Don't know if this method have been posting before, so here goes.
Track 6 spins. DS that comes up:
2-3-6-1-4-4
Bet 1 unit that the same DS will come. If 0 comes, you bet the DS of your choise in the next round:
2-3-6-1-4-4 tracking
2-6-1-1-2-4 3 wins, bet along with previous 6.
5-5-1-1-1-4 3 wins
4-4-3-2-6-6 0 wins
4-1-2-2-0-4 2 wins, choose what DS you want to bet for 0.
1-1-2-1-5-3 2 wins (lost on the 5th ds, played the 4th)
Progression: Flat. On loss -1 unit on win +5 units.
In other words. If DS 1 2 3 4 5 6 in the first 6 spins you bet 1 2 3 4 5 6 the next six. 99% of the time the six DS wont come up in that order but often 1-3.
Test run. Stop loss 300 stop win 500+.
DS Info
5-5-5-5-3-3: tracking
3-1-1-5-2-5: 1 win
2-2-2-2-1-6: 0 wins
6-2-5-5-4-3: 1 win
5-6-4-2-6-1: 0 wins
2-1-6-4-6-5: 1 win
6-3-2-4-3-6: 1 win
6-6-5-5-5-1: 1 win
5-5-3-3-4-1: 0 wins
5-1-6-4-2-5: 1 win
5-2-5-4-5-3: 2 wins
4-1-5-6-4-5: 1 win
3-1-6-2-2-5: 2 wins
5-4-2-1-2-2: 1 win
0-4-1-2-1-3: 1 win
1-1-6-2-4-3: 3 wins (bet 1 on zero)
3-5-6-2-6-4: 2 wins
4-1-6-1-6-6: 2 wins
6-5-6-6-6-4: 2 wins
3-5-1-3-5-4: 2 wins
6-2-4-4-5-1: 1 win
1-3-1-4-5-3: 1 win
1-4-3-4 : 2 wins
20151202-0205 10u +510
See what happens if you bet in groups of 5
Buf if you win sit out remaining spins
Example
2 - 1 - 6 - 4 - 2 - 2
3 - 2 - 6 - v - v - v
V means virtual. You won 3rd attemp. Sit out next 3
Impressive stuff :thumbsup:
Let's give it a try
Impressive! What size of unit is your starting point?
Duisburg 01/01/2016 table 5
135 spins = + 14 units. FLAT
It recovers very fast . :thumbsup:
Btw I've put them in a 5 wide matrix
Same spins in 6 - wide matrix +4 Flat :thumbsup:
I would probably suggest after we got -10 .... bet 2 units.
BR 30 u
Win goal 15 u.
Or wait a virtual -10 and :love:
Duisburg 02/01/2016 table 5 .... 110 spins
Matrix 5 .... -10 Flat
Matrix 6 .... +22 Flat
Quote from: denzie on Feb 02, 03:05 AM 2016
Duisburg 01/01/2016 table 5
135 spins = + 14 units. FLAT
It recovers very fast . :thumbsup:
Btw I've put them in a 5 wide matrix
Quote from: denzie on Feb 02, 04:03 AM 2016
Duisburg 02/01/2016 table 5 .... 110 spins
Matrix 5 .... -10 Flat
Matrix 6 .... +22 Flat
so 5 wide won 14, then lost 10.
Was you betting every spin. Or sitting out after a win. Oh yes whilst waiting for the boy popped in corals on machine of death played against last doz using +1/-1 and parley +£ 4 in 12 spins
Yes every spin
Thanks for the tests denzie. 😊
Quote from: tuddilue on Feb 02, 01:51 AM 2016
Impressive! What size of unit is your starting point?
Thanks. 😊 I played the test with 10 units.
Celtic Casino 02/Feb/2016
42 spins = + 19 units. FLAT BET
6 Wide Matrix
V bets on 0
Seems almost too good to be true so far.
Only system I have tried which seems to favor flat betting.
Has anyone had a bad experience with this?
-Celtic
Quote :
*** Has anyone had a bad experience with this? ***
I can say i do have experience with this kind of strategys.
If you look at one of my latest systems i posted, i play same
but more complete system, i mean this :
If you put the DSs in 6 matrix you track Only
distance 6 between same DS. Why not track more distances at the same
time then take a decision ?(not easy of course ) If you track Matrix stile( wide 6,5, 4,3,2) then you have to track
more Matrix s at the same time, too complicated right ?
