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Title: Hot threesomes
Post by: denzie on May 03, 07:54 AM 2016
This is based on Hotzone from Ignatus and the ktf sheets from Notto. Been playing around with hotzone lately with good results. So that in mind looking my sheets I noticed something. ...

Track 10 spins (or use the markee).  Now bet the first number and his neighbours  that repeats from those 10 (example 1 ) or after those 10(example 2). Whatever comes first.  Don't change our bet for 12 spins. Flatbet.

3         8
11      16
4        31 ----> Bet 31/14/9 for 12 spins
11                  (example 1)
36
26
31
28
7
12

Or

1         8
3         32
9         8 -----> Bet 8/30/23 for 12 spins
31                  (example 2)
14
35
29
11
6
18

Enjoy  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: TurboGenius on May 03, 08:16 AM 2016
Good name lol
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: 3Nine on May 03, 08:37 AM 2016
Well, that was disappointing...
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: denzie on May 03, 08:59 AM 2016
Quote from: TurboGenius on May 03, 08:16 AM 2016
Good name lol

:twisted:
At least that's good already
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: TurboGenius on May 03, 08:59 AM 2016
Quote from: denzie on May 03, 08:59 AM 2016
:twisted:
At least that's good already

Sure got my attention  :twisted:
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: curiosone on May 03, 01:13 PM 2016
Tested for 21 sessions looks like that  WLWWWLWLWWWLWWWLLWW0   90 units,so far so good :)
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: denzie on May 03, 01:19 PM 2016
Quote from: curiosone on May 03, 01:13 PM 2016
Tested for 21 sessions looks like that  WLWWWLWLWWWLWWWLLWW0   90 units,so far so good :)

Thx for testing. Much appreciated  :thumbsup:

I just noticed while playing ktf or wtf after track 10 spins.... most of the times a repeat comes from that first 10. So I decided to take one with 2 neighbours. So far it goes good. Of course some losses. But more profit. ..... so far
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: The General on May 03, 01:21 PM 2016
This system is step in a better direction than the KTF.
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: denzie on May 03, 01:52 PM 2016
One more thing. ..  Once we start betting and we hit on spin 1-5 then keep the same numbers. Etc.

If we hit later or not...reset
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: curiosone on May 03, 01:54 PM 2016
Good to know,so who is playing 1-4 numbers can help with some ideas?
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: curiosone on May 03, 03:41 PM 2016
Another 4 sessions 90 units,its luck its not luck we well see
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: curiosone on May 03, 03:43 PM 2016
If anyone has test it and come with any idea....its more than welcome ( sorry for my english)
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: denzie on May 03, 03:46 PM 2016
Quote from: curiosone on May 03, 03:41 PM 2016
Another 4 sessions 90 units,its luck its not luck we well see

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: Steve on May 03, 07:04 PM 2016
Yes it's resembling AP now, it would work on some wheels. It's like an undeveloped bias and dealer signature combination.
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: thelaw on May 03, 07:18 PM 2016
Quote from: Steve on May 03, 07:04 PM 2016
Yes it's resembling AP now, it would work on some wheels. It's like an undeveloped bias and dealer signature combination.

This is officially the greatest compliment I've ever seen from Steve!!! :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: Steve on May 03, 07:30 PM 2016
I'll explain why it could work.

If a dealer spun consistently (on the right wheel) and those consistent spins meant areas of the wheel repeated, and the repeats werent mere coincidence, then you may have an edge by betting on the same sector. It would be further helped if there was a bias in that sector (although a bit hard to know with so few spins).

But why limit it to hitting the same sector? Why not look at +9 pockets, -4 pockets and so on? Then you are getting into dealer signature.

And extend the bias analysis by looking at a larger sample of spins.

There's so much more than could be done. Even the most evil person around (Caleb) pointed out its a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: TurboGenius on May 03, 07:42 PM 2016
Quote from: Steve on May 03, 07:30 PM 2016But why limit it to hitting the same sector? Why not look at +9 pockets, -4 pockets and so on? Then you are getting into dealer signature.

