This is a martingale method
call me stupid
the math guys say it will fail. steve will laugh.
all good
requirement: A gambler who plays recreationally who uses money they can afford to lose who seeks to not beat an unbeatable game. Math is not welcome here because we do not care about math. this is gambling, and gambling is a risk. MONEY U CAN AFFORD TO LOSE PERIOD
now that we have that out of the way so i do not get pounced on, here is the method:
red shows. red is the trigger. now bet black with a two step progression of 1,2 on any win stop
win at any point, stop, lose both tries stop and wait for a black to show and then a red to show.
next time a red shows (after a black), bet a 2 step progression on black of 4,8
win at any step wait for a red again. bet black after. lose both tries we stop and wait for a black and red again
red shows, 2 step progression on black, 16, 32.
has not lost on zumma.
got the BALLS and the fury and the money u can afford to lose go for it.
to lose:
R
R
R
B
R
R
R
B
R
R
R
SHOW ME THAT SEQUENCE. if u find this sequence it loses. look thru ur past spins. if u do not see this sequence then u win money. If you understand the rules, to loss you would need 3 red in a row, then 1 black, 3 reds in a row then 1 black, then 3 reds in a row again
- Rookie Boy
@Rouletteghost - to lose, the sequence can also be a series of R three times or more, then B, then a series of R three times or more n so on right?
Quote from: Willie on Mar 14, 10:14 AM 2016
@Rouletteghost - to lose, the sequence can also be a series of R three times or more, then B, then a series of R three times or more n so on right?
That's the same as the one rouletteghost has said, because whatever happens after the second bet(after the third red) you stop.
Quote from: Run4Lyf on Mar 14, 10:42 AM 2016
That's the same as the one rouletteghost has said, because whatever happens after the second bet(after the third red) you stop.
Thanks! Got it now
Hi RouletteGhost
Is the below betting example correct?
Spin Result Status
----------------------------------
1 BLACK No Bet
2 RED Bet 1 next spin
3 RED Loose, Bet 2 next spin
4 BLACK Win 4
5 RED No Bet
6 RED No Bet
7 BLACK No Bet
8 RED Bet 1 next spin
9 RED Loose, Bet 2 next spin
10 RED Loose, Stop betting
11 BLACK No Bet
12 RED Bet 8 next spin
13 BLACK Win 16
Quote from: Rourke on Mar 14, 01:59 PM 2016
Hi RouletteGhost
Is the below betting example correct?
Spin Result Status
----------------------------------
1 BLACK No Bet
2 RED Bet 1 next spin
3 RED Loose, Bet 2 next spin
4 BLACK Win 4
5 RED No Bet
6 RED No Bet
7 BLACK No Bet
8 RED Bet 1 next spin
9 RED Loose, Bet 2 next spin
10 RED Loose, Stop betting
11 BLACK No Bet
12 RED Bet 8 next spin
13 BLACK Win 16
Rourke- I think there was a betting opportunity on the 6th spin
You are right... I just assumed, that after a win you would reset and wait for another Black / Red and then bet on Black.
I like the chaoticness of this bet and of course it can also be applied to the other EC bets :-)
I've just been testing this on a live wheel for a 100 spins - A total profit of 15.