Then do the track in my stile :
DS/ distance
3
2
6
6 d1
2 d3
1
3 d6
5
3 d2
5 d2
1 d5
1 d1 and d6
4
3 d5
1 d3 and d4
5 d6 now i decide to attack d4, bet DS4
2 l1 bet DS3
5 d2 l2 bet DS1
1 d4 win
When track we count the distance starting from the second last DS hit,
and when attack we count from the last DS hit.
You can attack a distance after long absence, or attack one *active/hot* distance,
both ways flat bet or with positive progression. Both ways can experience bad runs,
but many times the poss. progrs. will save you. Other progression is one advised by
Winkel (for one DS) : each Fibo x 5 times , stay on the progression until in plus.
( 11111/ 11111/ 22222/ 33333/ 55555/ 88888/ etc...). One need big bankroll, but
can start from 0,10.
I attack missing distances but i use now different bet selection (s).
cheers
Thanks Kattila. Preciate it. :thumbsup:
I add some tests, nevermind the br stuff but to let you see wins and losses and also maybe to give some food for thought.
Quote from: Celticknits on Feb 02, 12:51 PM 2016
Celtic Casino 02/Feb/2016
42 spins = + 19 units. FLAT BET
6 Wide Matrix
V bets on 0
-Celtic
Thank you for testing Celtic. :thumbsup:
Hi. I have tested it (virtually, by taking numbers down) at 888casino these past 2 days, played at 5 different tables. So far it works surprisingly well.
Here's how I tested: continuous bet same as DS 6 numbers back, when it's a 0 wait a spin no bet, flatbet but if you lose 6 in a row double up until either back even or more OR 6 loses at double units. Total cost is 18 units, aim is 5 wins per table (around 10-20 units usually).
1. +15 units
2. +12 units
3. -14 units
4. +8 units
5. +10 units
6. +20 units
7. +13 units
8. +5 units (kids calling)
So +69 units in 8 sessions... Might have to give this a try when I'm not too tired to play for real (as I am now, I make too many mistakes even on a simple system like this... Well maybe not this one, but I got burned in the past playing tired so no more).
Stay lucky everyone!
Pretty simple and it won 32 units on 00 thru 78 spins---why it works I have no idea lol .....def. worth some more tests
Quote from: Tomla021 on Feb 02, 10:46 PM 2016
Pretty simple and it won 32 units on 00 thru 78 spins---why it works I have no idea lol .....def. worth some more tests
-Tomla
How did you play it?
-Celtic
Flat betting a bet that pays 6 to 1 is nice.....
I have a B&M casino within minutes of my house.
I do not know if that is a good thing or a bad thing but.............
Anyways I tried this out yesterday and played flatbet.
To me if you are going to flatbet then flatbet do not start increasing your bets after x bets because of losses.
To me that is not flatbetting.
I won yesterday but like Tomla I'll be damned if I know why.
So today I trekked over to give it a try again only this time I decided to just V bet after a win on one line and record the numbers to play in the next line. I played a matrix of 6.
With a 1unit bet I was up to +12 after 60 spins.
Since I was only playing $1 bets with a session BR of $30 not bad.
In other posts I noticed a suggestion of 50% Win/Stop
Had I not got carried away I could have walked with $18 instead of $12, about 12 spins sooner.
When I got home I took the numbers played and analyzed them.
This is what I found:
With a matrix of 4 numbers and playing every time I would have ended up with -6 units
With a matrix of 4 numbers and stopping after a win on a line I would have ended up with +10 units
With a matrix of 5 numbers and playing every time I would have ended up with +7 units
With a matrix of 5 numbers and stopping after a win on a line I would have ended up with +12 units
Had I not stopped after a win on a line I would have ended up with +8 instead of the +12 with the matrix of 6 numbers.
-Celtic
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 02, 11:00 PM 2016
Flat betting a bet that pays 6 to 1 is nice.....
-RG
My casino only pays 5:1 on a DS
-Celtic
On a 00 wheel, its real easy to remember. 5 pays out 6 AND 6 pays out 5.
Ken
I made two more test but this time I tracked two tables at the same time and waiting for a full 6 matrix loss then bet with 1 units. If I get a full 6 matrix loss again I raised to 2 units.
Aiming for 10+ units.
Test 1: +15 units
Test 2: +10 units
Will post the chart later.
A full 6 matrix loss could come quite often not often. I´ve only experienced 3 6 matrix losses one time and Ive tested almost 1000 spins now.
