 08:30 AM 2016
rg why knock the guy test it yourself.......falkor may have something here....

Why? See picture.

And last year he was banned for leading people on. He was banned for claims with no explanation. Then came back under this name

He does this one to two times a year.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 12, 09:30 AM 2016
The weighted bets are proving quite "weighty" when on a later losing streak:
990 EC (35 numbers) 19
991 DS (34 numbers) 3
981 DZ (33 numbers) 28
980 DS (32 numbers) 9
984 QD (31 numbers) 8
983 DS (30 numbers) 13
957 loss 8
974 SP (29 numbers) 7
939 loss 3
929 DS (28 numbers) 24
879 loss 28
907 SP (27 numbers) 22
891 DS (26 numbers) 36
mistake
926 SP (25 numbers) 29
875 loss 29
898 ST (24 numbers) 16
951 SP (23 numbers) 2
897 loss 29
930 ST (22 numbers) 5
868 loss 8
952 QD (21 numbers) 14
loss 3
loss 29
loss 5
-90+ each


EC x 1
DZ x 1
DS x 5
SP x 4
QD x 2
ST x 2
SU x 0

I'm now more inclined to play like this - without any progression - but divide the largest area bets into smaller units on a loss and merge back again on a win:
link:s://youtu.be/MU_rR_a1Ht4 (version 3; games 1&2)
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 12, 10:58 AM 2016
This might be a good compromise by concentrating progressions on the 2 outer most bet types in play:
link:s://youtu.be/-nVziKyMUew (version 4; game 1)
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 12, 01:02 PM 2016
Game 2 - perfect, solid game! But the final profit was quite small... Attacking from the outside I really feel in control and can gauge what order things will fall in whilst attempting to trap the board into hitting a single straight up. My system is really maturing now:
link:s://youtu.be/-eTCvTpxjBA
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 12, 01:33 PM 2016
Beautiful, BEAUTIFUL! :) No mistakes whatsoever... From this I am getting a slight feel for improvement: I think we should start rocking into the Splits slightly earlier to keep up with the natural rhythm - otherwise very smooth and solid indeed:
link:s://youtu.be/SO5iXDgt9PY (game 3&4)

This system is very elegant indeed!
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: Tamino on Jan 12, 02:57 PM 2016
That must be  the system the devil`s tobacco  chewing  grandmother  left in her will.  No doubt about it.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 12, 03:07 PM 2016
Quote from: Tamino on Jan 12, 02:57 PM 2016
That must be  the system the devil`s tobacco  chewing  grandmother  left in her will.  No doubt about it.

Exactly
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: keepontryin on Jan 12, 03:57 PM 2016
i see what you mean rg........your like columbo of the roulette forum good detective work
Quote from: keepontryin on Jan 12, 08:30 AM 2016
rg why knock the guy test it yourself.......falkor may have something here....
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 12, 04:40 PM 2016
Quote from: keepontryin on Jan 12, 03:57 PM 2016
i see what you mean rg........your like columbo of the roulette forum good detective work

Lol

Im never this hard on anyone.

But over a year ago he posted multiple pages of results
Very in depth complex results with no explanation
He promised by the new year to explain the rules. He never did.

Then he was banned for all of that and trying to lure people in via PM

Then recently days ago the millionaires system which he never disclosed under the new falkor name



hes back

This time?

Spin 1 - 36 #s
Spin 2 - 35 #s
Spin 3 - 34 #s

Etc

Will fail 100%


It is so ludacris

And people fall for it. Sad really

Orochi attack me maybe he doesnt know the whole story. I still like him
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: Turner on Jan 12, 04:52 PM 2016
Quote from: Tamino on Jan 12, 02:57 PM 2016
That must be  the system the devil`s tobacco  chewing  grandmother  left in her will.  No doubt about it.

From a wise man....ND

heres my feedback Falkor, hope you appreciate it

Its a newbie idea based on nothing to do with roulette knowledge. Its something millions...or even billions would of tried in the last hundred years. You are entitled to play to the limits of your knowledge Falkor, but I strongly advise others to not follow this rudimentary idea.

I wonder if you you know its flawed and in some bitter façade want to ruin people who look to the forum for mentors, and want to learn.

Just a thought
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 12, 05:00 PM 2016
Quote from: Turner on Jan 12, 04:52 PM 2016


I wonder if you you know its flawed and in some bitter façade want to ruin people who look to the forum for mentors, and want to learn.

