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Title: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: denzie on Apr 26, 07:27 AM 2016
Was just checking something. ... don't forget it's in the notepad  :)

Track 20 spins.... now go for a non hit instead of a repeater.    >:D
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: denzie on Apr 26, 07:29 AM 2016
Same shizzle after spin 30  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: denzie on Apr 26, 07:55 AM 2016
Oooops bit to late to modify....
Sorry not wanna fill the board here....

But the ktf and wtf players..... did you ever saw 10 repeaters in spin 21-30 ?

Same question for spin 31-40 ?

41-50 ?

You get my point right ?
Check your sheets and maybe a little light bulb starts glowing.
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: Rolletti on Apr 26, 07:57 AM 2016
I like both ways to bet and combine it with GUT as I have learned a lot lately. :twisted:

Quote from: Gutroulette on Apr 17, 12:21 PM 2016
Nice book on GUT at
G-U-T.co

While I wait for the crossings I play "all keys of the piano", unhit, one hit, two hit as I see the development at the chart.
I use the +1 / -1 bet progression. Workes fine for me.

Cheers R.
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: denzie on Apr 26, 08:02 AM 2016
Quote from: Rolletti on Apr 26, 07:57 AM 2016
I play "all keys of the piano", unhit, one hit, two hit
I use the +1 / -1 bet progression. Workes fine for me.

Cheers R.

Yeah , totally agree  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: 777 on Apr 26, 08:08 AM 2016
Hi Denzie,

I havent been here for the last weeks, after my non stop buststreak.
Im just wondering do you still play WTF and is that your best method? reason Im asking is because you had/have such a great win rate and if its still holding up or have you experience the same as I did. That you can run for a long time with good profit but then you run in to buststreaks too often.

I have gone through allot of my sheets and yes there are more repeats on Airball than on live, but I dont have enough spins to conclude. I have also seen that the best winrate is 9/10 or 10/10 on first 10 then 3 R on spin 11-20. and suprisingly not so good results on 18 to 19 unique numbers.

I have been playing my usual neighbors numbers with ok results the last days. But Im still looking for method that gives you nice profit without big DD. KTF looks good but is impossible to play at live or airball because of too many numbers to bet. Im sorry but I dont trust RNG.
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: denzie on Apr 26, 08:22 AM 2016
Quote from: 777 on Apr 26, 08:08 AM 2016
Hi Denzie,

Im just wondering do you still play WTF and is that your best method? Yes I do but not as often as in the beginning coz I play other stuff too. And no this is not my nr 1

reason Im asking is because you had/have such a great win rate and if its still holding up or have you experience the same as I did. That you can run for a long time with good profit but then you run in to buststreaks too often.Well on rng I got the same shit. Win , win , win and then yep a bust streak. Didn't saw that live. Main reason I not play wtf as much anymore. I loved the fast rng aspect

I have gone through allot of my sheets and yes there are more repeats on Airball than on live, but I dont have enough spins to conclude. I have also seen that the best winrate is 9/10 or 10/10 on first 10 then 3 R on spin 11-20. and suprisingly not so good results on 18 to 19 unique numbers. Agreed with all

I have been playing my usual neighbors numbers with ok results the last days. But Im still looking for method that gives you nice profit without big DD. don't we all ? But neighbours isn't bad at all. Did you try "hotzone " from ignatus?


Im sorry but I dont trust RNG.uhm , the funny thing and at the same time frustrating thing ...on a rng simulation I can't seem to lose but on the casino's rng.........  >:(

Did you check spin 21-30? You got a non hit there for sure right ?
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: 777 on Apr 26, 08:41 AM 2016
Thanks for the reply:)

yes I have 7 R as the most in spin 21-30, do you play this method on airball or live? if yes isnt it stressful to bet all the numbers for every spin?

May I ask you what is your number 1 method?

Ignatius I cant say I have read it/seen it. but will have a look. my method is easy. I just play usually last 3 hit numbers with its neighbors. with +/-1 prog from spin 3. Sometimes I dont follow the 3 last hit. I just feel where I should cover... :)

Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: denzie on Apr 26, 09:07 AM 2016
Quote from: 777 on Apr 26, 08:41 AM 2016
Thanks for the reply:)

yes I have 7 R as the most in spin 21-30, do you play this method on airball or live? if yes isnt it stressful to bet all the numbers for every spin? on what spin you got the first non hit ? (21-30). Online it's bit stressful but the memory button does the job. As for airball in my casino it's easy

May I ask you what is your number 1 method?
Yes you may . But I won't answer   ;)

Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: 777 on Apr 26, 09:28 AM 2016
You may ask but I wont answer on which spin..  :)

I got it on spin 27. 6 R in a row then non hit. then 2 more R then unhit again. so it was actually 8 R on spin 21-30 little too quick before.
But when you play the non hits in 21-30 arnt you not suppose to take away the unhit number that hit. so the memory button wont help you much after a hit... or am i missing something? :)




Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: Rolletti on Apr 26, 09:29 AM 2016
Quote from: 777 on Apr 26, 08:41 AM 2016
do you play this method on airball or live? if yes isnt it stressful to bet all the numbers for every spin?

I use the clicker of :.g-u-t.co
Works with EVERY casino, airball, live, rng no matter what.
I guess the free tracker/clicker of norcosoft does the same.
link:://betselection.cc/norcosoft/gut-tracker-ew-clicker-for-european-wheel/

Cheers R.
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 09:40 AM 2016
Normy does ur free clicker work for 00 wheels
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: denzie on Apr 26, 11:25 AM 2016
so ive been checking my sheets as well with notto's .... couldnt find any with 10 repeaters...so how do we bet this?
also 98% can have a hit in spin 21-25 and another in spin 26-30( using a 5 step progression)

......any thoughts?
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: 777 on Apr 26, 01:30 PM 2016
thank you for the tip Rolletti, but I only have mac are there any clickers for Mac´s?
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 27, 05:19 AM 2016
Quote from: denzie on Apr 26, 07:55 AM 2016
Oooops bit to late to modify....
Sorry not wanna fill the board here....

But the ktf and wtf players..... did you ever saw 10 repeaters in spin 21-30 ?

Same question for spin 31-40 ?

41-50 ?

You get my point right ?
Check your sheets and maybe a little light bulb starts glowing.
Denz
Look what dropped in todays #'s. spins 31-40
look at the count 9,+4- 16,+6 and we end +1.
Oh yes KTF +51 6th spin of betting.
Priyanka still making the 50/+50, any random thoughts on why? It cant be chaotic as mumbo jumbo says, how is it chaotic just following non-hit.
Is there an arithmetic progression?
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: denzie on Apr 27, 08:45 AM 2016
Thx Notto....good to know.
Ever saw that in 21-30?  :)

If not...how would you bet here ?
A 10 step progression?
A 2x5 step progression  (one hit in 21-25 and one hit in 26-30)
Start from spin 26?
After a loss(very very rare) bet with higher units?
......
Happy to hear your thoughts
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 29, 03:19 PM 2016
Quote from: denzie on Apr 27, 08:45 AM 2016
Thx Notto....good to know.
Ever saw that in 21-30?  :)  Yes but on rng, i'll send it over to you

If not...how would you bet here ?
A 10 step progression?
A 2x5 step progression  (one hit in 21-25 and one hit in 26-30)
Start from spin 26?
After a loss(very very rare) bet with higher units?
......
Happy to hear your thoughts
Title: Re: KTF <-----> WTF
Post by: denzie on Apr 29, 04:39 PM 2016
Thx , happy to receive  :)