Quote from: Celticknits on Feb 02, 11:28 PM 2016
-RG
My casino only pays 5:1 on a DS
-Celtic
Yes. What i meant
Quote from: Celticknits on Feb 02, 11:25 PM 2016
I have a B&M casino within minutes of my house.
I do not know if that is a good thing or a bad thing but.............
Anyways I tried this out yesterday and played flatbet.
To me if you are going to flatbet then flatbet do not start increasing your bets after x bets because of losses.
To me that is not flatbetting.
I won yesterday but like Tomla I'll be damned if I know why.
So today I trekked over to give it a try again only this time I decided to just V bet after a win on one line and record the numbers to play in the next line. I played a matrix of 6.
With a 1unit bet I was up to +12 after 60 spins.
Since I was only playing $1 bets with a session BR of $30 not bad.
In other posts I noticed a suggestion of 50% Win/Stop
Had I not got carried away I could have walked with $18 instead of $12, about 12 spins sooner.
When I got home I took the numbers played and analyzed them.
This is what I found:
With a matrix of 4 numbers and playing every time I would have ended up with -6 units
With a matrix of 4 numbers and stopping after a win on a line I would have ended up with +10 units
With a matrix of 5 numbers and playing every time I would have ended up with +7 units
With a matrix of 5 numbers and stopping after a win on a line I would have ended up with +12 units
Had I not stopped after a win on a line I would have ended up with +8 instead of the +12 with the matrix of 6 numbers.
-Celtic
Ive seem this happen before different matrix lengths being the difference between -10 and +10
I do like the idea of after a win on a line stop betting until next line
here are the chart for above test. Thanks guys for testing aswell. I should add that after win I sat and waited the remaining spins out.
flat is the way to go but I wanted to see some progression test and will continue to test both.
this is from zuma 15k american wheel
5 6 1 3 1 2
3 4 5 1 2 5 = 0
4 6 1 3 5 1 = 0
2 6 4 2 0 0 = 1
0 4 3 6 4 4 = 0
1 1 4 3 4 2 = 1
5 3 0 1 5 4 = 0
0 2 3 5 5 6 = 1
5 2 4 1 4 3 = 2
1 4 4 6 3 3 = 2
2 6 6 1 3 3 = 2
2 1 2 3 3 3 = 3
3 3 1 4 1 1 = 0
3 3 2 4 3 5 = 3
6 6 5 1 6 1 = 0
0 4 4 0 2 6 = 0
1 6 3 0 5 5 = 0
6 3 6 4 1 6 = 0
3 1 2 5 2 2 = 0
3 5 1 4 5 2 = 2
spins 1230-1350
It was looking good until it go to this point in testing and I stopped. How would you handle this?
Quote from: Big EZ on Feb 03, 10:29 AM 2016
this is from zuma 15k american wheel
5 6 1 3 1 2
3 4 5 1 2 5 = 0
4 6 1 3 5 1 = 0
2 6 4 2 0 0 = 1
0 4 3 6 4 4 = 0
1 1 4 3 4 2 = 1
5 3 0 1 5 4 = 0
0 2 3 5 5 6 = 1
5 2 4 1 4 3 = 2
1 4 4 6 3 3 = 2
2 6 6 1 3 3 = 2
2 1 2 3 3 3 = 3
3 3 1 4 1 1 = 0
3 3 2 4 3 5 = 3
6 6 5 1 6 1 = 0
0 4 4 0 2 6 = 0 < played this -6
1 6 3 0 5 5 = 0 < not this, since you have two 0 last matrix
6 3 6 4 1 6 = 0 < not this either since 0 came up on last matrix
3 1 2 5 2 2 = 0 < played this with 1 units -12
3 5 1 4 5 2 = 2 < played this with 2 units -2. 1 win so wait the rest be virtual
spins 1230-1350
It was looking good until it go to this point in testing and I stopped. How would you handle this?
Thanks for testing and I forgot to add a thing I did on my test above. When 0 comes I don't play that matrix 6 at all. Look above how I would play if I used progression. -3 if you played 2 units on the next matrix loss and 3 on the last.
Quote from: Big EZ on Feb 03, 10:29 AM 2016
this is from zuma 15k american wheel
5 6 1 3 1 2
3 4 5 1 2 5 = 0
4 6 1 3 5 1 = 0
2 6 4 2 0 0 = 1
0 4 3 6 4 4 = 0
1 1 4 3 4 2 = 1
5 3 0 1 5 4 = 0
0 2 3 5 5 6 = 1
5 2 4 1 4 3 = 2
1 4 4 6 3 3 = 2
2 6 6 1 3 3 = 2
2 1 2 3 3 3 = 3
3 3 1 4 1 1 = 0
3 3 2 4 3 5 = 3
6 6 5 1 6 1 = 0
0 4 4 0 2 6 = 0
1 6 3 0 5 5 = 0
6 3 6 4 1 6 = 0
3 1 2 5 2 2 = 0
3 5 1 4 5 2 = 2
spins 1230-1350
It was looking good until it go to this point in testing and I stopped. How would you handle this?