Just a thought

I love when ND agrees with me. Gives me gratification

As far as this quote from you turner:
Absolutely 100000000%

Must have a lot of time on his hands
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 12, 08:04 PM 2016
I have to disagree with the latest feedback since the system has now really matured since I initially asked for feedback - it's simply not losing, and seems invincible right now. I'm regularly making 25 units profit (50 in the 2-unit simulator) in just a few spins. The rest of the sets can be long and drawn out - but the shielding is really tight throughout the assaults. This is the first time I've really felt in control of the game. Random is falling into my trap every time!
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 12, 08:18 PM 2016
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jan 12, 08:04 PM 2016
I have to disagree with the latest feedback since the system has now really matured since I initially asked for feedback - it's simply not losing, and seems invincible right now. I'm regularly making 25 units profit (50 in the 2-unit simulator) in just a few spins. The rest of the sets can be long and drawn out - but the shielding is really tight throughout the assaults. This is the first time I've really felt in control of the game. Random is falling into my trap every time!

Until numbers repeat

Martingale can make you feel invincible to....for a time
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 13, 05:51 AM 2016
Can't fault the mechanics of this system, but I am now looking for a way to make it more profitable and also in perfect sync and harmony as I felt a "lag" of about 2-4 spins behind. Here's what has been tested so far:


Again, I am starting to get a very good "feel" for this system - without actually coding it - would be an absolute nightmare. Most of the wins are taking place at the beginning, yet I feel this is not being taken advantage of. Moving forward I think we need to focus incrementing/increasing bets on the outer most bet types - specifically, those that are most likely to hit at any given time - on a rolling basis, regardless of winor loss. We don't want to bet too much nor on bet types that are not expected to hit, otherwise the singles lose their power and the total bets/losses start to mount up and reduce the bankroll exponentially. We want to bounce off each win in order to setup the next bet - until a single Straight up decides to show itself after being forced into submission. If there were no table limits then we would be using only Straight Ups from the beginning - but on a loss we wouldn't be able to recover with the current limits. We can't bet our house on 35/36 numbers or 34/36 numbers in case Random wants to inflict it's set losses on us towards the start of a set by repeating the same number(s) early on instead of giving us a more regular, alternating, dose of poison; so we are gradually teasing out the average profit - no matter how big or small (25 units or more?) - based on the entire period of the first 18 numbers showing. I will try to get this in perfect sync and make a new video. I am aiming to finish on a higher profit closer to 50 units instead of 25 - and when the Straight Up hits it still needs to retain a good value. So it's about balance.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 13, 09:49 AM 2016
(link:://i.imgur.com/M2mq5vM.gif)
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 13, 02:18 PM 2016
Version 5: started to gain larger profits by concentrating bet increments on the single Straight Ups, from the moment they appear in play, until they are either merged down into a Split or are forced into submission to make a show - resulting in end of set.
link:s://youtu.be/kVCPsJjtMcU

This is contrary to my previous thinking about attacking from the outside of the board, which was counter-productive. The above breakthrough comes from much trial and error as well as from some interesting stats on the basic mechanics (tested without money management to the point where a single Straight Up shows):

0 losses
spin 4: 17/34 (33 numbers left)
spin 5: 14/28, 19/38 (32 numbers left)
spin 7: 0 (30 numbers left including dozen chip)
spin 8: 38/76, 9/18, 13/26 (29 numbers left)
spin 9: 28/56 (28 numbers left)

1 loss
spin 13: -8/16

2 losses
spin 7: 1/2 (31 numbers left)
spin 12: -31/-62 (25 numbers left)

3 losses
spin 15: -46/-92 (24 numbers left)
spin 16: -11/-22 (24 numbers left)

6 losses
spin 17: -49/-98

10 losses
spin 22: -167/-334 (24 numbers left)


And here's one of the longest sets for a Straight Up to show:
EC
DZ
SP
ST
DZ
DS
QD
DS
SP
DS
SP
ST
SP 980
loss 954
loss
SP
ST
loss
ST
loss
ST
loss
loss
loss
SP
SU

Since the Straight Up hadn't shown after a winning streak of 13 spins we could have chosen to forfeit the set at that point - an idea for a future stop loss rule. However, I believe even the above set in full would have been no problem for version 5 to take to the bank.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: thelaw on Jan 13, 03:33 PM 2016
Loving Falkor's new blog!!! :thumbsup:

Strange how it made its way into a forum though.......:question:
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 13, 03:35 PM 2016
Quote from: thelaw on Jan 13, 03:33 PM 2016
Loving Falkor's new blog!!! :thumbsup:

Strange how it made its way into a forum though.......:question:

It is incredible.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: Tamino on Jan 13, 04:44 PM 2016
With enough approval (s) he only needs  1  ( and  apparently  he got it) the cat will sell it on e-bay.Just wait !