Without knowing the release point, or what number is under the ball when it's released - you can't use dealer signature (at least not from a list of spins without seeing it with your own eyes). When a dealer is consistent they won't hit the same number(s) or their neighbors but they will more than likely hit the same sector as it corresponds to the release point number.
Using a bias wheel approach with recorded spins (like the roulette site) doesn't help much. I've plugged the spins into RX as I play and it's usually giving a bias wheel result - in order to have enough spins to know for sure, it would take more than most people can sit through and record. You could have 1,000 spins and it cans how a bias wheel when there is none. The data needed is too great.
Good "luck" (damn I really have to stop using that word) though - will see how it plays out.
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: Steve on May 03, 07:48 PM 2016
You'll find most dealers just pick up the ball and spin without delay, and in such a case the last winning number is closely related to the release point. And the actual release point isnt as relevant as you might think. Rotor orientation and time are the most important factors.
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: TurboGenius on May 03, 08:21 PM 2016
 :thumbsup:
I need to see the wheel and what the release number is or else I've never found DS reliable. But if I have that data - certainly.
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: 3Nine on May 03, 08:22 PM 2016
I wouldn't play for 12 spins.
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: Steve on May 03, 09:25 PM 2016
link:s://:.youtube.com/v/5BSXYzWAMLs
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: curiosone on May 04, 12:35 PM 2016
Hey,still testing...on thing that is weird.....testing are go with 2 casinos,live  dealer BUT,diffrents wheels,one is from wood i thing the other from iron and plastic don t know( but bounce like a yoyo) :)))) wood whelle more acuratte...ideas?
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: Celticknits on May 05, 10:03 AM 2016
Quote from: The General on May 03, 01:21 PM 2016
This system is step in a better direction than the KTF.

-General

You seem to be obsessed with running down KTF and yet it continues to win.

In another thread that you started (Unhit Numbers, KTF, And Other Bad Bets) -again a KTF mention - you stated right in your first post the following

"5. Ignatus has recently come up with some clever quick play methods that chase hot numbers.  Most of his hot number methods are vastly superior to the unhit number systems like the KTF." --- And again the reference to KTF

I posted a genuine request, several days ago, on that thread and asked for your guidance as to the name(s) of these so I could test it/them.
My plan was to try one of these systems and see how it does over a 60 spin cycle compared to KTF.
I expected to get at least one reply from you to play with but you completely ignored my request.

Would you like to give me that name now?

-Celtic
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: tuddilue on May 05, 11:16 AM 2016
Quote from: Celticknits on May 05, 10:03 AM 2016
-General

You seem to be obsessed with running down KTF and yet it continues to win.

In another thread that you started (Unhit Numbers, KTF, And Other Bad Bets) -again a KTF mention - you stated right in your first post the following

"5. Ignatus has recently come up with some clever quick play methods that chase hot numbers.  Most of his hot number methods are vastly superior to the unhit number systems like the KTF." --- And again the reference to KTF

I posted a genuine request, several days ago, on that thread and asked for your guidance as to the name(s) of these so I could test it/them.
My plan was to try one of these systems and see how it does over a 60 spin cycle compared to KTF.
I expected to get at least one reply from you to play with but you completely ignored my request.

Would you like to give me that name now?

-Celtic
I have also asked him questions before but he refuses to answers. I do not know why?
The name you are looking for are Hotzone and here is the link:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16834

-Tuddilue
Title: Re: Hot threesomes
Post by: Celticknits on May 05, 11:53 AM 2016
Quote from: tuddilue on May 05, 11:16 AM 2016
I have also asked him questions before but he refuses to answers. I do not know why?
The name you are looking for are Hotzone and here is the link:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16834

-Tuddilue

-Tuddilue

Thank you.

-Celtic