-Big EZ
5 6 1 3 1 2
3 4 5 1 2 5 = 0 -6
4 6 1 3 5 1 = 0 -12
2 6 4 2 0 0 = 1 -8
0 4 3 6 4 4 = 0 -14
1 1 4 3 4 2 = 1 -13
5 3 0 1 5 4 = 0 -19
0 2 3 5 5 6 = 1 -18
5 2 4 1 4 3 = 2 -14
1 4 4 6 3 3 = 2 -11 STOP and accept the loss after approx 1 hour of playing
2 6 6 1 3 3 = 2 -10
2 1 2 3 3 3 = 3 -5
3 3 1 4 1 1 = 0 -11
3 3 2 4 3 5 = 3 -6
6 6 5 1 6 1 = 0 -12
0 4 4 0 2 6 = 0 -18
1 6 3 0 5 5 = 0 -24
6 3 6 4 1 6 = 0 -30 STOP/LOSS Reached
3 1 2 5 2 2 = 0 -36
3 5 1 4 5 2 = 2 -31
Personally I would have stopped this sequence after 1 hour of playing and accept the loss.
The numbers shown represent flat betting and a stop after the first win on any one line.
This is the first negative listing I have seen for this method.
-Celtic
I do them all aswell.
5 6 1 3 1 2
3 4 5 1 2 5 = 0
4 6 1 3 5 1 = 0 -6
2 6 4 2 0 0 = 1 -2
0 4 3 6 4 4 = 0
1 1 4 3 4 2 = 1 -1
5 3 0 1 5 4 = 0
0 2 3 5 5 6 = 1 +0
5 2 4 1 4 3 = 2
1 4 4 6 3 3 = 2
2 6 6 1 3 3 = 2
2 1 2 3 3 3 = 3
3 3 1 4 1 1 = 0
3 3 2 4 3 5 = 3 +5
6 6 5 1 6 1 = 0
0 4 4 0 2 6 = 0 -1
1 6 3 0 5 5 = 0 < not this, since you have two 0 last matrix
6 3 6 4 1 6 = 0 < not this either since 0 came up on last matrix
3 1 2 5 2 2 = 0 -7
3 5 1 4 5 2 = 2 +3
Maybe that clears it up how I would play. I don't play every spin anymore.
Quote from: celescliff on Feb 03, 11:08 AM 2016
Thanks for testing and I forgot to add a thing I did on my test above. When 0 comes I don't play that matrix 6 at all. Look above how I would play if I used progression. -3 if you played 2 units on the next matrix loss and 3 on the last.
-celescliff
Thank you for the additional information
Not playing the rest of a matrix line or the following 6 if a 0 showed in the previous line would definitely help with MM.
I would still flat bet and do not want to enter any form of progression....Just me
I will try this at the B&M casino soon and let you know how it works out.
-Celtic
Looking at all your guys tests i notice
Wait for 3 unique DS then bet the other 3. Its an even money EC bet. Can use a mild MM
8)
Quote from: Celticknits on Feb 03, 11:21 AM 2016
-celescliff
Thank you for the additional information
Not playing the rest of a matrix line or the following 6 if a 0 showed in the previous line would definitely help with MM.
I would still flat bet and do not want to enter any form of progression....Just me
-Celtic
I favor flat bet aswell, but currently testing how a very mild progression would work.
Quote
I will try this at the B&M casino soon and let you know how it works out.