Here is the result:
Spin Color Number Bet Win/Loose
1 r 27
2 r 2 1 -1
3 b 29 2 2
4 b 6
5 r 4
6 b 18 1 1
7 r 36
8 r 32 1 -1
9 r 4 2 -2
10 b 30
11 b 17
12 b 28
13 b 32
14 r 27
15 b 24 4 4
16 r 3
17 r 12 1 -1
18 r 12 2 -2
19 r 30
20 r 12
21 b 31
22 r 9
23 b 2 4 4
24 r 9
25 b 11 1 1
26 r 9
27 g 0 1 -1
28 r 25
29 r 5 2 -2
30 b 29 4 4
31 b 35
32 b 13
33 b 24
34 r 16
35 b 13 1 1
36 r 16
37 b 31 1 1
38 b 4
39 r 3
40 r 1 1 -1
41 b 17 2 2
42 b 28
43 b 6
44 r 32
45 g 0 1 -1
46 b 4
47 r 23
48 b 26 2 2
49 r 5
50 r 25 1 -1
51 r 32 2 -2
52 b 29
53 r 7
54 b 33 4 4
55 b 22
56 b 6
57 r 9
58 r 34 1 -1
59 b 17 2 2
60 b 28
61 r 3
62 r 16 1 -1
63 r 18 2 -2
64 b 26
65 b 8
66 b 24
67 b 33
68 r 12
69 r 3 4 -4
70 r 18 8 -8
71 b 33
72 r 30
73 r 27 16 -16
74 r 32 32 -32
75 r 1
76 b 33
77 b 35
78 r 16
79 b 8 64 64
80 r 14
81 r 25 1 -1
82 r 27 2 -2
83 r 5
84 r 25
85 r 30
86 b 26
87 b 2
88 b 8
89 b 26
90 r 3
91 r 32 4 -4
92 b 20 8 8
93 b 8
94 b 10
95 r 1
96 r 18 1 -1
97 r 32 2 -2
98 b 31
99 r 3
100 b 31 4 4
you guys got it
it is chaotic. the only losing sequence is RRR B RRR B RRR. in my testing (zumma and live wheel), by the time you hit that, you are in profit anyways....seen it once so far
and it uses newbie, rookie principles of doubling after a loss
however what I have been LOOKING to do is beat rare patterns by using a progression.....they say it cant be done but i do it daily in testing with ideas like 3 uniques in a row not repeating....to me progression or no progression means nothing as at the end of the day its gambling with money that we can afford to lose (i hope)...
i have never played with money i could not afford to lose. its 90% test 10% play for me
a capped martingale really is not the devil in disguise people make it out to be, either you are gambling with recreation money or you arent. with the small unit amount i use, i would lose less then the big cats who flat bet
good luck
Odd and even? sure
ODD, now bet even twice. lose? wait for EVEN to show again, then an ODD then bet even twice. lose? wait for EVEN again and then ODD then bet even twice.
to lose:
OOO E OOO E OOO
im a rookie according to the mods, so we shall call it Rookie 2.0
the more i think about progressions or flat bet the more I say "who is anyone to say whats better". the math guys using $100 chips flat and have a day minus $3000 any different then the guy playing marty with $1 chips and has a losing day of 1k? i dont think so
QuoteThis is a martingale method
call me stupid
the math guys say it will fail. steve will laugh.
all good
Question: If you already know that they system is stupid, then why are you testing it?
Is it because you don't trust anyone that has a background or degree in mathematics? Do you believe that people like Dr. Thorp are purposefully lying to you? Is it because you don't trust gaming experts and history?
Do you really think that the Rookie King Martingale is original or of any value whatsoever?
You should take the time to read history and study what the experts have to say. Build on the knowledge and and learn from the mistakes of others, since you won't live long enough to make all of the mistakes yourself.
Quote from: The General on Mar 14, 07:40 PM 2016
Do you really think that the Rookie King Martingale is original or of any value whatsoever?
does not matter how one plays in a negative expectation game. you may BELIEVE your method of play is better, but we got the same house edge. remember that. progression or no progression.
Look, I know the story.
You saw the game and you became excited.
The first system that you came across was likely to double up on the dozens or ECs. At the time you thought that you'd just discovered the holy grail...your own ATM.
Unfortunately, what you've found is a dead end. One of many that have fooled system players around the world. Up as you lose progressions are a fools folly.
But don't be blue...you really can beat the wheel. You really can overcome the house edge Focus on what the experts have to say. Read what the casino risk consultants are discussing. Read on the evolution of the wheel. Read History. Focus on the wheel, not the layout.
If you want to win you can't be lazy. And don't buy a system!
A good place for all new gambler's to start is to get a hold of an online copy of "Beating the Wheel", by Barnhart. You should be able to get a copy for just a few bucks.
Good luck, and wake the hell up! You're wasting time away from your friends and loved ones by searching for "just the right progression".
Sincerely,
The General
ok
THANKS!
by the way i just signed a contract for a house 45 minutes ago
congrats to me
General, we've had our issues in the past but as long as you respect the rules, I appreciate your continued participation because you'll help people see the light. You know though it mostly gets ignored.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 14, 08:08 PM 2016
by the way i just signed a contract for a house 45 minutes ago
I haven't posted here in a while!! But, CONGRATS!!
Simon.
Thank you simon
Extremely stressful to make a house work on long island
Property tax is a 2nd mortgage