He won`t get my approval for that  crap.< To make  it perfectly. clear .
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 13, 05:56 PM 2016
I'm becoming a dab hand at this game now! :D I'm now playing down to 18 remaining numbers regardless of what hits. I'm finishing on 75/150 units per set depending on 1 or 2 unit chips. I hope more people will get involved so that this topic doesn't seem like a blog - otherwise you're only to blame for wasting yourselves! :)
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 13, 05:57 PM 2016
Ill call it the "house strategy"

It doesn't deserve the name KTF. Thats notto's and he is well respected.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 13, 06:00 PM 2016
I'll call it the "street strategy" - it's just for discussing with you guys whilst I take a break from the boring Millionaire's System!
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 13, 06:02 PM 2016
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jan 13, 06:00 PM 2016
I'll call it the "street strategy" - it's just for discussing with you guys whilst I take a break from the boring Millionaire's System!

Oh the millionaires strategy, the one you said made thousands in a few spins of the wheel

Yet you are blogging this

Good work champ
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: thelaw on Jan 13, 06:54 PM 2016
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jan 13, 06:00 PM 2016
I'll call it the "street strategy" - it's just for discussing with you guys whilst I take a break from the boring Millionaire's System!

Careful Falkor............remember not to respond directly to any other members..............or you'll start to make this look like a forum! :sad2:
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: iggiv on Jan 14, 09:09 AM 2016
Just to let you know guys Mods are watching him. I personally doubt that anyone can take the guy seriously after his
dances a year ago. To new people i will tell the story in a few words. He was leading people into believing he has something big just by telling about his results keeping people interested till promising to disclose his rules soon, but at the end asked those interested in big $$$$ to contact him privately. Clear scam baiting.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: iggiv on Jan 14, 09:19 AM 2016
One of the reasons i  am not removing him from here is that it looks like he does not do any harm here so far but rather amuses the public by his declarations. I wonder who would take that the guy really seriously now. A year ago it looked like some people could take his bait.

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 13, 06:02 PM 2016
Oh the millionaires strategy, the one you said made thousands in a few spins of the wheel

Yet you are blogging this

Good work champ
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 14, 09:25 AM 2016
Quote from: iggiv on Jan 14, 09:19 AM 2016
One of the reasons i  am not removing him from here is that it looks like he does not do any harm here so far but rather amuses the public by his declarations. I wonder who would take that the guy really seriously now. A year ago it looked like some people could take his bait.

Sadly some people STILL buy into him.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 15, 06:34 AM 2016
Here's the version 6 strategy... play down to 21 numbers without any progression/MM; if no profit then start increasing on the Straight Ups:
link:s://youtu.be/OId5OKCTcfw

The theory behind this is that if we are not in profit by the time 21 numbers are left then there has been too many repeats, so this is the time when we expect not only the sleepers but also the Straight Ups (and it becomes cheaper and less damaging to the BR with less numbers in play)
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: Tamino on Jan 15, 08:59 AM 2016
If he is happy with that system so be it. At least someone is happy.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 15, 09:56 AM 2016
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jan 15, 06:34 AM 2016
Here's the version 6 strategy... play down to 21 numbers without any progression/MM; if no profit then start increasing on the Straight Ups:
link:s://youtu.be/OId5OKCTcfw

The theory behind this is that if we are not in profit by the time 21 numbers are left then there has been too many repeats, so this is the time when we expect not only the sleepers but also the Straight Ups (and it becomes cheaper and less damaging to the BR with less numbers in play)

Now i dont look at Falkor to much, but if he's looking at KTF, uniques etc: then the above 21 #'s which is usualy in spins 21-30, he's right,the singles are getting cheaper.

If you look in Jackpot joy avg doc, you'll see that when the 16th unique hits leaving 21 unique to find, the longest so far it has taken the 21#'s to hit is 8 spins, if your covering a load of singles you need to win your win goal with in first 10 spins of betting, at the moment KTF using Jackpot joy spins is winning.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 15, 10:07 AM 2016
Today 16th unique hits spin 21, leaving 21 unique to hit, win next spin,20 unique to hit ,win next spin
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 15, 10:59 AM 2016
With version 6 I am now considering coding the system - but this would be a mammoth project - so I cannot quite justify it yet. I will test further and see if the "21 numbers left" scenario is as predictable as I imagine. Certainly the beginning of the set is very predictable and consistent.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 15, 11:04 AM 2016
No such justification for a mammoth project

U have the millionaires system from a few weeks ago
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: falkor2k15 on Jan 15, 11:16 AM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 15, 11:04 AM 2016
No such justification for a mammoth project

U have the millionaires system from a few weeks ago
But this system is really fun to play.
Title: Re: My new system - feedback appreciated
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jan 15, 11:34 AM 2016
Yea laying the chips down to bet 35 numbers is so......fun.