Looking forward to it. :thumbsup:
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 03, 11:28 AM 2016
Looking at all your guys tests i notice
Wait for 3 unique DS then bet the other 3. Its an even money EC bet. Can use a mild MM
Thanks RG, will look for it while I do more test. :thumbsup:
EDIT:
Noticed a mistake I did, so to avoid confusion here's the correction:
5 6 1 3 1 2
3 4 5 1 2 5 = 0
4 6 1 3 5 1 = 0 -6
2 6 4 2 0 0 = 1 -2
0 4 3 6 4 4 = 0
1 1 4 3 4 2 = 1 < dont play since 0 came up last matrix
5 3 0 1 5 4 = 0
0 2 3 5 5 6 = 1 < dont play this either
5 2 4 1 4 3 = 2
1 4 4 6 3 3 = 2
2 6 6 1 3 3 = 2
2 1 2 3 3 3 = 3
3 3 1 4 1 1 = 0
3 3 2 4 3 5 = 3 +3
6 6 5 1 6 1 = 0
0 4 4 0 2 6 = 0 -3
1 6 3 0 5 5 = 0 < not this, since you have two 0 last matrix
6 3 6 4 1 6 = 0 < not this either since 0 came up on last matrix
3 1 2 5 2 2 = 0 -9
3 5 1 4 5 2 = 2 +1
Actually. When u have 3 unique DS bet those
If you have 6 2 1 bet 6 2 1........
Works better from what im seeing
Eventually variance will bite. The wins come quick but will bite eventually
So maybe
When have 3 unique DS bet the other 3
Next
When have 3 unique DS bet those 3
Switch back and forth
Bet opposite then bet same. Etc
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 03, 12:10 PM 2016
Eventually variance will bite. The wins come quick but will bite eventually
So maybe
When have 3 unique DS bet the other 3
Next
When have 3 unique DS bet those 3
Switch back and forth
Bet opposite then bet same. Etc
Can make a thread so this one doesn't get mixed up. ;)
Next test. Again, even if I win 3 times I only aim for 1 win and wait out the rest.
Recieved a couple of pm from some that aren't sure how I play this so I updated the previous test with explanation and corrected the BR since I calculated wrong.
Hope it's clear now.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 03, 12:10 PM 2016
Eventually variance will bite. The wins come quick but will bite eventually
-RG
I hear you but with only a $30 BR at risk I do not mind playing live.
So far I am up over $100 and have not come anywhere near losing the $30 BR in a session.
I am sure that it will happen but I still like this method.
As a hit and run player the only thing I do not care for is the amount of time spent at the table when things go a bit south but that seems to be the price to pay to end up in a profit.
All good for the price in my opinion.
-Celtic
Quote from: celescliff on Feb 03, 02:54 PM 2016
Recieved a couple of pm from some that aren't sure how I play this so I updated the previous test with explanation and corrected the BR since I calculated wrong.
Hope it's clear now.
-celescliff
The triggers seem to keep changing.
Now if you get a win on a line you do not play the next line and look for a Loss or Non 0 in it.
Looks safer but I think I will do some virtual testing before my next trip to the B&M.
FYI -This is the only system I am using for roulette.
No matter what, I am having fun and for the price I get a lot of entertainment from other players wondering what the heck I am doing.
-Celtic
I only have access to 0/00 live wheel play.
Just wondering, has anybody tried this on the Euro wheel live?
-Celtic
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Now if you get a win on a line you do not play the next line and look for a Loss or Non 0 in it.
Looks safer but I think I will do some virtual testing before my next trip to the B&M.
Exactly. The matrix before must not have a zero in it and the matrix you currently in should not have a win. :thumbsup:
Quote
FYI -This is the only system I am using for roulette.
No matter what, I am having fun and for the price I get a lot of entertainment from other players wondering what the heck I am doing.
Thanks alot. :)
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I only have access to 0/00 live wheel play.
Just wondering, has anybody tried this on the Euro wheel live?
I'm using RX myself when I'm testing. I sat in the lobby for about an hour and track 3 live tables and the result was positive aswell.
0-1-2-3-4-5
1-2-2-4-5-6 < you wont bet on next matrix since we have a zero in the last matrix AND have a win in the current matrix (third spin)
1-2-3-4-5-6
2-3-4-5-6-5 < you bet on next matrix since we have no zero in the last matrix AND have no wins in the current matrix and zeros.
If I'm not clear.
Next test.
