Well now, to my logic this should work (most of the time),.....at least for hit and run. This is 3 doublestreets bet.
TRIGGER- Bet against the last 3 doublestreets hit with progression 1-2-4-8-16 STOP
Progression idea. (if one level is lost go to the next)
Level 1: 1-2-4-8-16
Level 2: 2-4-8-16-32
Level 3: 4-8-16-32-64
...and so on.
Quote from: ignatus on Jan 27, 07:55 AM 2016
Well now, to my logic this should work (most of the time)
I also think that this should not be dangerous, even thou.... you know... with that progression (with any progression)...
Thanks for another idea.
Hit and run it works. Continuous it does not
With discipline its a nice winner
My guess is it was never played at a $ 5 or $ 10 Min table.
Quote from: Tamino on Jan 27, 09:48 AM 2016
My guess is it was never played at a $ 5 or $ 10 Min table.
Test 2. Played with 5u bets, i reached the highest step in progression two times ;D.. so it's like playing with fire, it can bust at any time,..
Test 3. Still no loss..... reached step 4 (1-2-4-8) two times
played with 5u bets
According to your own chart it is a losing system. Why publish losing systems. Just for the sake of publishing ?
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Quote from: Tamino on Jan 27, 10:56 AM 2016
According to your own chart it is a losing system. Why publish losing systems. Just for the sake of publishing ?
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not more losing than any other system,... ofcourse matingale is very risky to play, but for small wingoals it could work, in the long run, hit and run
Quote from: Tamino on Jan 27, 11:58 AM 2016
............then take the time to create a short term winning system. You ain`t got the experience. I am a winner but not with crap being spewed out on message boards.
martingale is for losers never for winners.
you're right, martingale is not a good idea. , try Kattila's progression for a 50/50 bet then, +1u at loss, and keep the bet in the progressionline for the next trigger, until recovered, then reset to 1u.
But the original idea was good, but it doesn't hold for long, sooner or later a extreme bad situation comes, then no progression can save you
tamino, i was just experimenting with this one, and yes, it failed, i should've know better...i don't recommend this system for real play, since it's a losing system...that's why i put it in notepad. just an idea that didn't work. sry
(Test 4, played with Kattila's progression)
Ignatius ,
In all fairness to you I checked out your system MY WAY
Dublin bet $ 5 Min flat betting
1. session WWWWWWL Win goal achieved net win $ 75
2. session -L-L Two losses in a row net loss ( $ 30 )
3.session LWWWWWL Win goal achieved betting until first loss Net win $ 45
Having won 2 out of 3 sessions net $ 90.
Play at your own risk.
Quote from: Tamino on Jan 27, 03:47 PM 2016
Ignatius ,
In all fairness to you I checked out your system MY WAY
Dublin bet $ 5 Min flat betting
1. session WWWWWWL Win goal achieved net win $ 75
2. session -L-L Two losses in a row net loss ( $ 30 )
3.session LWWWWWL Win goal achieved betting until first loss Net win $ 45
Having won 2 out of 3 sessions net $ 90.
Play at your own risk.
Thanks for testing :) maybe i should try flatbet too... i should not give up on this one, perhaps? i don't know, i got 11-12 losses in a row that is the general extreme event that could happen playing with 18 numbers....but you can't play roulette at all if you're thinking about these extreme events...it's the risk you have to take, i guess? i've tried to find better betselections, and it's right as Steve says, the only way to win is to increase the hitrate with better betselections...
I posted getting of the table after 2 losses kn a row. Screw the casino. Its your bankroll. Only certified Idiots continue the march with a martingale.
Quote from: Tamino on Jan 27, 05:00 PM 2016
I posted getting of the table after 2 losses kn a row. Screw the casino. Its your bankroll. Only certified Idiots continue the march with a martingale.
Yes, you're right. FLATBET worked from my first attempt! it's not great profits, but still i reached my wingoal 100u playing with 5u bets,
This is how i played;
Stoploss after 2 losses in a row (and wait for a virtual win before betting again).
to win $ 500 ( 100 units) per session you must bring $ 5,000 . Which means in order to handle 3 sessions you must bting bankroll o
o the casino.$ 15,000.( The higher the bankroll the less should be the expected win goal percentege. )
You are under capitalized if you bring less.
For my 3 sessions above I required $ 600. or $ 200 per session..
For m
Quote from: ignatus on Jan 27, 05:05 PM 2016
Yes, you're right. FLATBET worked from my first attempt! it's not great profits, but still i reached my wingoal 100u playing with 5u bets,
This is how i played; Stoploss after 2 losses in a row (and wait for a virtual win before betting again).
Ignatus,
As always, great work.....much appreciated!!! :thumbsup:
I think it would be interesting to see how this tweak would look long-term with solid MM.
The reason I mention this is that nearly all of your graphs have the same pattern: the method works.........until it doesn't.
This method with flat bet has past the first test..........it won eventually. Now the question is: can you repeat this over a number of games with good MM.
Although we see many people test different bet-selections, we rarely see members apply proper MM to a decent method.
Remember, the goal is to win............how we get there.............much less important.
Many roads lead to Rome. It only depends upon which one we chose.
Test 2, FLATBET.
Thanks Tamino and thelaw, you are my inspiration, without you guys and this forum i wouldn't play roulette at all.
cheers
6/10 Games won, Flatbet.
Quote from: Tamino on Jan 27, 03:47 PM 2016
Ignatius ,
In all fairness to you I checked out your system MY WAY
Dublin bet $ 5 Min flat betting
1. session WWWWWWL Win goal achieved net win $ 75
2. session -L-L Two losses in a row net loss ( $ 30 )
3.session LWWWWWL Win goal achieved betting until first loss Net win $ 45
Having won 2 out of 3 sessions net $ 90.
Play at your own risk.
In your second session after the first loss did you bet the same three double streets or wait for a new trigger?
-Celtic
It is possible that I did not wait for a new trigger. In a B & M casino at a live table I must play every spin. I am always playing under those conditions. I hate standing at a table . Prefer sitting.
Quote from: Tamino on Jan 28, 10:54 AM 2016
It is possible that I did not wait for a new trigger. In a B & M casino at a live table I must play every spin. I am always playing under those conditions. I hate standing at a table . Prefer sitting.
Thank you for the quick reply.
I too hate to stand at the table waiting and always have one foot pointed at the door.
In the case of this three double street method at $5 a pop I only look to win 3x and then that session is over.
ignatus charts show that if you hit a good spot you can gain quickly but a run from hell will kill you.
There is no way I would play this sysyem for 50 spins or entertain using the good ol' martingale system. I agree 100% with your statement in a previous post ie.
"Only certified Idiots continue the march with a martingale".The amazing thing is people do not seem to catch on, or just plain do not listen to what others have warned them about, and they keep playing a martingale progression to the bitter end.
$5 Flat bet, two losses in a row ends that session, and 2-3 wins also ends the session.
Hit and Run has worked fine with this so far.
Again Thank You.
-Celtic
celticknit,
Very well stated by a proven winner. Welcome to the winner circle.
Tamino.