DS Wins Info BR
5-5-5-0-1-2
6-1-5-5-2-6 1
4-1-1-6-6-1 1
5-5-1-2-5-2 1
2-3-4-4-6-2 1
3-6-4-3-2-6 1
3-4-1-1-6-6 2
2-5-2-1-1-4 1
5-3-1-6-4-3 0
3-4-2-3-1-3 1 0
4-2-2-1-4-5 1
4-5-6-5-1-2 1
1-5-5-5-5-1 2
4-6-1-1-6-4 0
3-2-5-1-4-3 1 +2
5-3-4-5-1-2 0
4-2-6-0-1-4 1 +3
2-3-4-0-3-6 0 nb
4-2-4-4-4-2 1
5-1-2-6-5-0 0 nb
2-5-4-6-5-5 2
1-6-5-3-2-1 0
6-5-3-5-1-2 0 -3
2-5-4-6-4-5 1 +1
2-1-6-2-4-2 2
5-0-1-4-5-3 0 nb
5-6-2-0-1-5 1
1-1-5-3-3-4 0 nb
4-5-6-1-1-1 0
5-5-2-1-2-2 2 +5
4-6-5-6-2-3 1
2-6-1-5-5-2 1
4-3-3-5-6-4 1
6-5-4-5-4-2 1
2-4-1-4-3-3 0
1-3-1-5-2-2 1 +8
6-1-6-4-5-3 0
4-1-5-2-5-3 3 +12
5-3-3-5-6-1 0
3-2-3-4-3-4 1 +15
5-4-2-4-2-1 1
247 spins
2015-12-15
Table 5
Duisburg
Quote from: celescliff on Feb 03, 06:48 PM 2016
Next test.
DS Wins Info BR
5-5-5-0-1-2
6-1-5-5-2-6 1
4-1-1-6-6-1 1
5-5-1-2-5-2 1
2-3-4-4-6-2 1
3-6-4-3-2-6 1
3-4-1-1-6-6 2
2-5-2-1-1-4 1
5-3-1-6-4-3 0
3-4-2-3-1-3 1 0
4-2-2-1-4-5 1
4-5-6-5-1-2 1
1-5-5-5-5-1 2
4-6-1-1-6-4 0
3-2-5-1-4-3 1 +2
5-3-4-5-1-2 0
4-2-6-0-1-4 1 +3
2-3-4-0-3-6 0 nb
4-2-4-4-4-2 1
5-1-2-6-5-0 0 nb
2-5-4-6-5-5 2
1-6-5-3-2-1 0
6-5-3-5-1-2 0 -3
2-5-4-6-4-5 1 +1
2-1-6-2-4-2 2
5-0-1-4-5-3 0 nb
5-6-2-0-1-5 1
1-1-5-3-3-4 0 nb
4-5-6-1-1-1 0
5-5-2-1-2-2 2 +5
4-6-5-6-2-3 1
2-6-1-5-5-2 1
4-3-3-5-6-4 1
6-5-4-5-4-2 1
2-4-1-4-3-3 0
1-3-1-5-2-2 1 +8
6-1-6-4-5-3 0
4-1-5-2-5-3 3 +12
5-3-3-5-6-1 0
3-2-3-4-3-4 1 +15
5-4-2-4-2-1 1
247 spins
2015-12-15
Table 5
Duisburg
-celescliff
Wow that would have have been a lot waiting around between some of the betting triggers for a +15 unit win if you plaid this sequence live in a B&M.
At 30 spins per hour that would have taken over 8 hours.
Talk about a minimum wage job (LOL).
-Celtic
You bring up a great point as I have noted in the past. Number of ACTUAL spins PER HOUR at a REAL casino.....must be considered when posting testing results.
Ken
Quote from: Celticknits on Feb 03, 08:25 PM 2016
-celescliff
Wow that would have have been a lot waiting around between some of the betting triggers for a +15 unit win if you plaid this sequence live in a B&M.
At 30 spins per hour that would have taken over 8 hours.
Talk about a minimum wage job (LOL).
-Celtic
1 unit = whatever units you wish to play with. It doesent have to be 1$, if you played with 10$ or 25$ dollars than 150$ or 375$ is not bad at all in 8 hours.
Quote from: MrJ on Feb 03, 08:35 PM 2016
You bring up a great point as I have noted in the past. Number of ACTUAL spins PER HOUR at a REAL casino.....must be considered when posting testing results.
Ken
I play at online casino with 60 spin averege per hour, which I know a lot of people do here. Plus I track three tables which I also know a lot of people do, at once and this was for just one. Previous tests have been shorter.
Quote from: celescliff on Feb 04, 02:14 AM 2016
1 unit = whatever units you wish to play with. It doesent have to be 1$, if you played with 10$ or 25$ dollars than 150$ or 375$ is not bad at all in 8 hours.
Understood but I think you would be too obvious to the casino staff in a B&M sitting there for 8 hours and waiting quite a while between bets. I have been approached in the past for waiting just 4 spins for a trigger to show and was told to either bet more or let another player into the game. This is a great method but I think it would be better played online as you stated below where there are a lot more spins per hour.
I play at online casino with 60 spin averege per hour, which I know a lot of people do here. Plus I track three tables which I also know a lot of people do, at once and this was for just one. Previous tests have been shorter.
I think you are right. I will have to set myself up for online casinos.
I still think this is a great system!!!
-celescliff
Thanks, Celtic. And good luck. :thumbsup:
You all know i use RNG well heres some and its does the job
DS W Info BR
5-5-5-6-4-5
4-4-5-2-1-1 1
5-1-4-4-3-2 0
6-5-3-6-3-0 1 +1
6-5-5-0-2-5 2 nb
5-4-5-4-1-1 1 nb
1-5-4-2-2-3 0
2-0-5-5-2-2 1 +2
6-6-4-3-3-1 0 nb
3-2-6-1-5-4 0
3-1-1-3-1-3 1 +7
6-5-6-2-1-3 2 nb
5-5-6-2-4-1 3 nb
1-5-4-1-3-4 1 nb
3-3-5-3-0-6 0 nb
1-1-0-6-2-6 1 nb
4-6-6-1-3-6 1 nb
3-3-2-3-5-5 0
5-3-6-6-1-5 2 +11
2-4-3-3-4-5 1 nb
5-1-3-1-3-3 1 nb
4-1-4-4-1-2 1 nb
6-0-1-2-2-4 0 nb
1-3-1-5-1-1 1 nb
3-1-5-3-5-3 0
1-3-3-1-2-3 1 +11
5-6-4-5-2-3 2 nb
1-6-2-4-5-6 1 nb
1-3-4-1-1-0 1 nb
5-1-5-5-6-4 0 nb
1-4-4-1-4-5 0
2-4-1-2-4(end) 2 +15
Thanks notto for sharing. :thumbsup:
Zumma pg 37
4 4 2 4 6 1
5 2 5 6 1 5 L
5 0 2 6 1 3 W
4 5 6 6 2 4 W
2 6 2 6 4 4 W
4 5 2 3 1 2 W
1 4 3 3 3 5 W
4 6 4 4 5 3 L
0 3 1 3 6 4 L
5 6 3 1 4 6 L
I don't show a profit.
great strategy
Quote from: celescliff on Feb 03, 11:14 AM 2016
I do them all aswell.
5 6 1 3 1 2
3 4 5 1 2 5 = 0 <<<<<<<<<<<<
4 6 1 3 5 1 = 0 -6
2 6 4 2 0 0 = 1 -2
0 4 3 6 4 4 = 0 <<<<<<<<<<<<
1 1 4 3 4 2 = 1 -1
5 3 0 1 5 4 = 0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
I'm not sure how you keep score. The "0" doesn't mean that
you broke even. You lost all 6 bets. -6.
please dont' say there are zeros. They al don't have zeros. :question:
0 2 3 5 5 6 = 1 +0
5 2 4 1 4 3 = 2
1 4 4 6 3 3 = 2
2 6 6 1 3 3 = 2
2 1 2 3 3 3 = 3
3 3 1 4 1 1 = 0
3 3 2 4 3 5 = 3 +5
6 6 5 1 6 1 = 0
0 4 4 0 2 6 = 0 -1
1 6 3 0 5 5 = 0 < not this, since you have two 0 last matrix
6 3 6 4 1 6 = 0 < not this either since 0 came up on last matrix
3 1 2 5 2 2 = 0 -7
3 5 1 4 5 2 = 2 +3
Maybe that clears it up how I would play. I don't play every spin anymore.
Read this:
0-1-2-3-4-5
1-2-2-4-5-6 < you wont bet on next matrix since we have a zero in the last matrix AND have a win in the current matrix (third spin)
1-2-3-4-5-6
2-3-4-5-6-5 < you bet on next matrix since we have no zero in the last matrix AND have no wins in the current matrix and no zeros in the current matrix aswell.
Then read carefully what I'm doing here:
5 6 1 3 1 2
3 4 5 1 2 5 = 0
4 6 1 3 5 1 = 0 -6
2 6 4 2 0 0 = 1 -2
0 4 3 6 4 4 = 0
1 1 4 3 4 2 = 1 < dont play since 0 came up last matrix
5 3 0 1 5 4 = 0
0 2 3 5 5 6 = 1 < dont play this either
5 2 4 1 4 3 = 2
1 4 4 6 3 3 = 2
2 6 6 1 3 3 = 2
2 1 2 3 3 3 = 3
3 3 1 4 1 1 = 0
3 3 2 4 3 5 = 3 +3
6 6 5 1 6 1 = 0
0 4 4 0 2 6 = 0 -3
1 6 3 0 5 5 = 0 < not this, since you have two 0 last matrix
6 3 6 4 1 6 = 0 < not this either since 0 came up on last matrix
3 1 2 5 2 2 = 0 -9
3 5 1 4 5 2 = 2 +1 (this chart was while I tested doing a mild progression so I bet 2 units on this)
Quote
I'm not sure how you keep score. The "0" doesn't mean that
you broke even. You lost all 6 bets. -6.
0 = number of wins -6 is the current bankroll.
4 4 2 4 6 1 tracking
5 2 5 6 1 5 L (here we have a valid loss with no zeros in the previous matrix and no wins and zeros in the current matrix)
5 0 2 6 1 3 W +5 (win on first spin +5)
4 5 6 6 2 4 W nb
2 6 2 6 4 4 W nb
4 5 2 3 1 2 W nb
1 4 3 3 3 5 W nb (there are no bets all the way since we need a valid loss)
4 6 4 4 5 3 L (here we have a valid loss with no zeros in the previous matrix and wins and zeros in the current matrix)
0 3 1 3 6 4 L -1 (had a loss here -1)
5 6 3 1 4 6 L nb (no bet since we have a zero in the previous matrix)
I need more spins but if you don't have anymore, -1 on this.
Quote from: celescliff on Feb 04, 08:32 PM 2016
Read this:
0-1-2-3-4-5
1-2-2-4-5-6 < you wont bet on next matrix since we have a zero in the last matrix AND have a win in the current matrix (third spin)
1-2-3-4-5-6
2-3-4-5-6-5 < you bet on next matrix since we have no zero in the last matrix AND have no wins in the current matrix and no zeros in the current matrix aswell.
Then read carefully what I'm doing here:
5 6 1 3 1 2
3 4 5 1 2 5 = 0
4 6 1 3 5 1 = 0 -6
2 6 4 2 0 0 = 1 -2
0 4 3 6 4 4 = 0
1 1 4 3 4 2 = 1 < dont play since 0 came up last matrix
5 3 0 1 5 4 = 0
0 2 3 5 5 6 = 1 < dont play this either
5 2 4 1 4 3 = 2
1 4 4 6 3 3 = 2
2 6 6 1 3 3 = 2
2 1 2 3 3 3 = 3
3 3 1 4 1 1 = 0
3 3 2 4 3 5 = 3 +3
6 6 5 1 6 1 = 0
0 4 4 0 2 6 = 0 -3
1 6 3 0 5 5 = 0 < not this, since you have two 0 last matrix
6 3 6 4 1 6 = 0 < not this either since 0 came up on last matrix
3 1 2 5 2 2 = 0 -9
3 5 1 4 5 2 = 2 +1 (this chart was while I tested doing a mild progression so I bet 2 units on this)
0 = number of wins -6 is the current bankroll.
4 4 2 4 6 1 tracking
5 2 5 6 1 5 L (here we have a valid loss with no zeros in the previous matrix and no wins and zeros in the current matrix)
5 0 2 6 1 3 W +5 (win on first spin +5)
4 5 6 6 2 4 W nb
2 6 2 6 4 4 W nb
4 5 2 3 1 2 W nb
1 4 3 3 3 5 W nb (there are no bets all the way since we need a valid loss)
4 6 4 4 5 3 L (here we have a valid loss with no zeros in the previous matrix and wins and zeros in the current matrix)
0 3 1 3 6 4 L -1 (had a loss here -1)
5 6 3 1 4 6 L nb (no bet since we have a zero in the previous matrix)
I need more spins but if you don't have anymore, -1 on this.
not sure when that adaptation came in. But it's also troubling to me
that I have a cluster of wins, and then the losses.
So I guess I might hat one win in the first row, and then sit out
all the "wins". and then he hit with a loss after waiting for the
row of losses as a signal.
A lot of sitting around.
Quote from: mogul397 on Feb 04, 10:13 PM 2016
not sure when that adaptation came in. But it's also troubling to me
that I have a cluster of wins, and then the losses.
So I guess I might hat one win in the first row, and then sit out
all the "wins". and then he hit with a loss after waiting for the
row of losses as a signal.
A lot of sitting around.
Yeah, that's why I track 3 tables at once.
I've also been using another tweak that you bet on every matrix except if a zero come in the last matrix and in the current matrix.
These two games are played with real money and playing with 10$ so last night I made 270$ using this tweak. These two took 1 hour to play. Stop at +10 and stop loss -30.